Wikipedia:SHEIC
Dit is een overlegruimte voor mensen die op de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia tijd willen besteden aan informatica, automatisering, andere technische zaken van de wiki (zoals sjablonen) en verwante onderwerpen. Dit is tevens een centrale plaats ter bespreking en afstemming van artikelen, categorieën, portalen, lijsten en andere zaken met betrekking tot informatica, automatisering en wat dies meer zij. Let op dat er een zekere overlap is met de Helpdesk, stel voor dringende zaken je vraag ook daar.
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Verwijzingen naar sjabloonpagina's
[bewerken | brontekst bewerken]De Navbar-module geeft de mogelijkheid om vanaf een sjabloon te linken naar de sjabloonpagina zelf (Bekijk, Overleg, Wijzig); zie bv deze zijbalk. Op de Engelse wikipedia is het vrij gangbaar voor sidebars die in de hoofdnaamruimte staan, maar in de Nederlandse wikipedia is het niet gebruikelijk om naar sjablonen te verwijzen in artikelen. Althans, ik zie het eigenlijk nooit ergens. Misschien kunnen we de Module aanpassen zodat deze verwijzingen niet langer mogelijk zijn. TheBartgry (overleg) 7 jan 2025 19:55 (CET)
- Volgens mij is dergelijke functionaliteit juist recent toegevoegd aan veel sjablonen, met name navigatiebalken, om het onderhoud te vergemakkelijken.
- Is er iets specifieks aan zijbalken waarom dit uitgesloten zou moeten worden?
- Eventueel kunnen die koppelingen verborgen worden voor niet-autobevestigde gebruikers →bertux 7 jan 2025 21:05 (CET)
- Ah, dat het recentelijk is toegevoegd aan nav's wist ik niet! Ikzelf vind het helemaal geen slecht idee om die verwijzingen te hebben. Maar ik kreeg de indruk dat het ongewenst was, het werd bijvoorbeeld hier ongedaan gemaakt (tijdje geleden weliswaar en in andere context, maar meer qua principe). Als het inderdaad nu gangbaar wordt, vooral laten staan. TheBartgry (overleg) 7 jan 2025 21:32 (CET)
- Het is in 2023 na overleg toegevoegd aan alle navigatiesjablonen door middel van Sjabloon:Bewerklinks. Belangrijk kenmerk is daarbij wel dat de links niet zichtbaar zijn voor anoniemen, zodat het risico op vandalistische acties (en daardoor meteen vele pagina's te zien is) beperkt blijft. In navigatiesjablonen kon dit eenvoudig toegevoegd worden, omdat er slechts 2 generieke basissjablonen zijn. Voor zijbalken is dat niet het geval, er zijn in mijn ogen te veel niet-noodzakelijke sjablonen/modules in gebruik in zijbalken, zo wordt ook in de zijbalk die je linkt weer een onderhuids sjabloon gebruikt dat op nl-wiki totaal niet gangbaar is. Daardoor is het niet eenvoudig om dit in zijbalken toe te voegen. En nee, die bewerklinks dienen niet in die module ingebouwd te worden, want niet ieder sjabloon heeft zichtbaar in een artikel bewerklinks nodig. Maar het simpelweg linken naar een sjabloon vanuit een artikel is nooit de bedoeling.
- Off-topic: deze zijbalk is geheel overbodig: navigatielinks staan al onderaan, formules van andere rekenkundige bewerkingen hebben geen relevantie voor een individueel artikel. Romaine (overleg) 7 jan 2025 21:33 (CET)
- Ah, dat het recentelijk is toegevoegd aan nav's wist ik niet! Ikzelf vind het helemaal geen slecht idee om die verwijzingen te hebben. Maar ik kreeg de indruk dat het ongewenst was, het werd bijvoorbeeld hier ongedaan gemaakt (tijdje geleden weliswaar en in andere context, maar meer qua principe). Als het inderdaad nu gangbaar wordt, vooral laten staan. TheBartgry (overleg) 7 jan 2025 21:32 (CET)
- De knoppen op navigatiesjablonen zijn in 2023 toegevoegd om de vrije bewerkbaarheid van de wiki (een van onze 5 zuilen) te benadrukken en te bevorderen. Om dat voor elkaar te krijgen was inderdaad zorgvuldig tactisch overleg nodig omdat er anders gegarandeerd iemand dwars gaat liggen.
