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[edit]I have been filling in TT Races from 1939 back, and have used your description for the 1935 Isle of Man TT, but would like to cite the source or sources for the information, as per Wikipedia:Citing_sources. I have had a few "citation needed" notices for my own contributions, so was hoping to fill in the blanks. 1935 to 1939 are done, if you want to add anything to them? Seasalt 06:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
You are correct Agljones, H G Tyrrel Smith was an Irish motorcycle racer. Found it in some German race results. Thank you for the 1935 sources. This H G Tyrrel Smith was quite a winner, but have not found anything biographical on the net. I do not know the IOM course, so could not comment on the shortcomings or otherwise. I just fill in what info can be found with Google. Feel free to fill in or correct the details. Seasalt 14:07, 12 November 2006 (UTC)Seasalt 14:04, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Good info! Everything I could find is here- User:Seasalt/Vincent Seasalt 13:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)Seasalt 13:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Put up H G Tyrell Smith. Did 1932 Isle of Man TT and 1931 Isle of Man TT results, without preambles. Feel free. Good to see 1933 & 1934. Seasalt 11:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit]"Conflict of Interest tagging and disruptive editing"
I have tagged this article as Conflict of Interest.
- I first suspected editor Agljones of CoI editing following repeated deletions of my fair, accurate and reliably-sourced contributions during May/June 2014, when I wrote the following edit-summary into the history purposely for future use: rvt with clarification, deletion of prose + 3 sources by IOM resident appears partisan non-neutral COI
Agljones spuriously asserted that the Isle of Man TT races were not, actually, races at all but time-trials, therefore could not be considered as the world's most dangerous race. The world's most dangerous race was stated to be the Paris-Dakar endurance event: Dakar Rally is statistically consider most dangerous race (approx 1.9 deaths per event including large number of spectators/race officials
Agljones continued to delete good prose and references throughout 2014 into 2015, causing me to abandon the articles and remove from my watchlist to avoid the appearance of edit-warring
- Agljones was unequivocally identified as a CoI editor in June/July of 2015
- Agljones was noted to have self-identified when uploading many images to Wikipedia
- Agljones was requested to make a CoI declaration, which was not complied with (2015)
- Agljones was then requested not to make changes to any Isle of Man or TT race articles which was not complied with (2015)
- Agljones has exhibited historic ownership of Isle of Man and TT race type articles
- Agljones has a long history of edit-warring, disruptive editing, and initiating spurious sequences such as Articles for Deletion, Administrator Noticeboard Incidents, and two approaches to the Teahouse, a facility intended to provide guidance for new users
- Agljones has user registrations from 2006 and 2008
- Agljones' talk page has been disguised with massive deletions followed by archiving of the remnants
- Agljones is a historically a single purpose editor but has recently taken to ramping-up edit-count with many minor maintenance changes, contrary to past tradition
- Agljones is continuing with battleground editing at several articles/talk pages during January to March 2017, including, as before, deletion of good, referenced prose, having historic sources written by industry experts
In accordance with Wikipedia Conflict of Information policies, Agljones should not attempt to make any further changes to the topic(s) indicated and allow non-conflicted editors to contribute without interference, and should cease all disruptive editing at any other Wikipedia location, eg, talk pages, Articles for Deletion and incident noticeboards, etc.
This is just a brief summary to conform with Wikipedia requirements and to observe the required degree of secrecy that Wikipedia affords to Conflict of Interest editors who fail to declare their involvements.
I am satisfied that Agljones has at least two serious Conflicts of Interest that would normally prevent participation in the topic areas, but as Agljones is defiant we may never know the true extent.
This notice can be considered as a warning.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 05:26, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
- User:Rocknrollmancer, I urge you to be more careful with your accusations. First of all, this laundry list really does not belong on the article talk page: you are talking about user behavior more than the article. Second, I have looked over the list and, as long as it is and as many accusations as it contains, it is remarkably short on evidence. For instance, where is the evidence that "Agljones was unequivocally identified as a CoI editor in June/July of 2015"? Nor do I see evidence that Agljones is an SPA from the get-go, though it is clear that they have a hobby horse. I see no evidence that they are somehow whitewashing anything (like in that series of back and forths over which race is the most dangerous); that you don't agree with them doesn't mean they're a paid editor. The only bad mark on their record that I can see is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Agljones/Archive, obviously, but that was years ago.
