Property talk:P7817

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Electronic library Ukrainica ID
identifier at the Electronic library Ukrainica

Associated item	Ukrainica (Q65212957)
Applicable "stated in" value	Ukrainica (Q65212957)
Has quality	case insensitive (Q55121183)
Data type	External identifier
Allowed values	(?i:ref|ukr)?0\d{6,9} (рядок від 7 до 10 цифр, який починається з нулів, можливо, з префіксом з малих чи великих букв "ref" або "ukr")
Example	Den (Q1186724) → REF0010128 Hero of Ukraine (Q1358055) → ref0011075 Dmitry Bagaley (Q4074687) → REF0000102 Galicia (Q180086) → REF0000105 Golden Gate (Q1427503) → REF0007046 Geographical encyclopedia of Ukraine (Q12094748) → 0002142 The Cathedral (Q12154124) → ukr0000013809
Source	http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/cgi-bin/ua/elib.exe?C21COM=F&I21DBN=UKRLIB&P21DBN=UKRLIB
Formatter URL	http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/ulib/item/$1
Related to country	Ukraine (Q212) (See 57 others)
See also	Nauka Ukrainy scientist ID (P7148)
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Current uses	Total 103 Main statement 92 89.3% of uses Qualifier 7 6.8% of uses Reference 4 3.9% of uses
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P7817#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P7817#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P7817#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P7817#Scope, SPARQL

Format “(?i:ref|ukr)?0\d{6,9}”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P7817#Format, SPARQL

@Mitte27: What to do w links as http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/ulib/item/UKR0002955 ? I think mask should be changed to http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/ulib/item/$1.--213.179.250.180 09:10, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• What for? If everything works now. --Mitte27 (talk) 04:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Now property have url mask http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/ulib/item/REF$1. How you'll add library ids like http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/ulib/item/UKR0002955 — ids, that do not begins with REF?--213.179.250.180 08:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• ::@Mitte27: In that condition Propetty seems as created for own porposes, — because reusability is less, to 50 % as I see.--213.179.250.180 19:15, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Русский: Вам нужно предложить новое свойство для книг на сайте http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua, посколько http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/ulib/item/UKR$1 - для книг, а http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/ulib/item/REF$1 - для людей, городов и т. д.

  --Mitte27 (talk) 06:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mitte27: This is another call for suggested in April 2020 change - to have http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/ulib/item/$1 as formatter URL (P1630), so that it would accept REFNNNN, UKRNNNN and NNNN inputs and would work for any type of items at Ukrainica (Q65212957) (which don't have full consistency of ID prefixes - see the examples). As it is, Electronic library Ukrainica ID (P7817) now works for the newspaper Den (Q1186724) - REF0010128 but doesn't work for these magazines (and other items like this): Q20066997 - ukr0011823 and Q56361155 - 0001359.

Examples (not all items have REF- prefix and not only books - but any published documents - have UKR- prefix):

• "Етнографічний вісник" magazine / Q20066997:
  • Item - ukr0011823
  • Document (issue) - ukr0011835
• "Ілюстрована Україна" magazine / Q56361155:
  • Item - 0001359;
• "День" newspaper / Den (Q1186724):
  • Item - REF0010128;
  • Document (article) ukr0011606
• "Українська суспільно-політична думка в 20 столітті" book / Q83489973:
  • Document - UKR0001669

Proposed change would take less than 50 Wikidata items to update. Flipping Switches (talk) 03:59, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Implemented proposed change myself. Now Electronic library Ukrainica ID (P7817) can be used more as a reference and for more publications as an ID section property. Corresponding Items are updated. Flipping Switches (talk) 02:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In Template:Authority control (Q3907614) of the local Wikipedias that use this parameter, http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/ulib/item/REF$1 should be updated to http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/ulib/item/$1. Flipping Switches (talk) 03:33, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]