- Als je knoppen toevoegt dan zou het mijn voorkeur hebben dat middels {{Bewerklinks}} te doen. Verschillende probleempjes die niet meteen voor de hand liggen zijn daarin al verholpen, en het zorgt voor een consistente uitstraling. Wellicht helpt Wikipedia:De kroeg/Archief/20230601#Evaluatie bewerk-knoppen op navigatiesjablonen om (een klein beetje) een beeld te krijgen van hoe over de knoppen wordt gedacht: ik zou zeggen overwegend positief. Frank Geerlings (overleg) 25 jan 2025 17:03 (CET)
Tech News: 2025-03
[bewerken | brontekst bewerken]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- The Single User Login system is being updated over the next few months. This is the system which allows users to fill out the login form on one Wikimedia site and get logged in on all others at the same time. It needs to be updated because of the ways that browsers are increasingly restricting cross-domain cookies. To accommodate these restrictions, login and account creation pages will move to a central domain, but it will still appear to the user as if they are on the originating wiki. The updated code will be enabled this week for users on test wikis. This change is planned to roll out to all users during February and March. See the SUL3 project page for more details and a timeline.
Updates for editors
- On wikis with PageAssessments installed, you can now filter search results to pages in a given WikiProject by using the
inproject:
keyword. (These wikis: Arabic Wikipedia, English Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage, French Wikipedia, Hungarian Wikipedia, Nepali Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia) [1] - One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Tigre (
w:tig:
) [2] View all 35 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, there was a bug with updating a user's edit-count after making a rollback edit, which is now fixed. [3]
Updates for technical contributors
Wikimedia REST API users, such as bot operators and tool maintainers, may be affected by ongoing upgrades. Starting the week of January 13, we will begin rerouting some page content endpoints from RESTbase to the newer MediaWiki REST API endpoints for all wiki projects. This change was previously available on testwiki and should not affect existing functionality, but active users of the impacted endpoints may raise issues directly to the MediaWiki Interfaces Team in Phabricator if they arise.
- Toolforge tool maintainers can now share their feedback on Toolforge UI, an initiative to provide a web platform that allows creating and managing Toolforge tools through a graphic interface, in addition to existing command-line workflows. This project aims to streamline active maintainers’ tasks, as well as make registration and deployment processes more accessible for new tool creators. The initiative is still at a very early stage, and the Cloud Services team is in the process of collecting feedback from the Toolforge community to help shape the solution to their needs. Read more and share your thoughts about Toolforge UI.
For tool and library developers who use the OAuth system: The identity endpoint used for OAuth 1 and OAuth 2 returned a JSON object with an integer in its
sub
field, which was incorrect (the field must always be a string). This has been fixed; the fix will be deployed to Wikimedia wikis on the week of January 13. [4]- Many wikis currently use Cite CSS to render custom footnote markers in Parsoid output. Starting January 20 these rules will be disabled, but the developers ask you to not clean up your MediaWiki:Common.css until February 20 to avoid issues during the migration. Your wikis might experience some small changes to footnote markers in Visual Editor and when using experimental Parsoid read mode, but if there are changes these are expected to bring the rendering in line with the legacy parser output. [5]
Meetings and events
- The next meeting in the series of Wikimedia Foundation Community Conversations with the Wikimedia Commons community will take place on January 15 at 8:00 UTC and at 16:00 UTC. The topic of this call is defining the priorities in tool investment for Commons. Contributors from all wikis, especially users who are maintaining tools for Commons, are welcome to attend.
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Tech News: 2025-04
[bewerken | brontekst bewerken]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- Administrators can mass-delete multiple pages created by a user or IP address using Extension:Nuke. It previously only allowed deletion of pages created in the last 30 days. It can now delete pages from the last 90 days, provided it is targeting a specific user or IP address. [6]
- On wikis that use the Patrolled edits feature, when the rollback feature is used to revert an unpatrolled page revision, that revision will now be marked as "manually patrolled" instead of "autopatrolled", which is more accurate. Some editors that use filters on Recent Changes may need to update their filter settings. [7]
View all 31 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the Visual Editor's "Insert link" feature did not always suggest existing pages properly when an editor started typing, which has now been fixed.
