Candi's Reviews > Doc
Doc
by
by
"To sell newspapers, the journalists of his day embellished slim fact with fat rumor and rank fiction; it was they who invented the iconic frontier gambler and gunman Doc Holliday. (Thin. Mustachioed. A cold and casual killer. Doomed, and always dressed in black, as though for his own funeral.)"
I have a lot of respect for an author that tries to set the facts straight, and that is exactly what Mary Doria Russell did here with this piece of interesting historical fiction. There are a myriad of wild stories and legends surrounding Dr. John Henry Holliday, otherwise known as Doc Holliday. According to Russell in the author’s note: "Arriving at the end of historical fiction today, the modern reader is likely to wonder, ‘How much of that was real?’ In this case, the answer is: not all of it but a lot more than you might think." This book briefly introduces us to Doc as a young boy, the educated son of an affluent Georgia planter who later studies dentistry, a ‘respectable profession for a gentleman.’ The main focus of this novel, however, is the time Doc spent in Dodge City, Kansas, the years prior to those legendary events in Tombstone, Arizona. We also meet the famed Earp brothers as well as Mária Katarina Harony, simply called Kate, or Big Nose Kate (behind her back, of course.) Raised in the imperial court of Mexico and well-versed in several languages, Kate was forced to flee to the United States for political reasons. Her life then turned in a downward spiral, forcing her into the one profession that allowed her to remain standing on her own two feet – prostitution. In Dodge City, Doc will set up a dentistry practice by day and play cards by night. Much of his drinking, I learned, was attributed to his tuberculosis. Bourbon was a means of quieting a cough and dulling the pain. There is also a mystery surrounding the death of a mixed race boy named Johnnie Sanders. This intrigued me, but unfortunately seemed to get lost in the many other threads within this book, resurfacing only on occasion as a reminder that the case was still not solved.
I am a huge fan of Mary Doria Russell – I adored her science fiction novels, The Sparrow and Children of God. As a result, I had very high expectations for this book. While I did come away from this one feeling like I had learned a lot more and cleared up many of my pre-conceived notions of Doc, I did not find myself fully engaged. Why that is, I am not completely sure… I’m just going to ramble a bit about that as I think and write. I certainly enjoy an excellent western from time to time – maybe I set the bar too high when I think of my all-time favorite, Lonesome Dove. I know it’s not fair to compare with THAT western, but I admit that I can’t get it out of my head when reading in this genre. There were a lot of characters in this book, and Russell does a very good job of developing them, but I didn’t necessarily care too deeply about any of them. Nor did I dislike any of them. In reading a western, I typically get wrapped up in the grand, sweeping landscapes. Not so here. I think perhaps I spent too long inside the saloons and gambling rooms this time around. I’m not much of a card player, gambling does not interest me; therefore I was a bit bored during what should have felt like the more tense and exciting poker and faro scenes. I wanted to ride horses, shoot guns, and have even more run-ins with the law! Okay, I admit the ending was rather exciting and did leave me satisfied!
I am definitely an outlier here. So, please read more reviews and decide for yourself if this is a book for you or not! Personally, this one gets 3.5 ‘interesting but not hugely compelling’ stars.
I have a lot of respect for an author that tries to set the facts straight, and that is exactly what Mary Doria Russell did here with this piece of interesting historical fiction. There are a myriad of wild stories and legends surrounding Dr. John Henry Holliday, otherwise known as Doc Holliday. According to Russell in the author’s note: "Arriving at the end of historical fiction today, the modern reader is likely to wonder, ‘How much of that was real?’ In this case, the answer is: not all of it but a lot more than you might think." This book briefly introduces us to Doc as a young boy, the educated son of an affluent Georgia planter who later studies dentistry, a ‘respectable profession for a gentleman.’ The main focus of this novel, however, is the time Doc spent in Dodge City, Kansas, the years prior to those legendary events in Tombstone, Arizona. We also meet the famed Earp brothers as well as Mária Katarina Harony, simply called Kate, or Big Nose Kate (behind her back, of course.) Raised in the imperial court of Mexico and well-versed in several languages, Kate was forced to flee to the United States for political reasons. Her life then turned in a downward spiral, forcing her into the one profession that allowed her to remain standing on her own two feet – prostitution. In Dodge City, Doc will set up a dentistry practice by day and play cards by night. Much of his drinking, I learned, was attributed to his tuberculosis. Bourbon was a means of quieting a cough and dulling the pain. There is also a mystery surrounding the death of a mixed race boy named Johnnie Sanders. This intrigued me, but unfortunately seemed to get lost in the many other threads within this book, resurfacing only on occasion as a reminder that the case was still not solved.
