Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/June 25

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Is this where I go to complain that 4 of the 5 entries are about wars? Stevage 14:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the text from "kidnap" to "capture" and removed "held hostage." Put simply, the Gilad Shalit also uses that terminology, and it is backed up by citations. hbdragon88 (talk) 02:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So help me out here: The complainer unilaterally makes the change on the Gilad Shalit article[1][2] before posting on WP:ERRORS [3], and then after not getting a satisfactory answer to his perference, he requests it on WP:ANI[4]. Meanwhile, he is reverted on the Gilad Shalit article with the edit summary, "rv lead changes: see sources.(also note its recieved long-term agreement".[5] I see a contradiction here, hbdragon88. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see there was a dispute about the word "hostage" discussed on Talk:Gilad Shalit#RfC: Use of the term "hostage" regarding Gilad Shalit and Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Gilad Shalit. Again, the Main Page defers to the article for accuracy or when there is disagreement, so whatever is consensus there should be reflected here. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• New articles (unused): Bombardment of Cherbourg
• Omitted: George Armstrong Custer; Mann Act; Our World (TV special); Rainbow flag (LGBT movement)
• Included: The Firebird (first appearance); Operation Ariel (first appearance); Martin and Mitchell defection (first appearance); Gilad Shalit (3rd appearance, last in 2010)
• Repeats: Korean War (3rd consecutive appearance, 11 total)

—howcheng {chat} 11:48, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Omitted: The Firebird; Operation Ariel; Korean War (ineligible—maintenance); Martin and Mitchell defection; Our World (TV special); Gilad Shalit (ineligible—maintenance); Death of Michael Jackson
• Included: Dunhuang manuscripts (first appearance); 1913 Gettysburg reunion (first appearance; 100th anniversary); Bombardment of Cherbourg (first appearance); Rainbow flag (LGBT movement) (4th appearance, last in 2011; 35th anniversary); Domenic Johansson custody case (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 05:44, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: Domenic Johansson custody case no longer eligible; replaced with Our World (TV special) (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total) —howcheng {chat} 16:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Deleted: Domenic Johansson custody case (article deleted)
• Moved to Ineligible: George Armstrong Custer/Battle of the Little Bighorn (both: maintenance)
• Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Korean War
• Omitted: Dunhuang manuscripts; 1913 Gettysburg reunion; Our World (TV special); Rainbow flag (LGBT movement)
• Included: Battle of Rio Nuevo (1658) (first appearance); Mann Act (2nd appearance, last in 2011); The Emergency (India) (first appearance); Death of Michael Jackson (2nd appearance, last in 2012)
• Repeats: Bombardment of Cherbourg (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 70th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:57, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Date is wrong in calender 2014 should be a Friday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.84.205.128 (talk) 12:13, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean the calendar on the June 25 article? Regardless, June 25, 2014 is a Wednesday. —howcheng {chat} 22:14, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Omitted: Mann Act; Bombardment of Cherbourg; Death of Michael Jackson
• Included: Mozambique (rescued from Ineligible); The Firebird (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Korean War (12th appearance, last in 2012); Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani (first appearance)
• Repeats: Battle of Rio Nuevo (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); The Emergency (India) (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 40th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 17:03, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Moved to Ineligible: Mozambique (maintenance)
• Omitted: The Firebird; Korean War; The Emergency (India); Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani
• Included: Mann Act (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Operation Ariel (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Our World (TV special) (6th appearance, last in 2013); Gilad Shalit (4th appearance, last in 2012; 10th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible)
• Repeats: Battle of Rio Nuevo (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:40, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Moved to Ineligible: Dunhuang manuscripts (maintenance); The Firebird (maintenance); The Emergency (India) (maintenance); Clinton v. City of New York (maintenance)
• Omitted: Mann Act; Operation Ariel; Gilad Shalit
