Commons:Deletion requests/2024/11/18

This image has been uploaded from a National Weather Service web page, where it is sourced to a third party, the Kiowa County Democrat newspaper. It is unknown who the actual photographer was, or when or where or how the newspaper obtained the photograph.

Issues of the Kiowa County Democrat from this period have been digitised only sporadically, and no issue from close to the date of this tornado are available. However -- available issues from 1905 include no photographs whatsoever. The earliest archived issues that feature editorial photography are from 1910.

So, although this image originates from the paper's archives, we have no evidence that it was ever published by them.

For many years, hosting such images on the Commons was done in good faith under the rationale that:

• public submissions to the NWS all entered the public domain and/or
• all files hosted on NWS websites were in the public domain unless they carried a formal copyright notice

An extensive review of this rationale in 2024 revealed that neither of these beliefs held up to scrutiny. These findings were confirmed in an RfC conducted from August to October 2024.

Per COM:ONUS it is the responsibility of the person uploading an image to the Commons or anyone arguing for its retention here to provide evidence of permission from the copyright holder. Nevertheless, I reached out to the Kiowa County Democrat on September 23 to ask for any more information about it. Their editor offered help within the next few days, but never replied again, even after a follow-up email I sent on November 5.

I forwarded our correspondence to the VRT: (ticket:2024111810004209)

Since this is an image created in the US before 1989, its copyright status will depend on the circumstances of its first publication, in particular, whether it was published before or after March 1, 1989. The earliest known publication of this image is on the NWS website where it was sourced. Unless any evidence of a previous publication can be found, this image is protected for 70 years after the death of its creator, or 120 years if its creator is never identified.

If it remains anonymous, it will enter the public domain on January 1, 2026. Without evidence to the contrary, this is a presumably unfree file and we must delete it as a precaution under COM:PRP until then.

Rlandmann (talk) 02:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by CalebEvans as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Object depicted is under crown copyright. No notice has been given that it is licensed under the OGL 3. - Kicking to DR to get eyes on this from someone that knows more about crown copyright The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:13, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This image has been uploaded from a National Weather Service web page, where it is attributed to a third party, the Jefferson County EMA.

For many years, hosting such images on the Commons was done in good faith under the rationale that:

• public submissions to the NWS all entered the public domain and/or
• all files hosted on NWS websites were in the public domain unless they carried a formal copyright notice

An extensive review of this rationale in 2024 revealed that neither of these beliefs held up to scrutiny. These findings were confirmed in an RfC conducted from August to October 2024.

Per COM:ONUS it is the responsibility of the person uploading an image to the Commons or anyone arguing for its retention here to provide evidence of permission from the copyright holder. Nevertheless, I reached out to the EMA on August 30 to see what they knew about it. After some research, their Emergency Manager told me that their local Fire Chief witnessed the event but did not take the photo, and believes that it was taken by famous storm photographer Reed Trimmer. I forwarded our correspondence to the VRT: (ticket:2024110610000137)

I also attempted to contact Reed Trimmer via his business's social media account. I received an autoresponse, but nothing further. I forwarded evidence of this to the VRT: (ticket:2024111810004352)

We therefore do not know who the creator and presumed copyright holder of this image is. But since this is an image created in the US after 1989, this is a presumably unfree file and we must delete it as a precaution under COM:PRP.

Rlandmann (talk) 02:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by AntiCompositeBot as no license (User:AntiCompositeBot/NoLicense/tag)  —Mayeenul Islam ^(TALK) 02:47, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a poster on the wall of the Conference Hall, not the poster itself. I took the image from the wall.  —Mayeenul Islam ^(TALK) 02:48, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This image has been uploaded from a National Weather Service web page, where it is attributed to a third party.

For many years, hosting such images on the Commons was done in good faith under the rationale that:

• public submissions to the NWS all entered the public domain and/or
• all files hosted on NWS websites were in the public domain unless they carried a formal copyright notice

An extensive review of this rationale in 2024 revealed that neither of these beliefs held up to scrutiny. These findings were confirmed in an RfC conducted from August to October 2024.

Per COM:ONUS it is the responsibility of the person uploading an image to the Commons or anyone arguing for its retention here to provide evidence of permission from the copyright holder.

Since this is an image created in the US after 1989 and is attributed to a creator eligible for copyright, this is a presumably unfree file and we must delete it as a precaution under COM:PRP.

Rlandmann (talk) 03:07, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is a copy of the picture found here, thus probably a copyright violation: https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=481&lot=62 Plozessor (talk) 04:12, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is part of history of Jewish Egyptians living in Egypt and the image of the midal is so old science 1927 Raafat (talk) 16:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The photo is surely not from 1927. Also you incorrectly specified "Own work" as source in the description. Plozessor (talk) 16:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence that the file has fallen into the public domain. The image was uploaded due to an incorrect interpretation of what freedom of panorama means. Tbhotch™ 04:44, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also

• File:Rafael Alcayde en Cinco rostros de mujer (1947).jpg
• File:Rafael Alcayde, Miroslava Stern y Arturo de Córdova en Cinco rostros de mujer (1947) (cropped).jpg

Dates of creation and first publication missing, dubious PD-rationale (70 pma for an unknown author). Komarof (talk) 05:07, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The link is 404, but if this is really a photo from the Russian Empire, it dates to at least 1917. I thought all photos from the Czarist period had been declared to be public domain. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no Freedom of Panorama in the Philippines. The bust was installed during the term of the late city councillor Nars Padilla (1992–95) as per this news article, meaning this bust is still under sculptural copyright and is unfree to be commercially hosted here.