I am a huge fan of Mary Doria Russell – I adored her science fiction novels, The Sparrow and Children of God. As a result, I had very high expectations for this book. While I did come away from this one feeling like I had learned a lot more and cleared up many of my pre-conceived notions of Doc, I did not find myself fully engaged. Why that is, I am not completely sure… I’m just going to ramble a bit about that as I think and write. I certainly enjoy an excellent western from time to time – maybe I set the bar too high when I think of my all-time favorite, Lonesome Dove. I know it’s not fair to compare with THAT western, but I admit that I can’t get it out of my head when reading in this genre. There were a lot of characters in this book, and Russell does a very good job of developing them, but I didn’t necessarily care too deeply about any of them. Nor did I dislike any of them. In reading a western, I typically get wrapped up in the grand, sweeping landscapes. Not so here. I think perhaps I spent too long inside the saloons and gambling rooms this time around. I’m not much of a card player, gambling does not interest me; therefore I was a bit bored during what should have felt like the more tense and exciting poker and faro scenes. I wanted to ride horses, shoot guns, and have even more run-ins with the law! Okay, I admit the ending was rather exciting and did leave me satisfied!
I am definitely an outlier here. So, please read more reviews and decide for yourself if this is a book for you or not! Personally, this one gets 3.5 ‘interesting but not hugely compelling’ stars.
Sign into Goodreads to see if any of your friends have read
Doc.
Sign In »
Reading Progress
July 13, 2018
– Shelved
July 13, 2018
– Shelved as:
to-read
July 13, 2018
– Shelved as:
historical-fiction
July 13, 2018
– Shelved as:
westerns
September 6, 2018
–
Started Reading
September 20, 2018
–
Finished Reading
Comments Showing 1-43 of 43 (43 new)
date
newest »
message 1:
by
Cheri
(new)
-
added it
Sep 22, 2018 04:00PM
Looking forward to your thoughts on this one, Candi!
reply
|
flag
Cheri, it wasn't as good as Russell's Sparrow books, in my opinion. I'll write a review, but sadly I'm an outlier on this one!
Thanks for the review, and by the way, I felt almost exactly as you did about this book. Parts were interesting, but ultimately I was not engaged.
I have picked this up and started it several times, Candi, and then laid it aside for later. I almost sensed it wasn't going to be the wonder for me that the Sparrow books were. I will still read it, but now I don't feel I am in any hurry. I have Epitaph as well, which seems to garner higher regard.
Thanks for the honest review.
Thanks for the honest review.
Great review Candi. I also liked the way Russell tried to set the facts straight and I never fully engaged with the story. But I am glad I read it.
Excellent review, Candi! Although I loved it more than you did, I can completely appreciate the thoughts you shared on where you and this story kind of parted ways - each of you on opposite banks of the river - within sight, but not involved with each other. :)
Cathrine ☯️ wrote: "Great review Candi. I'm soon to be reading this."
Thanks, Cathrine! I hope it's a good one for you!
Thanks, Cathrine! I hope it's a good one for you!
Numidica wrote: "Thanks for the review, and by the way, I felt almost exactly as you did about this book. Parts were interesting, but ultimately I was not engaged."
Thank you, Numidica. I'm glad to hear I'm not alone with my thoughts on this one. Russell is a great writer, so I was hoping to love it.
Thank you, Numidica. I'm glad to hear I'm not alone with my thoughts on this one. Russell is a great writer, so I was hoping to love it.
Melanie wrote: "Nice review Candi. I have this and it's sequel to read at some point."