Updates for technical contributors
- The Structured Discussion extension (also known as Flow) is being progressively removed from the wikis. This extension is unmaintained and causes issues. It will be replaced by DiscussionTools, which is used on any regular talk page. The last group of wikis (Catalan Wikiquote, Wikimedia Finland, Goan Konkani Wikipedia, Kabyle Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikibooks, Wikimedia Sweden) will soon be contacted. If you have questions about this process, please ping Trizek (WMF) at your wiki. [8]
- The latest quarterly Technical Community Newsletter is now available. This edition includes: updates about services from the Data Platform Engineering teams, information about Codex from the Design System team, and more.
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Tech News: 2025-05
[bewerken | brontekst bewerken]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- Patrollers and admins - what information or context about edits or users could help you to make patroller or admin decisions more quickly or easily? The Wikimedia Foundation wants to hear from you to help guide its upcoming annual plan. Please consider sharing your thoughts on this and 13 other questions to shape the technical direction for next year.
Updates for editors
- iOS Wikipedia App users worldwide can now access a personalized Year in Review feature, which provides insights based on their reading and editing history on Wikipedia. This project is part of a broader effort to help welcome new readers as they discover and interact with encyclopedic content.
Edit patrollers now have a new feature available that can highlight potentially problematic new pages. When a page is created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted, a tag ('Recreated') will now be added, which users can filter for in Speciaal:RecenteWijzigingen and Speciaal:NieuwePaginas. [9]
- Later this week, there will be a new warning for editors if they attempt to create a redirect that links to another redirect (a double redirect). The feature will recommend that they link directly to the second redirect's target page. Thanks to the user SomeRandomDeveloper for this improvement. [10]
Wikimedia wikis allow WebAuthn-based second factor checks (such as hardware tokens) during login, but the feature is fragile and has very few users. The MediaWiki Platform team is temporarily disabling adding new WebAuthn keys, to avoid interfering with the rollout of SUL3 (single user login version 3). Existing keys are unaffected. [11]
View all 30 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- For developers that use the MediaWiki History dumps: The Data Platform Engineering team has added a couple of new fields to these dumps, to support the Temporary Accounts initiative. If you maintain software that reads those dumps, please review your code and the updated documentation, since the order of the fields in the row will change. There will also be one field rename: in the
mediawiki_user_history
dump, theanonymous
field will be renamed tois_anonymous
. The changes will take effect with the next release of the dumps in February. [12]
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Tech News: 2025-06
[bewerken | brontekst bewerken]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- Editors who use the "Special characters" editing-toolbar menu can now see the 32 special characters you have used most recently, across editing sessions on that wiki. This change should help make it easier to find the characters you use most often. The feature is in both the 2010 wikitext editor and VisualEditor. [13]
- Editors using the 2010 wikitext editor can now create sublists with correct indentation by selecting the line(s) you want to indent and then clicking the toolbar buttons.[14] You can now also insert
<code>
tags using a new toolbar button.[15] Thanks to user stjn for these improvements. - Help is needed to ensure the citation generator works properly on each wiki.
- (1) Administrators should update the local versions of the page
MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json
to include entries forpreprint
,standard
, anddataset
; Here are example diffs to replicate for 'preprint' and for 'standard' and 'dataset'. - (2.1) If the citoid map in the citation template used for these types of references is missing, one will need to be added. (2.2) If the citoid map does exist, the TemplateData will need to be updated to include new field names. Here are example updates for 'preprint' and for 'standard' and 'dataset'. The new fields that may need to be supported are
archiveID
,identifier
,repository
,organization
,repositoryLocation
,committee
, andversionNumber
. [16]
- (1) Administrators should update the local versions of the page
- One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Central Kanuri (
w:knc:
) [17] View all 27 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the OCR (optical character recognition) tool used for Wikisource now supports a new language, Church Slavonic. [18]
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Tech News: 2025-07
[bewerken | brontekst bewerken]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- The Product and Technology Advisory Council (PTAC) has published a draft of their recommendations for the Wikimedia Foundation's Product and Technology department. They have recommended focusing on mobile experiences, particularly contributions. They request community feedback at the talk page by 21 February.
Updates for editors
- The "Special pages" portlet link will be moved from the "Toolbox" into the "Navigation" section of the main menu's sidebar by default. This change is because the Toolbox is intended for tools relating to the current page, not tools relating to the site, so the link will be more logically and consistently located. To modify this behavior and update CSS styling, administrators can follow the instructions at T385346. [19]
- As part of this year's work around improving the ways readers discover content on the wikis, the Web team will be running an experiment with a small number of readers that displays some suggestions for related or interesting articles within the search bar. Please check out the project page for more information.