• File:GeorgeAMalcolm-bust-2017.jpg
• File:Malcolm Square.JPG

JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 05:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no own work 2003:E5:FF28:7F71:2DA3:C5F8:4FD5:7A2 09:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This picture is my own work! Please delete this Deletion request. Thanks T7t7t7 (talk) 17:03, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

not pd in italy, it is pd in the us due to it being recorded in 1923 but the actual performer (giovanni martineli) died in 1969, therefore can only be transferred to commons in 2039) Noob282 (talk) 12:51, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

might retract if eu copyright law applies to recordings with base 50/70 years only and doesnt calculate from performer death and 50/70 years Noob282 (talk) 13:05, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

possible copyvio © jiri.ryszawy - we would need a COM:VRT permission to keep this M2k~dewiki (talk) 12:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Original research by wiki user. We have a file with a logo from film: file:Skynet Terminator logo.png. MBH 13:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Protected logo, not under public domain מקף־עברי (talk) 14:07, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly a placeholder or temporary logo… VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 17:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

{{PD-KPGov}} is simply not working with this image. The basic requirements for using this licensing are not met. This footage is part of an image set published by the North Korean state media. Msb (talk) 18:13, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

{{PD-KPGov}} is simply not working with this image. The basic requirements for using this licensing are not met. Msb (talk) 18:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete Works by KCNA or KCTV are not generally in public domain. These files are not fall under the "current news report." See: Commons:Deletion requests/File:KimJungUn-KCTV.png--Namoroka (talk) 06:46, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unauthenticated portrait speculated to be Walt Whitman sourced to an unidentified private collection. It doesn't look much like him, particularly not the eyes and eyebrows. No other usage online except for an msn.com article from a few months ago which credits it to Commons. Belbury (talk) 19:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•   Delete I agree. Needs to be authenticated. --RAN (talk) 13:03, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The photo is very blurry. Taivo (talk) 19:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•   Delete nothing's visible. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 20:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•   Keep. Seems to picture an unfolding historical event. Low quality can be forgiven under this context. IronGargoyle (talk) 02:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not more a user than some people claiming to be musicians 186.172.216.232 20:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see a restaurant here, but as I'm not an admin some people may say keep. 186.172.216.232 20:56, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep I was there, sitting with a friend after a mountain bike tour. Eating the kebab in front of the restaurant. You can see the kebab and the building behind. -- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 20:59, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And please log in. An IP starting several deletion requests as first edits should be blocked in my opinion. -- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 21:01, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You should also whip them. 186.172.216.232 21:08, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is provoking and trolling. No inexperienced IP starts immediately with deletion requests. Unfortunately, you lack a real, serious desire to contribute usefully to wikimedia commons. -- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 21:26, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And you decided that because I consider a file of yours out of scope?! That is really interesting. Please don't lose more of my time. 186.172.216.232 21:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•   Keep A photo of a kebab sandwich is in scope. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•   Keep The use of Wikipedia Commons also provides supporting photos for otherwise banal image motifs. These photos are required for Wiki Voyage or Openstreetmap, for example. It is then unimportant whether an image shows the entire object or just a section. Traffic signs, hiking trail signs, a practice sign on the front door or, here, a table with food and guests. -- EACC80 (talk) 09:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•   Delete. I agree that an image of a kebab sandwich is in scope, but this kebab sandwich is so oddly cropped (half the sandwich is missing, and it sits awkwardly at the side of the frame), that I cannot conceive of this being used for an educational purpose. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by Karl Gruber as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: 1 Gleiches Bild wie "File:Franz Gratzers Poststellwagen vor dem Stiftsgasthaus Heiligenkreuz (NÖ) 1887.jpg" Larger resolution, and uploader is someone else. Yann (talk) 21:47, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Created erroneously. Not used on any wiki. File:Montreal public transit icons - Transport adapté.svg is the canonical version. One of Many Tims (talk) 21:47, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Identical to File: David Ben-Gurion visit to Ashdod-Yam, 12 February 1959 05.jpg מקף־עברי (talk) 21:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Identical to File: David Ben-Gurion visit to Ashdod-Yam, 12 February 1959 04.jpg מקף־עברי (talk) 21:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Identical to File: David Ben-Gurion visit to Ashdod-Yam, 12 February 1959 06.jpg מקף־עברי (talk) 21:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Identical to File: David Ben-Gurion visit to Ashdod-Yam, 12 February 1959 02.jpg מקף־עברי (talk) 22:01, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

press photo: This file was initially tagged by GiovanniPen as no permission (No permission since) GioviPen ^{GP msg} 22:32, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1971 published photo from Turkey, would need VRT permission from the photography studio. Abzeronow (talk) 22:58, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims this as their own work, but copies from diverse sources on the web are known from many years prior to upload here.[1][2]

The photo also appers in Thomas P. Grazulis' definitive Significant Tornadoes 1680-1991: A Chronology and Analysis of Events, page 549, credited to Donald Mayden.

The only reason I'm not speedying this is, as a US image taken prior to 1989, there's a possibility it entered the public domain via non-compliance with the required formalities of the day, so I want to give anyone who wants to keep it a chance to determine that. Rlandmann (talk) 23:07, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

see EXIF: copyright holder and photographer is "Dominik Butzmann", no permission via COM:VRT DCB (talk) 13:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The image comes from the series at https://www.felixbanaszak.de/presse/service and is licensed under CC-BY-SA 2.0 there. I fixed author, source and license. Rudolph Buch (talk) 07:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]