Thanks, Melanie! I look forward to hearing what you think of both books :)
Thanks, Melanie! I look forward to hearing what you think of both books :)
Sara wrote: "I have picked this up and started it several times, Candi, and then laid it aside for later. I almost sensed it wasn't going to be the wonder for me that the Sparrow books were. I will still read i..."
Sara, I think perhaps we were spoiled by the Sparrow books. I mean, there was just something really special about those books, Maybe I would have liked this more if I read it before the others. But who knows?! I'd be curious to hear what you think if you ever get back to it.
Sara, I think perhaps we were spoiled by the Sparrow books. I mean, there was just something really special about those books, Maybe I would have liked this more if I read it before the others. But who knows?! I'd be curious to hear what you think if you ever get back to it.
Rita wrote: "I thought your review was very well thought out and honest. I too loved The Sparrow and Children of God. I am not a big fan of westerns. I don't think that this book would be my thing."
Thanks so much, Rita. You would likely find yourself in the same situation with this one then. The history is interesting but something was lacking in the overall pull of the story.
Thanks so much, Rita. You would likely find yourself in the same situation with this one then. The history is interesting but something was lacking in the overall pull of the story.
Debra wrote: "Great review Candi. I also liked the way Russell tried to set the facts straight and I never fully engaged with the story. But I am glad I read it."
Thank you, Debra. Russell certainly does her research, and that is always commendable. Sorry it didn't grab you fully either.
Thank you, Debra. Russell certainly does her research, and that is always commendable. Sorry it didn't grab you fully either.
Jaline wrote: "Excellent review, Candi! Although I loved it more than you did, I can completely appreciate the thoughts you shared on where you and this story kind of parted ways - each of you on opposite banks o..."
Thanks very much, Jaline! I love it when we can agree fully on shared books, but I equally appreciate your views when we differ! It's always interesting to see what appeals to some and not others. I like the way you describe my parting of the ways with this one - you nailed it!
Thanks very much, Jaline! I love it when we can agree fully on shared books, but I equally appreciate your views when we differ! It's always interesting to see what appeals to some and not others. I like the way you describe my parting of the ways with this one - you nailed it!
Aw, sorry this did not match up to the other two you loved! I have this one and “The Sparrow.” If I could just quit ordering and requesting new books......
Great review, Candi!
Great review, Candi!
As one who has read much about Doc, and I have much interest in Doc Holliday, I too found this one lacking and I put in down mid-way through. I found The Southern Son Saga by Victoria Wilcox to be much better books on Doc. And thoroughly researched.
This one didn’t engage me much either. I was disappointed as I have an interest in these historical figures.
I still have not read Russell yet , but I think I’ll start with the others that you like more . Thanks, Candi as always for a thoughtful review,
I'm sorry that I missed this book report, Candi. It's one of your best! I am looking forward to Mary Doria Russell and have Doc on my reading docket. I get a lot of value from your reviews but this one in particular was very helpful. I'm a fan of Larry McMurtry and obviously, Lonesome Dove casts a long shadow when I read a western. I probably disliked The Sisters Brothers for much that reason.
Candi wrote: "I wanted to ride horses, shoot guns, and have even more run-ins with the law!"
I have a television program for you.
Candi wrote: "I wanted to ride horses, shoot guns, and have even more run-ins with the law!"
I have a television program for you.
Hi Candi, I read only one book (A Thread of Grace) by Russell and liked it. Pity this book wasn’t as satisfying for you. Sometimes the ‘places’ we’re made to spend time in within a novel decide our level of engagement. But I love knowing you prefer riding horses, shooting guns(!) and being a rebel! Yay! 😊
Fab review, Candi.
Loosely related, I'm not a fan of Val Kilmer's acting, but his portrayal of Doc Holliday in Tombstone was terrific!
Loosely related, I'm not a fan of Val Kilmer's acting, but his portrayal of Doc Holliday in Tombstone was terrific!
Dianne wrote: "Aw, sorry this did not match up to the other two you loved! I have this one and “The Sparrow.” If I could just quit ordering and requesting new books......
Great review, Candi!"
Thanks, Diane! Oh, you just have to squeeze The Sparrow in one of these days! I would love to hear what you think of it. I was enamored with it :)
Great review, Candi!"
