Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Resistance Tour

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. , "without prejudice against a merge should local consensus so decide."[1] NW (Talk) 04:31, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Resistance Tour

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Similar to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Seaside Rendezvous, I fail to see how a live tour, and an upcoming one at that, is notable. U-Mos (talk) 19:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Live tours are numerous on Wikipedia, and are extremely notable as a promotion tool. Plus, the article will expand much further as the tour commences and grows. Future events are also common. Absolutely no need for nomination!! Andre666 (talk) 20:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Not notable in its own right, and notability cannot be inherited from Muse or The Resistance. Also, to Andre, a few points. For one, it doesn't matter how many tours there are on Wikipedia, just because other stuff exists does not mean this is notable. Also, Wikipedia is not the place to promote something. That's what a band's website is for. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 02:39, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Definitely Keep - I can't even believe it was up for nomination. Wikipedia is for the people and articles that are of interest and hugely significant, like this one. It is an article people will want to read and get a lot of use out of - that surely is the main priority in creating an article. It's an encyclopedia's job to provide a definitive and comprehsive account of all aspects of fields of interest - so for Muse that would include albums, singles, tours, media appearances, legacy, members - everything!! The truth is that Muse are among the absolute top European bands along with the likes of Coldplay, Oasis and U2 and they all have numerous pages on their tours (and none of it could be described in the vain of "just because other stuff exists does not mean this is notable" - it is all notable and relevant) - you would be removing something of primary interest and for what?, some Wikipedia policies that are either either unknown to most or uncomprehensible and certainly very unnecessary. Also the references are accurate and many too so what is the problem? Officially Mr X (talk) 20:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My argument is actually a lack of policy. I had a look, and could not see any guidelines on gigs/tours anywhere. Therefore I concluded they should probably not have articles except in very notable circumstances. As for the bands you mentioned above, I'd say this is a case of WP:OTHERSTUFF. I am not familiar with any of these bands' presences on Wikipedia, but I just had a quick look at Oasis and I think there are far too many tour articles there as well. U-Mos (talk) 08:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For this article, having the tour dates in there is pure trivia but I think there is enough verifiable material out there to expand the article otherwise. In general where to draw the line is going to be tricky. There are some tours that are definitely notable (The Wall Tour and The Beatles' 1964 world tour come to mind) and some are definitely not. Whatever the policy is there are going to be plenty of fans who are going to try creating articles about every aspect of their favorite band, so really it comes down to which battles do you want to fight.--RDBury (talk) 11:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Seaside Rendezvous, the idea of merging that article into this one has come up. This could possibly assist the notability of both subjects. U-Mos (talk) 14:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:05, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with A Seaside Rendezvous. Namely, merge A Seaside Rendezvous into The Resistance Tour. _Met^ty 17:49, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.