In other words, if you cannot produce solid evidence that there's something fishy here, you should drop this topic, lest you fall into HOUNDING territory, which is a kind of harassment. It may well be that some of Agljones's edits are problematic--discuss them, without making these kinds of accusations. If the edits are indeed bad, there are ways to handle that, including dispute resolution. I'll also ping Doncram, who has some history here, as well as Callanecc and Salvidrim! (for the socking--this merely a pro forma notification which they are free to ignore).
However, Agljones, not all is equally well. For now I will bypass the hobby horse, that is the enormous proliferation of Isle of Man related articles (every curve needs an article???), and will merely point at what seems to be some troubling comments made earlier, particularly in this version of the talk page. (Rocknrollmancer, don't give me that stuff about "disguising" stuff on a talk page--users are perfectly entitled to remove conversations.) It seems to me that the verbosity and the legalese do not contribute to a healthy editing atmosphere; Boing! said Zebedee mentioned the verbosity earlier, and Yngvadottir remarked on how the main point got lost completely. Let me add, then, that stuff like this really means nothing, and that making legal threats is not a productive way of participating in our community. Thank you both. Drmies (talk) 15:49, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Nomination of Kerrowmoar for deletion
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Requests
[edit]After due consideration and recent misuse, I request editors not to make any further requests for information. I may reply to some historic or general editing request on this talk;page.
I request editors to note the following;-
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Agljones19:28, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Portal:Isle of Man TT
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License problems
[edit]Hi Agljones,
In several of your uploads, you asserted a license of things like "bfugguihgsck(@0gshcqokfsbojdcl&u£n*?ehzxt!". That's obviously not a constructive way to contribute here. Please adjust this one and check your others to make sure we can audit licensing properly. DMacks (talk) 17:45, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Also, File:KG IMG P0003971.jpg is a photograph of (apparently) some museum display. Part of our image policy requires that you state details about that itself (for example, where it is), not just that you took a picture of it. See WP:Derivative works for the license reasoning. DMacks (talk) 17:50, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Isle of Man TT results
[edit]I saw you removed the riders first names from 1907 Isle of Man TT article and 1908. Wondering the reason behind that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:BEB0:5300:5902:3727:2BBD:3FEA (talk) 06:58, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- The burden of proof lies with any editor adding or restoring information has to provide an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution. The original results show only the initials or sometimes the full name and have been restored to the details in quoted references.
- Recent additional information by editor 107.133.4.147 has not been supported by additional inline citations. For example, the engine capacities are not stated in the quoted sources or the original race programme and may be seen by other editors as original research. The inclusion of names by editor 107.133.4.147 may suggest that the information is derived from unsourced material and composite WP:COPYVIO material from unquoted self published official websites WP:QS WP:NOTRELIABLE which may quote Wikipedia as a source. (Agljones)16:38, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
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Official TT results site has all these riders first names listed. You made a mistake so revert it back. thx. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:BEB0:5300:A1D4:D968:3ADB:F6B0 (talk) 00:21, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
This has been discussed in full that inline citation are required to full support the addition or reverting of material. The sources have to be reliable and the "Official" results site is a self published official websites WP:QS WP:NOTRELIABLE with copyright issues WP:COPYVIO to consider. The "Official" website is not considered reliable by most editors. The issue here is with editor 107.133.4.147 adding material to the results pages 1907-1925 and not including inline citations. The source "Motor Cycling" for the 1907 results only refers to the winner by the initials in the article and the results. As results may be considered as primary sources by some editors a further source is required to demonstrate that C.R Collier is actually Charlie R Collier or Charles Richard Collier. The use of other motor-cycling racing sources may not be considered as reliable for an inline citation as being partisan. The Harris (1989) publication (TT. Motocourse History of the Isle of Man Tourist Trophy Races 1907-1989) incorrectly quotes H.A. Collier as having the same initials as his father, the founder of Matchless motor-cycles. Issues of any editor behaviour may be taken to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The editor 2600:1700:BEB0:5300:513C:3B17:E026:2B5B has repeatedly made attempts to bypass the IP address system and not signed or dated edits. Along with editor 107.133.4.147, there may be enough evidence to proceed with a Sockpupperty enquiry WP:BOOMERANG. |
The issue has been discussed in full and is now formally closed and contributor 2600:1700:BEB0:5300:513C:3B17:E026:2B5B should not make any further comments on this talk:page. Any further comment should be made at this talk page and request editors to comment as the winners name is linked to the correct Wikipedia page. (Agljones)19:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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