Template editors who use TemplateStyles can now customize output for users with specific accessibility needs by using accessibility related media queries (
prefers-reduced-motion
,prefers-reduced-transparency
,prefers-contrast
, andforced-colors
). Thanks to user Bawolff for these improvements. [20]View all 22 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the global blocks log will now be shown directly on the Speciaal:CentraalAanmelden page, similarly to global locks, to simplify the workflows for stewards. [21]
Updates for technical contributors
- Wikidata now supports a special language as a "default for all languages" for labels and aliases. This is to avoid excessive duplication of the same information across many languages. If your Wikidata queries use labels, you may need to update them as some existing labels are getting removed. [22]
- The function
getDescription
was invoked on every Wiki page read and accounts for ~2.5% of a page's total load time. The calculated value will now be cached, reducing load on Wikimedia servers. [23] - As part of the RESTBase deprecation effort, the
/page/related
endpoint has been blocked as of February 6, 2025, and will be removed soon. This timeline was chosen to align with the deprecation schedules for older Android and iOS versions. The stable alternative is the "morelike
" action API in MediaWiki, and a migration example is available. The MediaWiki Interfaces team can be contacted for any questions. [24]
In depth
- The latest quarterly Language and Internationalization newsletter is available. It includes: Updates about the "Contribute" menu; details on some of the newest language editions of Wikipedia; details on new languages supported by the MediaWiki interface; updates on the Community-defined lists feature; and more.
- The latest Chart Project newsletter is available. It includes updates on the progress towards bringing better visibility into global charts usage and support for categorizing pages in the Data namespace on Commons.
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[bewerken | brontekst bewerken]Deze link naar Petscan werkt nu niet en vorige week ook niet. Weet iemand wat er aan de hand is? Ymnes (overleg) 15 feb 2025 17:34 (CET)
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Tech News: 2025-08
[bewerken | brontekst bewerken]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- Communities using growth tools can now showcase one event on the
Speciaal:Thuispagina
for newcomers. This feature will help newcomers to be informed about editing activities they can participate in. Administrators can create a new event to showcase atSpeciaal:CommunityConfiguration
. To learn more about this feature, please read the Diff post, have a look at the documentation, or contact the Growth team.
Updates for editors

- Starting next week, talk pages at these wikis – Spanish Wikipedia, French Wikipedia, Italian Wikipedia, Japanese Wikipedia – will get a new design. This change was extensively tested as a Beta feature and is the last step of talk pages improvements. [25]
- You can now navigate to view a redirect page directly from its action pages, such as the history page. Previously, you were forced to first go to the redirect target. This change should help editors who work with redirects a lot. Thanks to user stjn for this improvement. [26]
- When a Cite reference is reused many times, wikis currently show either numbers like "1.23" or localized alphabetic markers like "a b c" in the reference list. Previously, if there were so many reuses that the alphabetic markers were all used, an error message was displayed. As part of the work to modernize Cite customization, these errors will no longer be shown and instead the backlinks will fall back to showing numeric markers like "1.23" once the alphabetic markers are all used.
- The log entries for each change to an editor's user-groups are now clearer by specifying exactly what has changed, instead of the plain before and after listings. Translators can help to update the localized versions. Thanks to user Msz2001 for these improvements.
- A new filter has been added to the Speciaal:MassaalVerwijderen tool, which allows administrators to mass delete pages, to enable users to filter for pages in a range of page sizes (in bytes). This allows, for example, deleting pages only of a certain size or below. [27]
- Non-administrators can now check which pages are able to be deleted using the Speciaal:MassaalVerwijderen tool. Thanks to user MolecularPilot for this and the previous improvements. [28]
View all 25 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, a bug was fixed in the configuration for the AV1 video file format, which enables these files to play again. [29]
Updates for technical contributors
- Parsoid Read Views is going to be rolling out to most Wiktionaries over the next few weeks, following the successful transition of Wikivoyage to Parsoid Read Views last year. For more information, see the Parsoid/Parser Unification project page. [30][31]
- Developers of tools that run on-wiki should note that
mw.Uri
is deprecated. Tools requiringmw.Uri
must explicitly declaremediawiki.Uri
as a ResourceLoader dependency, and should migrate to the browser nativeURL
API soon. [32]
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