Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahmoud El Banna

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Some claim to coverage existing but consensus is to delete with sources presented being rejected by other editors as being brief at best. Not a single source has been presented to show significant coverage let al9ne the multiple sources required by gng. Fenix down (talk) 22:56, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mahmoud El Banna

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Sources don't demonstrate notability Ficaia (talk) 11:48, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Ficaia (talk) 11:48, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Egypt. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:23, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A FIFA referee is notable. Article needs development. NGS ^{Shakin' All Over} 15:01, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No Great Shaker, there is no presumption of notability for referees. –dlthewave ☎ 12:14, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:04, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If players no longer get 'automatic' notability, referees certainly shouldn't. Giant Snowman 20:12, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. Alvaldi (talk) 15:32, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The article is about a FIFA referee who officiated at numerous major competitions, including the 2021 Africa Cup of Nations, CAF Champions League and CAF Confederation Cup since 2015, and the 2020 Arab Club Champions Cup Final. It definitely needs improvement, but not deletion, or otherwise we would delete most African referees' articles. Ben5218 (talk) 23:46, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What sources could be used to improve the article? We require sources showing significant coverage to have an article. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:26, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Spiderone: In this one he is praised for his decision making during a notable Casablanca derby in 2019; this one is about his selection to officiate at the 2021 Africa Cup of Nations, and this one about his appointment for an African match. All of those sources can be used in this article to improve his career section. Ben5218 (talk) 20:53, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete due to lack of SIGCOV. –dlthewave ☎ 12:14, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - there was this notability guideline proposal for referees, which was strongly opposed, therefore there is no presumption of notability for football referees regardless of how many games or what games they officiated. They are required to pass WP:GNG. Also WP:NOTINHERITED applies. 2020 Arab Club Champions Cup Final is a notable football match but that does not mean that the referee of that match automatically qualifies for a stand-alone article. El Banna needs to be notable on his own merits to qualify for an article and I can't find any evidence of that. If someone does find significant coverage in any language, please let me know. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - easily meets GNG with Arabic articles about him such as this and this. Can User:GiantSnowman review? Nfitz (talk) 22:40, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think these are significant coverage. Using Google Translate, both appear to be basic news piece which include a brief bio, that's it. Giant Snowman 07:53, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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