Talk:Keyboard Sonata, K. 141 (Scarlatti)

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This would be the first article about a Scarlatti Keyboard Sonata. We should make it right.

• Name - the name should be Piano Sonata or Keyboard Sonata, with either a number (as for Mozart) or the catalogue number, so Keyboard Sonata No. xy (Scarlatti) or Keyboard Sonata, K. 141.

  adding: I gave two examples of working names. The present name, Keyboard Sonata K. 141 (Scarlatti), is not according to the Manual of style. The catalogue number is separated by a comma, and (different from Op.) the composer is not needed. If you want the composer's name, please take the other option. --

• Sonata form: it's no surprise (so should not be mentioned) that it is not in sonata form because that the term wasn't invented yet when he composed it.
• YouTube: One is enough, and should be formatted properly. Just at a glance, haven't looked at references. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• YouTube should be used as external links. Recordings should be described in prose, with links to performers, and references, best with reviews. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:19, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  >Sonata form: it's no surprise (so should not be mentioned) that it is not in sonata form because that the term wasn't invented yet when he composed it.

  To people with depth of understanding of musical history, sure, but maybe not to the everyday encyclopedia viewer. This is a topic of much confusion for people with only a surface level interest in classical music, and since this is by far scarlatti's most famous sonata, I thought the distinction was worth mentioning and does not detract from the article Tqger (talk) 01:31, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Your assertion on sonata form is not really true. There are and have always been many variations of sonata form—see Sonata theory#Sonata types, where this one is clearly either T1 or 2. Just because its not 'Exposition-Development-Recap', does not warrant it being called "not in sonata form" (an uncited statement which should be removed regardless). Note how our Sonata form article says "Sonata form is a musical structure generally consisting of three main sections" (my emphasis). Aza24 (talk) 07:53, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  There are many kinds of sonatas, but Sonata form is a specific form of classical period and later compositions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• External links are not permitted in the article body, so please replace them by a full sentence "... was recorded (when?) (by whom?)", with a citation by the external link. Please compare other articles about compositions. Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]