Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard

Note to bureaucrats that this RfC was closed with a consensus for Option 2, so the Administrator policy has been changed/clarified. The relevant passage from WP:Administrators is below with removals struck through and additions underlined.

• Over five years since administrative tools were last used. In the case of removal due to inactivity, for any administrator who does not have a logged administrator action in five years, bureaucrats should not restore administrator access upon request. This applies to all former administrators

If there are any clarifications needed let me know. —Ganesha811 (talk) 15:14, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ganesha811, you should also update Wikipedia:Bureaucrats#Restoration_of_permissions. -- WOSlinker (talk) 18:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Done. —Ganesha811 (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for making the change and informing us. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:53, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

• After WP:ADMIN was updated to state as such, I included linked notes at WP:CRAT and WP:RECALL that state that failing to pass a recall will actually result in access removal. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Fastily (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^{(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)}

Following the outcome of Wikipedia:Administrator recall/Fastily, I am electing to resign. I will not be seeking reconfirmation, thanks. -Fastily 08:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your service. Ymblanter (talk) 08:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your service. Particurly after performing over 646668 admin actions including over 635368 deletions.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:34, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for all the work you have done as an admin. I have often seen your contributions in my watchlist and truly appreciated them. – DreamRimmer (talk) 08:46, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done Echo the above. Good luck, Fastily. Acalamari 09:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for all the hard work you have done; unfortunately, it often goes unthanked for. As for me: I will miss you as an admin. Lectonar (talk) 09:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for being at Wikipedia for 16 years. Good luck and have a great life outside Wikipedia. PEPSI697 (💬 • 📝) 09:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, Fastily. We appreciate the dignity with which you've carried yourself through these activities. BusterD (talk) 14:37, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

What a shame. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:39, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I believe "own goal" is the sports term for this. One of our most productive admins has just been sacked. I am not happy. And WP:RECALL is a trainwreck. I can't blame Fastily at all for saying "no thanks" to another RFA. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps the RfA process needs an overhaul... Buffs (talk) 15:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is a perennial idea. WP:RFA2021, WP:RFA2024, etc. –Novem Linguae (talk) 23:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

It is indeed, and several of the ideas that came out of the last round have at least been given a trial run. I still don't really understand why admin recall was lumped in with that, though; admin recall has as much to do with RFA (and RFA improvement) as the blocking policy does. Risker (talk) 00:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I mean, it's quite frankly a bit late in the day to be raising that particular objection, but my recollection is that the idea was that if it was easier to remove admins, maybe it would be easier to make new ones, and therefore it is part of the same "suite" of proposals. Whether that is turning out to actually be the case certainly has not been established as of right now.

The process to get these new things up and running was both long and confusing and I, and I expect many others, kind of walked away after a while as it seemed nothing was actually going to come of it, but the folks who kept with it managed to get this through and here we are. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 00:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I see your point, JSS. On the other hand, I don't think many admins or editors would have expected to have an "admin recall" section in an RFC on RFA, so a proposal that failed several times when it was a standalone proposal managed to sneak past almost everyone's radar. I don't assume any bad faith there, but I do think that those who were running the RFC should have politely suggested that particular proposal was out of scope, but could well be run separately. Risker (talk) 02:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I certainly didn't realise that the RFA RFCs were doing anything regarding admin recall. I didn't feel I had anything useful to offer regarding RFA so chose not to invest my time in the process, but would likely have participated in one regarding admin recall. I support the concept of a recall process, as long as it is as fair as possible to all parties and all foreseeable major issues are dealt with before they arise. What we've ended up with does not currently tick either of those boxes, although with some major changes I think it has the potential to which is why I'm so engaged with the the pre-RFC workshopping at WP:REWORK. Thryduulf (talk) 03:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Likewise, Thryduulf; I do think the time has come for a community-based admin recall process. If it had been a separate RFC, I would have eked out the time to participate. Perhaps that is where we will be heading soon. Risker (talk) 04:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for all your hard work, Fastily. Espresso Addict (talk) 21:06, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

You might recall me prodding you to ask for your bit back every time you came to WP:AN to point out a backlog between your adminships. I've never regretted that, despite the quibbles I've had with some of your actions. —Cryptic 21:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your service and hard work here. At times like this Wikipedia truly does suck!, I wish you all the very best, Take care and stay safe. –Davey2010^Talk 01:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. jp×g🗯️ 17:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your service. It's truly sad to see you leave like this. I wish you all the very best in real life and hope to see you return someday. The new policy seriously needs to be reconsidered, forcing re-RfA on only 25 endorsements, when RfAs are getting passed with 150-300 supports, is just absurd. -- CptViraj (talk) 16:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Tamzin (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^{(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)}

I would like to reäctivate my adminship. Since my resignation in February and the feelings about it that I expressed in this audio essay, I've spent a lot of time thinking and looking inward. I haven't changed my mind about anything I said in that essay, but I have learned to better synthesize disparate feelings in myself, like my desire to help in administrative tasks versus my disdain for a lot of our administrative culture. This time around, I plan to focus on quality over quantity, as I've been doing for the past few months in admin-adjacent areas. As always, my gratitude to the bureaucrat team. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 00:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

yay :3 — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 00:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

What a surprise! :) SerialNumber54129 00:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Welcome back! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 00:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Has at least a logged admin action from Feb 2024. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Really glad to see this! Don't let anyone pressure you into working in areas that might involve wading into it. I jibed with your essay in February, and it's only come to feel more true since then. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 04:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's a pleasure to see you return. JJP_Master (she/they) 11:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Happy to see you back! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Another administrator back again! Congratulations! — 3PPYB6 ^{(T / C / L)} — 15:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Welcome back :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Remember to get some sleep. It has been busy of late. BusterD (talk) 17:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Welcome back! :) – dudhhr ^talk_contribs^she_her 17:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

welcome back :3 Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 22:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I object. They said they synthesized and that is a policy violation. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Fortunately, there's a shortcut for everything, SFR. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 01:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done. 28bytes (talk) 00:35, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! :) -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 01:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

welcome back!!! very happy to see this :3 Rexo (talk | contributions) 03:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Graham87 (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^{(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)}

Please desysop me; I've withdrawn my re-RFA. I've given myself the non-admin user rights I wanted. I'll keep my importer right. Graham87 (talk) 11:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done. Removing per the not pass criteria for a recall RRfA. Access may be regained in the future via WP:RFA. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm sure you mean well but giving yourself every right under the sun before requesting desysop seems a bit tone deaf to me. -OXYLYPSE (talk) 11:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Granted, he did provide explanations for each right in the log summary. JJP_Master (she/they) 11:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Noting, there were some self-granted lesser included permission groups recently added, and user is a member of the special importers group. Endorsing all the lesser groups in my admin capacity as the RRfA didn't bring up any issues with them. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Should any actual use issue occur with these, please feel free to bring example to my talk page, or start a thread at WP:ANI. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Dennis Brown (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^{(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)}

Please remove my admin bit for the time being. I don't need any other advance privileges at this time. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 05:11, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done thank you for your service. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, Dennis for your years of diligent competence in service to our mission. BusterD (talk) 11:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your service and hope you will get back soon. Ymblanter (talk) 11:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. jp×g🗯️ 04:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Dennis, you've been an inspiration to me and to this project for nearly 2 decades. Thank you so much. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply