User talk:OwenBlacker/Archive 13

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The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:New York. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

 Done — OwenBlacker (Talk) 11:47, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Two years ago ...

languages + liberté
... you were recipient no. 1093 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Macedonia (ancient kingdom). Legobot (talk) 04:23, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

✗ Not done There's plenty of feedback there already; I don't have anything useful to add. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 11:54, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello, OwenBlacker! I saw you recently edited a page related to the Green party and green politics. There is a new WikiProject that has been formed - WikiProject Green Politics and I thought this might be something you'd be interested in joining! So please head on over to the project page and take a look! Thanks for your time. Me-123567-Me (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

@Me-123567-Me: Thanks for letting me know, but I'm pretty busy with WP:WikiProject AIDS and WP:WikiProject Former countries at the moment so I'm not likely to be able to put much effort in on Green topics, I'm afraid. I'll drop in when I can, but I doubt that'll be very often, sorry. Good luck! 😊 — OwenBlacker (Talk) 21:43, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

I completely understand! Break a leg! Me-123567-Me (talk) 21:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

18:16, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi OwenBlacker, Really, time to stop pushing your desired edit through against consensus (of the MOS). You could at least try to justify per the explicit exception wording (3rd time I've suggested). Hey, you may want to check out other dab pages, but just drop trying to push without recognising it is against consensus, and we work by consensus around here. Hope that helps, I really am dropping this now until there's more opinions. Widefox; talk 14:22, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

@Widefox: I don't believe it is against consensus — I don't think the issue has been considered. There is no explicit exception wording, as I pointed out. I know we work on consensus here — I've been an editor for a similar length of time to you; you don't need to patronise me over a discussion I thought we were both having in good faith. If you would like to continue with this conversation, we can do it on Talk:MD — where I should point out you appear to be the one wikilawyering and opposing consensus (and WP:BRD, as has been pointed out). Kindly continue the debate there, not here. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 14:27, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Agreed - more opinions have solved it. I was wrong. Sorry and thanks, as hopefully we'll get this sorted in MOSDAB now. (see talk, let's continue on dab talk) Widefox; talk 14:34, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Principality of Erfurt you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of 10W40 -- 10W40 (talk) 14:01, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

@10W40: Awesome; thanks for letting me know. Are you done with your first pass? If so, I can take a look at the comments you've raised and either make corrections or discuss them with you further :) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 13:58, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead and reply now. My comments are mostly about reducing the use of German and extending the lead section. Many readers will read only the lead, so this section should include all the important points you make. 10W40 (talk) 15:23, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

The article Principality of Erfurt you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Principality of Erfurt for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of 10W40 -- 10W40 (talk) 20:41, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

(I've put the GAN on hold myself, to allow myself time to incorporate improvements from 10W40's feedback without needing to hurry it through while I'm in the last 2 weeks of a project in my dayjob 😊) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 20:50, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:British Empire. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

✗ Not done — OwenBlacker (Talk) 14:01, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

09:40, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Far-left politics in the United Kingdom. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

 Done — OwenBlacker (talk) 20:29, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Bobbi Campbell you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of JulieMay54 -- JulieMay54 (talk) 02:01, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Attack on Pearl Harbor. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

OwenBlacker, I'm sorry that your GA reviewer is unable to continue work on the review. You might want to post a request at WT:GAN to see whether someone would be willing to take over the existing review. If not, you can either wait for the posted second opinion request to bear fruit—though it may not bring in someone who wants to conduct the rest of the review—or the nomination can be put back into the pool of articles waiting for a review with no loss of seniority. Please ping me at any time to let me know if you'd like the nomination to be put back. Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 22:07, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: If you wouldn't mind putting me back in the original queue, that would be very much appreciated, thank you. — OwenBlacker (talk) 22:40, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

OwenBlacker, per your request, it's back in nominations pool. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:30, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

17:02, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, January–June 2016. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

✗ Not done — OwenBlacker (talk) 16:18, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox treaty/TemplateData has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Pppery 21:51, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

✗ Not done. No objections here — OwenBlacker (talk) 19:01, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Shakya. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

 Done — OwenBlacker (talk) 19:01, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

13:04, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Anti-fascism. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

 Done — OwenBlacker (talk) 17:06, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Owen. Thanks for your edits at Jonathan Demme. I wonder would you consider adding your support for an RD posting at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates? Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:26, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

@Martinevans123: Done; thanks for pinging me on it; I've never looked at ITN stuff before. — OwenBlacker (talk) 21:32, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks, Owen. As long as the article is good enough, any RD will be posted. That's the way RD works these days. But your support rationale makes perfect sense. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:35, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

The article Principality of Erfurt you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Principality of Erfurt for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of 10W40 -- 10W40 (talk) 19:02, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Ooh, I'd totally forgotten this was in the queue. Thank you so much, @10W40:, that's made my weekend! — OwenBlacker (talk) 17:10, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Intercommunal conflict in Mandatory Palestine. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

15:19, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Liberalism in Iran. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

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This is a few months past due, but I just discovered the issue today: what prompted you to tag Catholic Church and HIV/AIDS with a {{lead missing}} template? The article had a very well-developed two-paragraph long lead section. It was missing a sentence that contained the specific words "Catholic Church and HIV/AIDS", but an exact recapitulation of the article title in the lead is not required. (See WP:BEGIN.) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:49, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

@WikiDan61: I agree that a lead doesn't need to catalogue all the points in the article, but the pre-heading section is so long that it doesn't all fit on my laptop screen. The point I was hoping to make was that the lead could do with being substantially more concise. — OwenBlacker (talk) 21:29, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

This is a long and complex article. A lead of three paragraphs is not unduly long. (WP:MOSLEAD recommends up to four paragraphs.) But if you truly feel the lead needs to be pared down, the template for that is {{lead too long}}. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:33, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

@WikiDan61: Oh indeed. But they're very long paragraphs. A much shorter lead would definitely be helpful. — OwenBlacker (talk) 22:05, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure, given the content of that template, that it is the most appropriate tag, but I've tagged it thus nonetheless :) — OwenBlacker (talk) 22:07, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:First Cameron ministry. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

✗ Not done. Too late, though I'd have agreed with the eventual result in any case. — OwenBlacker (talk) 17:51, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Badme. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

✗ Not done — OwenBlacker (talk) 11:25, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

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The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Blue Sky with a White Sun. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

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I've restored the image to the article, by reverting conflicted edits, so I've removed Template:Di-orphaned fair use from the image. The image does need updating; if someone has a moment. — OwenBlacker (talk) 18:22, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

While doing cleanup in album articles I came across a page move you performed way back in 2005:

Intergalactic Sonic 7’’s → Intergalactic Sonic 7″s

I can see the paired single-quotes are admittedly weird, but I'm a MOS:CURLY advocate and don't like seeing non-standard quotes. This seems like a typographic choice to me. Or was there an issue with putting a double quote in a title? (I was going to list this at Requested Moves.) – Reidgreg (talk) 17:41, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: Hey, thanks for pinging me. The change I made wasn't to a smartquote, but to a double-prime symbol — the title is referring to 7-inch vinyl. WP:TITLESPECIALCHARACTERS has the prime symbols down as "avoid them", but doesn't forbid them and doesn't include them in the list of forbidden characters (so the same as a double-quote would be). It's a bit pedantic, but 7" is incorrect whereas 7″ is correct here. Does that make sense? :) — OwenBlacker (talk) 18:33, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I'm glad I asked. (I should be more familiar with this!) I guess I grew up with metric and never realized it should be prime and double-prime for feet and inches. Boy, you learn stuff every day on the wiki. Thanks for the info! – Reidgreg (talk) 19:45, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: Haha, it's a "benefit" of growing up in the UK during the generation or 2 where the changeover between Imperial and metric was occurring. No problem; have a good weekend :) — OwenBlacker (talk) 19:52, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Come back to the Bernard discussion, please. There is a small group of editors that insists on the host label even though its inaccurate and badly placed.FP2C (talk) 07:58, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Interested in discussing the spoiler about Bernard again? I'm trying my best, but things are falling on deaf ears. Bremen (talk) 15:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry if I gave you some grief over your edit to the {{WikiProject banner shell}}. I've been misreading WP:BRINT all along, and I'm glad you've set me straight on it.  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  13:24, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: No problem; I hope you don'think I was too standoffish in my reply. It was late and I was grumpy, so sorry if I was an arse about it :) — OwenBlacker (talk) 14:20, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

And here I also thought I was being less than friendly. You did the right thing, which made me go back and check BRINT. I slightly altered that bullet and hopefully it won't be misread by others as I misread it. As old as I am, I can still learn, so thank you for that!  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  14:24, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Hah, it's always good for us all to remember not to let our skins be too thin. That is definitely a clearer wording on BRINT; thank you. And we can all always still learn — where would be the fun in not doing? :) Have a good evening! — OwenBlacker (talk) 16:34, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

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The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Google's Ideological Echo Chamber. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

The article Bobbi Campbell you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Bobbi Campbell for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Vanamonde93 -- Vanamonde93 (talk) 10:20, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Owen Blacker, you've been active since I began this review: are you going to be able to get to my comments soon? While I am happy to keep an article on hold if you are busy because of real life, keeping a review open for a long time without any justification is not particularly fair to other nominators. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 08:42, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: Sorry, I rarely get an opportunity to spend much time on Wikipedia things during the week; I should be able to take a proper look at your comments over the weekend. I wouldn't expect to be able to make all the necessary adjustments to the article over this weekend, but I should certainly be able to ping you with my responses before Sunday evening. Thanks! — OwenBlacker (talk) 10:02, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

That's quite alright, so long as it hasn't fallen off your radar. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 10:12, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: Nope, I'm on it, don't worry :) I've not quite finished with my edits, thoughts and feedback and it's time I should head to bed now, but I should have an update for you within the next day or so. Thanks for your help! — OwenBlacker (talk) 22:00, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Sex characteristics. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

✗ Not done Looks like consensus beat me to it. — OwenBlacker (talk) 20:55, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

 Done — OwenBlacker (talk) 20:47, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

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✗ Not done — OwenBlacker (talk) 19:42, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

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The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Please reopen this discussion; I was in the midst of a reply to clear up some misunderstandings, as many keeps are based on wrong suppositions (and some others simply on personal animosity). Fram (talk) 20:32, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

@Fram: Sorry, but it seems clear to me that there's not going to be a consensus at this time. I can only suggest relisting in a week, making things clearer to avoid mistaken suppositions. — OwenBlacker (talk) 21:09, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

I'll sleep about it, perhaps I'll file a deletion review tomorrow. I don't blame you though, it's mainly due to my own poor presentation, believing that people would either know what they were talking about or would do some research instead of insta-posting. Oh well... Fram (talk) 21:16, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

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Hi Owen- Just curious, what is all that language tagging on place- and family names for in Fribourg#Middle_Ages? Eric ^talk 13:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

@Eric: It helps assistive technologies (such as screenreaders) handle text where the language is different from the language of the page-content. As it mentions at MOS:LANG, Non-English words or phrases should be encased in {{lang}} and there's a little more information at Template:Lang/doc#Rationale. — OwenBlacker (talk) 13:59, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I thought it might be something like that. Thanks for letting me know. Does the MOS call for that on proper names? Eric ^talk 14:04, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

No problem, Eric. The MOS is not explicit around proper names, but the accessibility rationale still holds, so I add it and others don't. I don'think I've seen anyone remove it, though — the disbenefits are minimal, after all. — OwenBlacker (talk) 14:05, 18 December 2017 (UTC)