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Dingir ?
[edit]Dingir(in Sumerian) = "God" Böri (talk) 12:09, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Lists of "Sumerian-Turkic cognates" are pseudolinguistics. See WP:FRINGE. --dab (𒁳) 15:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
You say so Böri (talk) 09:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
You did not present a reference. However, I have looked around for you, and I find that the connection has indeed been drawn, in literature of the 19th and early 20th century, e.g. here, John G. R. Forlong, Encyclopedia of Religions, 1906. If you like we can mention the idea, provided of course we point out that this doesn't have any credibility in contemporary scholarship. --dab (𒁳) 12:01, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Osman Nedim Tuna created several laws regarding Turkic words entering Sumerian from Proto-Tigris language. These laws were peer-reviewed and accepted as impeccable and case proven by a committee of experts in Pennsylvania University in 9 April 1974. Tuna's work is definitely not pseudolinguistics like the works of people like Polat Kaya.
Among the 22 experts who accepted his work as proven and impeccable are the following people:
Åke W. Sjöberg, assyriologist. Professor emeritus of Sumerian at the University of Pennsylvania, first editor of The Sumerian dictionary... And the following people: Earl Leichty, George Cardona, Henry Hoenigswald
Dingir < Tengri is one of those word that doesn't even require a law. It's the same word.
Here's a link to his Turkish book: http://tr.scribd.com/doc/64297815/Osman-Nedim-Tuna-Sumer-ve-Turk-Dillerinin-Tarihi-%C4%B0lgisi Ancalimonungol (talk) 14:56, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- rather Tengil - Lord Of Karmanjaka. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.224.124.75 (talk) 17:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
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Just want to add a reference to See Also section.
Tengri Khagan (天可汗) was a title addressed to the Emperor Taizong of Tang. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_of_Heaven Alawaus (talk) 02:17, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Generally we don't cite Wikipedia. Do you have a reliable source? Happy Editing--IAmChaos 22:31, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- IAmChaos, I don't think we need a reliable source here. Unless I've not misunderstood this request, Alawaus wants to add Khan of Heaven to the See also section, which doesn't require a source. Thanks. --Baggaet (talk) 14:35, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- Done Aaron Liu (talk) 03:28, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Chuvash Etimology
[edit]Kăwak Тĕnçeri Tură - Blue Sky Creator=(GOD) - Kök Teŋiri . Тĕnçeri - IPA [tʲɘnʲd͡ʑɛrʲi] - Heavenly, Ecumenical. Tĕne = 天 tiān - sky.
Chuvash: Tĕne, Tĕnche English: world, sky, universe Mari: тÿня Udmurt: дунне Uzbek: дунё Azerbaijani: dünya Turkish: dünya Tatar: дөнья Bashkir: донъяла
«匈奴谓天为撑犁» - Xiōngnú wèi tiān wèi tēnglí - The Huns called the tiān (sky) a tenjri. Tĕncheri - 𐱅𐰭𐰼𐰃 *teŋri. - heavenly. Tĕncheri Tură - heavenly creator (god). Tură - God - in translation means Creator.
AMA (dial. Kukamai / Kăwak Amai) - goddess Ama - she is Umai among the Turks , sometimes Kök Umai - Is the goddess of fertile land, the patroness of mothers and children. Ama translated from the Chuvash Mother's Womb.
We call our faith "Chăn Chăvash Tĕni" - The World Order of the Real Chuvashs (in translation). Our main god is Tĕncheri Tură - the God of Heaven (the Universe) which consists of several layers.
Çĕlhe - [t͡ɕɪɫɣe] - language Tatar - tel (e) Bashkir - tel (e) Chuvash - chĕl (he) Mongolian: hal Turkish: dil (dil) Azerbaijani: dil Uzbek: til (til) Kazakh: Тілі Kyrgyz: Tili Uyghur: tili Yakut: rear Altaic: til Shor: Tili Afrikaans: taal Dutch: taal Estonian: (keel) keel Finnish: kieli Mari - jyl (me) Udmurt - kyl moksha - kyal Erzya - kel Lithuanian: kal/ba (kalba)
Say thanks to UXM. I know all the ancient Chuvash mythology Chăn Chăvash Tĕni (Tengrianism) 176.52.97.226 (talk) 12:25, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Describing his journey to the Volga in 921-922, Ibn Fadlan wrote about the nomadic Turks (Oghuz - ): And if one of them suffers injustice or something unpleasant happens to him, he will raise his head to the sky and say: “Bir tengri”, and this is in Turkic “[I swear] by God alone”, since “bir” in Turkic "one", and "tengri" in the Turkic language - "creator".
Pĕr Tĕnçeri = “Bir tengri” = United in heaven (in the universe, in the world)
Oghuz = Oghur - rhotacism is Öküz (Turkish) and Ökör (Hungarian), earlier, the ancient tribes of the Turks roamed on yurts with wheels drawn by oxen (castrated bulls), you can find this on various images and sources. The Hungarian Ogor is borrowed from the Chuvash (Bulgarian) language as wăgăr - rhotacism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.52.97.226 (talk) 12:41, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
all the clues in the Turkic-Manchu languages, and their Finno-Ugric neighbors
English: water (Sea) chine: 水 Shuǐ - chuvash: Shyw (dial.Shui) - uzbek: Suv - kirgiz: Suu - azerb: Su - kazah: Su - tatar: Su - turck: Su
Сhuvash: Şin - Japan: 人 jin - English: human — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.52.97.226 (talk) 13:26, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Say thanks to UXM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.52.97.226 (talk) 12:30, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
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“Göktürk khans based their power on a mandate from Tengri. These rulers were generally accepted as the sons of Tengri who represented him on Earth. ” This sentence is clearly wrong. If the editors believe it is correct, they should add a very strong citation. Tanrikut does not mean Khan descended from God. It is a heavenly mandate. It means they were chosen by God to rule over mankind. It was believed to be inherlted by all members of the dynasty. However, it does not mean Khan descnded from God (as in China or Japan).
There are several different Gokturk origin myths in Chinese chronicle Zhou Shu Section 50. None of them claim descent from God. The most mythical of these claims Gokturk dynasty descended from a boy and a she wolf. 2A02:1811:C02:9400:BC87:7F45:EFF5:237D (talk) 20:52, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 21:06, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
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Please, add a reference to "Sea Also": Tangra, a Bulgarian rock band named after Tengri.
- Not done: That article has no connections to this article. Lightoil (talk) 04:48, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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