• Included: Korean War (13th anniversary, last in 2015); Martin and Mitchell defection (2nd anniversary, last in 2012); Mir (9th appearance, last in 2016; normally appears on February 19; 20th anniversary); Death of Michael Jackson (3rd anniversary, last in 2014); Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani (2nd anniversary, last in 2015); Antoni Gaudí (first appearance); Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma (3rd appearance, last in 2016; previously appeared on August 27); Michel Foucault (first appearance)
• Repeats: Battle of Rio Nuevo (4th consecutive appearance, 4 total); Our World (TV special) (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total; 50th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:33, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Omitted: Korean War; Martin and Mitchell defection; Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani; Antoni Gaudí; Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma; Michel Foucault
• Included: Operation Aerial (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Rainbow flag (LGBT movement) (5th appearance, last in 2013; 40th anniversary); Area 51 (2nd appearance, last in 2009; moved from July 14); Niels, King of Denmark (first appearance); David Douglas (botanist) (first appearance); Sonia Sotomayor (first appearance)
• Repeats: Battle of Rio Nuevo (5th consecutive appearance, 5 total); Our World (TV special) (3rd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:49, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Moved to Ineligible: Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani (maintenance)
• New articles (unused): Juliana Morell
• New articles (ineligible): Raymond Leane (TFA for 2019)
• Omitted: Our World (TV special); Rainbow flag (LGBT movement); Area 51; Niels, King of Denmark; David Douglas (botanist); Sonia Sotomayor
• Included: Elena Cornaro Piscopia (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Korean War (14th appearance, last in 2017); Death of Michael Jackson (4th appearance, last in 2017; 10th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible); Giovanni Battista Riccioli (first appearance); Ebenezer Pemberton (first appearance); Margaret Anstee (first appearance)
• Repeats: Battle of Rio Nuevo (6th consecutive appearance, 6 total); Operation Aerial (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 21:33, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Howcheng, Morell belongs on 26 June? Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 06:05, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@JennyOz: How did I get that wrong? I even added the reference to the death date in the article. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 07:12, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, probably because "stuff" happens but you do do a marvellous job here! Thanks, you are appreciated! JennyOz (talk) 07:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Raymond Leane
• New articles (unused): Hillel Slovak
• New articles (ineligible): Alan Plater (maintenance)
• Omitted: Elena Cornaro Piscopia; Korean War; Death of Michael Jackson; Giovanni Battista Riccioli; Ebenezer Pemberton; Margaret Anstee
• Included: Mann Act (4th appearance, last in 2016); Martin and Mitchell defection (3rd appearance, last in 2017; 60th anniversary); Gilad Shalit (5th appearance, last in 2016); Niels, King of Denmark (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Henry H. Arnold (first appearance); Michel Foucault (2nd appearance, last in 2017)
• Repeats: Battle of Rio Nuevo (3rd consecutive appearance, 7 total); Operation Aerial (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total; 80th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 02:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• New articles (ineligible): Æthelstan Ætheling (date not cited)
• Omitted: Statehood Day (Slovenia) (stub); Battle of Rio Nuevo; Mann Act; Operation Aerial; Martin and Mitchell defection; Gilad Shalit; Niels, King of Denmark; Henry H. Arnold; Michel Foucault
• Included: Elena Cornaro Piscopia (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Bombardment of Cherbourg (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Rainbow flag (LGBT) (6th appearance, last in 2018); Area 51 (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Giovanni Battista Riccioli (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 350th anniversary); Eloísa Díaz (first appearance); Raymond Leane (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 23:31, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Deleted: 1913 Gettysburg reunion (moved to June 29)
• New articles (ineligible): Crystal Eastman (POTD for 2022)
• Omitted: Elena Cornaro Piscopia; Bombardment of Cherbourg; Rainbow flag (LGBT); Area 51; Giovanni Battista Riccioli; Eloísa Díaz; Raymond Leane
• Included: Battle of Rio Nuevo (8th appearance, last in 2020); Mann Act (5th appearance, last in 2020); Korean War (15th appearance, last in 2019); Our World (1967 TV program) (9th appearance, last in 2018); Death of Michael Jackson (5th appearance, last in 2019); David Douglas (botanist) (2nd appearance, last in 2018); George Orwell (first appearance); Hillel Slovak (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 18:21, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]