Dark Area[]
It's clearly not true that every Digital World has a Dark Area in Tamers or Fusion, tho, and doesn't really seem to be true in Frontier, at least in the sense of the Dark Area as-described-in-the-profiles. There are similar, but distinct, concepts in those, and it would be consistent to say that every Digital World has an analogue to the Dark Area, but as far as the actual Dark Area with Porcupamon, Nightmare Soldiers, under the Net Ocean, ruled by the Demon Lords, guarded by Anubimon, that seems to be the null/Adventure version of the Dark Area.Now activating Project: SPIDERS EVERYWHERE 14:32, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- the dark area wasn't even shown in tamers or fusion. itd exist there somewhere as where the dead digimon go/hang out. it doesnt mean the dark area connects tamers to adventure, or frontier to fusion, it's just that king drasil's dark area connects to homeros/illiad's dark area, as well as things like witchelny i guess. toei saying tamers gallantmon is a royal knight means king drasil exists in the tamers universe and as such so does his dark area. the one we have 99% of dark area information for is king drasl's weve only just learned about the dark area of illiad which is presumably the one that plutomon is the leader of since it always felt weird to claim pluto, an illiad digimon, ruled the king drasil dark area.Marcusbwfc (talk) 22:36, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well that's the point, yes. In Tamers, we have a complete system map which leaves no room for a Dark Area under the Net Ocean. Plus, there isn't an area where dead Digimon go to be recycled and reborn, because that's not what happens in Tamers (or Fusion). In Frontier, we saw the Digital World disassembled down to its core, and the closest thing we have is Lucemon's prison, which is fundamentally different. There's certainly Dark Areas in multiple Digital Worlds, but just as certainly we've seen multiple Digital Worlds where there simply isn't room for them, and I think we should treat the lore about the null-canon/Adventure one as only applying to that Digital World, and noting the continuities in which it appears (with maybe a see also to Lucemon's prison, the D-Reaper's layer, the Dark Web, etc.)
- As for Plutomon, if the Olympos are refugees from the Iliad world, as the lore seems to indicate, it would be feasible for Plutomon to have conquered part of the Yggdrassil-world Dark Area.
- As far as Gallantmon, honestly the concept of Royal Knights was in its infancy, they definitely didn't have a concept of Yggdrassil at that point, and it's pretty clear from a meta-level that they were just beginning to explore the concept of special Knight Digimon with that entry. We know enough about the lack of communication and canon-checking at Bandai to know it's wiser to minimize connecting dots that Bandai hasn't explicitly connected for us.Now activating Project: SPIDERS EVERYWHERE 16:46, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- well, this is a direct statement from bandai that all digital worlds connect to the dark areas via the cocytus. not just the default one we tag as adventure but all including things like illiad and witchelny. its not me making shit up its a canon statement from bandai themselves. we could maybe put a ref note on the statement saying that although bandai have claimed this it doesnt appear to be the case in certain places but bandai have outright said here in teh null canon that all digital worlds connect to the cocytus, us going um actually is applying head canons over actual canons. if the 25 year old map of tamers doesnt show it well... thats how retcons work. bandai have said this as a thing, tamers having its own cocytus. and when political correctness exists its not like its the worst thing conencted to tamers in the last 12 months. king drasil didnt exist in adventure as the god there was eniac but then tri went um actually drasil exists here now too. eniac who. tamers has a dark area now. maybe there's no rebirth there because anubismon left or something. its not like it was a game or anime saying this, its an actual null canon profile lore saying it.Marcusbwfc (talk) 17:00, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- That's not really what I'm talking about. The Dark Area covered in this linked article, the one with Anubimon, etc., is the null-canon/Adventure version. It's worth mentioning that other Digital Worlds have "a dark area", but as far as I can tell it's not accurate to claim that the attributes described in the linked article apply to every Dark Area, even the ones that we know Iliad has. That's why I'm objecting to moving it from being attached to the Adventure DW list to its own list.17:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure what you meant honestly till the whole net ocean thing was brought up. i have tried my best to split up the dark area stuff.Marcusbwfc (talk) 19:49, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- That's not really what I'm talking about. The Dark Area covered in this linked article, the one with Anubimon, etc., is the null-canon/Adventure version. It's worth mentioning that other Digital Worlds have "a dark area", but as far as I can tell it's not accurate to claim that the attributes described in the linked article apply to every Dark Area, even the ones that we know Iliad has. That's why I'm objecting to moving it from being attached to the Adventure DW list to its own list.17:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- well, this is a direct statement from bandai that all digital worlds connect to the dark areas via the cocytus. not just the default one we tag as adventure but all including things like illiad and witchelny. its not me making shit up its a canon statement from bandai themselves. we could maybe put a ref note on the statement saying that although bandai have claimed this it doesnt appear to be the case in certain places but bandai have outright said here in teh null canon that all digital worlds connect to the cocytus, us going um actually is applying head canons over actual canons. if the 25 year old map of tamers doesnt show it well... thats how retcons work. bandai have said this as a thing, tamers having its own cocytus. and when political correctness exists its not like its the worst thing conencted to tamers in the last 12 months. king drasil didnt exist in adventure as the god there was eniac but then tri went um actually drasil exists here now too. eniac who. tamers has a dark area now. maybe there's no rebirth there because anubismon left or something. its not like it was a game or anime saying this, its an actual null canon profile lore saying it.Marcusbwfc (talk) 17:00, 9 June 2022 (UTC)