Thanks, Diane! Oh, you just have to squeeze The Sparrow in one of these days! I would love to hear what you think of it. I was enamored with it :)
Carole wrote: "As one who has read much about Doc, and I have much interest in Doc Holliday, I too found this one lacking and I put in down mid-way through. I found The Southern Son Saga by Victoria Wilcox to be ..."
Carole, I'm relieved you felt similarly. I think Doc was a truly fascinating man, and I would love to read more about him. I thank you for the recommendation of the Wilcox book; I'm going to check it out sometime :)
Carole, I'm relieved you felt similarly. I think Doc was a truly fascinating man, and I would love to read more about him. I thank you for the recommendation of the Wilcox book; I'm going to check it out sometime :)
Elizabeth☮ wrote: "This one didn’t engage me much either. I was disappointed as I have an interest in these historical figures."
I'm sorry it didn't pan out for you either, Elizabeth. It seems it could have been so much more engaging, given such dynamic figures!
I'm sorry it didn't pan out for you either, Elizabeth. It seems it could have been so much more engaging, given such dynamic figures!
Angela M wrote: "I still have not read Russell yet , but I think I’ll start with the others that you like more . Thanks, Candi as always for a thoughtful review,"
Thank you, Angela. I think you would enjoy Russell and I would not hesitate to recommend The Sparrow to you. The fictional characters in that book came alive for me so much more than these which were based on real people. I hear her novel A Thread of Grace is wonderful as well.
Thank you, Angela. I think you would enjoy Russell and I would not hesitate to recommend The Sparrow to you. The fictional characters in that book came alive for me so much more than these which were based on real people. I hear her novel A Thread of Grace is wonderful as well.
Joe wrote: "I'm sorry that I missed this book report, Candi. It's one of your best! I am looking forward to Mary Doria Russell and have Doc on my reading docket. I get a lot of value from your reviews but this..."
Well, thank you very much, Joe! You made my morning :) You know, I would love for you to grab this book sometime so that I could read your thoughts on it - especially coming from another big fan of Lonesome Dove. I have a copy of The Sisters Brothers, but have been hesitant to dig it out of the pile. Now, this program Westworld - how do I not know about this one?! I just watched the trailer twice and it's now on my watchlist - thanks!
Well, thank you very much, Joe! You made my morning :) You know, I would love for you to grab this book sometime so that I could read your thoughts on it - especially coming from another big fan of Lonesome Dove. I have a copy of The Sisters Brothers, but have been hesitant to dig it out of the pile. Now, this program Westworld - how do I not know about this one?! I just watched the trailer twice and it's now on my watchlist - thanks!
Laysee wrote: "Hi Candi, I read only one book (A Thread of Grace) by Russell and liked it. Pity this book wasn’t as satisfying for you. Sometimes the ‘places’ we’re made to spend time in within a novel decide our..."
Laysee, my secret desire to be a wild cowgirl has been revealed, lol! This yearning began in my early 20s and only occasionally resurfaces - especially while reading or watching western movies ;0 I plan to read A Thread of Grace - have heard this one is quite good. Thanks for your fun comment :)
Laysee, my secret desire to be a wild cowgirl has been revealed, lol! This yearning began in my early 20s and only occasionally resurfaces - especially while reading or watching western movies ;0 I plan to read A Thread of Grace - have heard this one is quite good. Thanks for your fun comment :)
Kevin wrote: "Fab review, Candi.
Loosely related, I'm not a fan of Val Kilmer's acting, but his portrayal of Doc Holliday in Tombstone was terrific!"
Thanks, Kevin! I am not much of a Kilmer fan myself, but I have been told by others that he is perfect in that role! I have to admit to only seeing segments of that film... perhaps it's time to sit down and really watch it straight through :)
Loosely related, I'm not a fan of Val Kilmer's acting, but his portrayal of Doc Holliday in Tombstone was terrific!"
Thanks, Kevin! I am not much of a Kilmer fan myself, but I have been told by others that he is perfect in that role! I have to admit to only seeing segments of that film... perhaps it's time to sit down and really watch it straight through :)
Karen wrote: "Excellent review, Candi! Sorry this one was not as enjoyable. On to the next one."
