Jump to content

Talk:Daredevil: Born Again

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is this really a miniseries?

[edit]

I haven't seen any confirmation about it being so, and that is why I asked this. Thanks. Mattgelo (talk) 10:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is sourced in the "Creative overhaul" section as being a big "limited series", which is just used interchangeably with "miniseries". It doesn't have two seasons (which would not make it limited or a miniseries) but rather is split up into two parts. Most of Marvel Studios' MCU series are miniseries by definition unless they get additional seasons, and there is consensus to use the "miniseries" term for these series. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:04, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's confirmation that season 2 is filming soon: https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1822119928180117798?s=19
So I guess it means this show is no longer a miniseries, and a full-fledged series like the Loki series. Mattgelo (talk) 06:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think we may want to wait for further clarification on this season wording, as we have it sourced that may not be exactly used due to some contractual reasons. It may not be the case anymore, though it is something to be mindful of. Trailblazer101 (talk) 06:47, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like Feige specifically said season 1 is coming next year and season 2 is filming soon, so if there were contractual reasons for not saying season those may have been resolved now. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added this source but haven't tried to update the wording we have around the article yet. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:23, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think we should adjust the wording to be season 1 is nine episodes with season 2 in the works, and previous reports were it being 18 episodes, or classified as "parts". - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We can use this TVLine source as well if needed, as they were the site Cox told about 9 episodes being filmed so they bring it all together: Cox told TVLine that nine episodes were filmed, to premiere in March 2025 — and now comes word, via the cast’s appearance at D23, that filming on a second season will begin “soon.” - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have updated the article with this wording and source. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think that we should also consider the second season as the final one exactly like Andor (TV series). In fact this is a 18-episode limited series with 2 seasons consisting in 9 episodes each one. Tizio Incognito (talk) 08:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a source to support that? - adamstom97 (talk) 12:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course. This article specifies that the series will have two seasons. Tizio Incognito (talk) 13:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it specifies that there will only be two seasons, just that there will be at least two. And even if there are only two seasons, that would be stretching the common definition of "limited series". - adamstom97 (talk) 16:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In fact I didn't say that it should be indicated as a "limited series" but only to consider the second season as the final one when the first one will have been distribuited on March 2025. This has been done also for [[Andor (TV series)]. Tizio Incognito (talk) 16:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no source confirming the second season will be its last. You are just assuming based off of what another separate work did, which is not how Wikipedia works. Unless you have a source confirming there will only be two seasons, this is pure WP:SPECULATION, which is not allowed. Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now it's not anymore "pure WP:SPECULATION" because this article confirmed that the series will run for 2 seasons with a total of 18 episodes. Tizio Incognito (talk) 13:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That source does not confirm this. It is not a great source to begin with and it is not reporting that there will only be two seasons, it is just discussing what is known so far. - adamstom97 (talk) 13:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If it isn't a great source, why it is used in various pages? Tizio Incognito (talk) 14:01, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, just because another article does something does not mean we should do it here. - adamstom97 (talk) 14:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway also Deadline, which should be a "great source", called Daredevil: Born Again a "two-season series" in this article. Tizio Incognito (talk) 14:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The official announcement of a second season came after that article, so it is out-of-date. I still wouldn't think that supports what you want it to support. We are in WP:NOHURRY, if this is truly going to end after two seasons then we will get a more definitive source to support that claim in due time. - adamstom97 (talk) 14:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First and second seasons?

[edit]

Currently, this article refers to the episode count as two halves of nine each. However, recently at D23, Kevin Feige has referred to the first 9 episodes as "season one". Should we update this for this article as well as for the info of the series at the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Five article? AxGRvS (talk) 21:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This has already been raised above in #Is this really a miniseries? - adamstom97 (talk) 08:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Season drafts

[edit]

For those who may be interested, there are drafts for potential season articles for this series here:

Thanks, adamstom97 (talk) 14:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've also started making a version of what this main page would look like after a split in my sandbox here. The big thing I think we'll have to figure out is the "Background" and "Development" sections and if there's a little more or less that needs to stay here versus what would be on the season pages. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:08, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Moves have been made. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:40, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spitting article before season 1 premieres

[edit]

Given filming on season two is scheduled to begin on February 28 (recently added to the article with this talk post), and we have started splitting out the desired season drafts and what this main article would become above, I was thinking it might actually be beneficial to make the split ahead of the season 1 premiere. This is definitely unconventional for sure, but it makes sense in my mind for the following: the split would more than justify itself with the resulting drafts and main page; and by doing the split "now"/when filming starts (which would be allowed by WP:TVSPLIT), all the season 1 episode summaries and reception, and all that edit history, would be retained right on the season 1 article. I can't think of any other recent "event"/"high profile"/"pop culture" series that has started filming the next season before the previous even premiered, but I'm sure that may have happened. If anyone else agrees with this, I think we should prioritize shaping up all three drafts so we can make this move come the premiere on March 4. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:16, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can definitely prep for this split sooner rather than later given the unique circumstances of this production. I do not have as much time as I used to, so I cannot focus on large scale edits like this, but I agree that pairing all of the information after season two begins filming would be beneficial to avoid this article becoming unwieldy as we head into the first season's release. Trailblazer101 (talk) 00:43, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would support making the split this weekend, after filming starts for season two, so everything is ready to go when the show premieres next week. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:46, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Great. I'll make this one of my priorities in whatever time I have editing this week. Adam and I already did a good amount of the work a month or so ago, we'll just need to sync up the drafts now with all the new info we've been getting of late. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:57, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Adamstom.97: I've done a once over of your great work getting things in sync - I know the development and writing sections were a lot! I think we're going to get things split without any obvious loss of anything important. Do we want to go ahead and get these moves done tomorrow? I won't be available until the evening tomorrow to make the moves, so someone else is welcome to doing that. I've also revived the discussion at Template:Daredevil (TV series) because I think with the moves/splits, we should go ahead with the planned Template:Daredevil (TV series) and Daredevil: Born Again move/expansion. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:49, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we are in a great place with the articles and I am happy to make the split today. It would be good to have confirmation that filming has actually begun, but I'm not sure that is completely necessary considering we have the showrunner telling us exactly what day they are starting rather than just industry reports. - adamstom97 (talk) 12:38, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Moves have been made. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:40, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Daredevil:_Born_Again&oldid=1278115825"