Thanks so much, Karen! Yes, moving right along! I just finished a 5-star book - Provinces of Night - and am quite satisfied :)
Thanks so much, Karen! Yes, moving right along! I just finished a 5-star book - Provinces of Night - and am quite satisfied :)
Candi wrote: " perhaps it's time to sit down and really watch it straight through :) ..."
Please do, Candi. It's a great movie! : )
Please do, Candi. It's a great movie! : )
A very good summary of the story and style - I think - covering a range of interesting details - drinking to calm the cough, and pain of TB; and your own personal preferences for grand landscapes, and gun-slinging - v. nice.
Brilliant review, Candi. I've got book 2 of The Sparrow to read soon and really looking forward to it!
Laura wrote: "A very good summary of the story and style - I think - covering a range of interesting details - drinking to calm the cough, and pain of TB; and your own personal preferences for grand landscapes, ..."
Thanks so much, Laura. I'm glad it provided a good overview of the story as well as the feel of the novel. I appreciate your kind comment :)
Thanks so much, Laura. I'm glad it provided a good overview of the story as well as the feel of the novel. I appreciate your kind comment :)
Katie wrote: "Brilliant review, Candi. I've got book 2 of The Sparrow to read soon and really looking forward to it!"
Thank you, Katie! I'm really excited to hear you'll be reading the second Sparrow book soon! I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on it :)
Thank you, Katie! I'm really excited to hear you'll be reading the second Sparrow book soon! I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on it :)
Elizabeth☮ wrote: "Tombstone is a great movie. I love it!"
Great, Elizabeth! I'm looking forward to it :)
Great, Elizabeth! I'm looking forward to it :)
Candi,
Joe expressed my feelings well when he wrote that this is one of your best reviews. I totally agree, and it's ironic that it's for a 3 star review.
I have been hoping that this would be the Mary Doria Russell novel that shifted my thoughts on her writing, as I was not a fan of The Sparrow. But, since you love The Sparrow and I didn't, maybe I'd like this one more than you? Who knows.
It's really challenging. . . to like any Western as much as Lonesome Dove. Thus far, it's been impossible for me.
Joe expressed my feelings well when he wrote that this is one of your best reviews. I totally agree, and it's ironic that it's for a 3 star review.
I have been hoping that this would be the Mary Doria Russell novel that shifted my thoughts on her writing, as I was not a fan of The Sparrow. But, since you love The Sparrow and I didn't, maybe I'd like this one more than you? Who knows.
It's really challenging. . . to like any Western as much as Lonesome Dove. Thus far, it's been impossible for me.
Julie wrote: "Candi,
Joe expressed my feelings well when he wrote that this is one of your best reviews. I totally agree, and it's ironic that it's for a 3 star review.
I have been hoping that this would be the ..."
Julie, you and Joe are too kind! Maybe I need to read and review more 3 star books! I wouldn't tell you NOT to read this book, but at the same time I would be surprised if you ended up loving it. It sure would be fun if you did though! I'd be first in line waiting for your review :)
Joe expressed my feelings well when he wrote that this is one of your best reviews. I totally agree, and it's ironic that it's for a 3 star review.
I have been hoping that this would be the ..."
Julie, you and Joe are too kind! Maybe I need to read and review more 3 star books! I wouldn't tell you NOT to read this book, but at the same time I would be surprised if you ended up loving it. It sure would be fun if you did though! I'd be first in line waiting for your review :)
I agree with Julie and Joe- this is a thoughtful and beautifully-written review, Candi! I still need to read this author, and I will definitely start with Sparrow!
Jennifer ~ TarHeelReader wrote: "I agree with Julie and Joe- this is a thoughtful and beautifully-written review, Candi! I still need to read this author, and I will definitely start with Sparrow!"
Thanks so much, Jennifer! And here I started this review not sure what the heck I was going to say, lol! I'm a bit biased, but I would say definitely start with The Sparrow! :)
Thanks so much, Jennifer! And here I started this review not sure what the heck I was going to say, lol! I'm a bit biased, but I would say definitely start with The Sparrow! :)