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Furyborn (Empirium, #1)
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3 Stars
Con ● flict ● ed
Verb: Past tense
Kaylin’s feelings about this book
I could write a review recapping this evil-angel infused fantasy world, or promoting the ‘two-strong-willed-female-protagonists-hundreds-of-years-apart-with-somehow-linked-stories’ but I don’t think there’s anything new I can add to that conversation? Those elements are fun There’s some issues with execution, but nothing that ruins them?
So I’m going to focus on the three things I’m conflicted about. Aka: the things bringing this book down.
1. That Prologue
Objectively, it’s a phenomenal first chapter. If you pull it from the rest of the story and focus only on how it serves as an introduction to the characters and magic system… it’s fantastic. The writing immediately creates this high-tension environment that sucks you in. But it also, spoils almost every single plot twist the book works so hard to create.
I don’t think this kills the tension…. and I think there’s intrigue in watching something unfold. Even when you know the ending, that doesn’t mean you don’t enjoy the ride, right? But… It also really kills all the impact of those ‘twists?’ While the narrative and characters are screaming and all:
I’m sitting there like:
And I can’t help but wonder how I would have reacted if the story had time to build and slowly twist and turn?
2. That Bi Rep
This is a really tricky conversation. Because I don’t ever want to police someone’s sexuality. I don’t want to come across like I’m gatekeeping or like I get to decide what’s ‘bi-enough.’ But advertising this book as “bisexual rep” seems like a stretch?
First, a woman who identifies as bi and is dating a man is still bi. Period. Send Tweet.
But neither woman seems to identify that way? They never discuss their sexuality nor is it ever really mentioned on the page. Instead what we are left with is a sort of vague “well they hinted about being with a woman before… so I guess we are supposed to interpret that as them being somewhere on the bi-spectrum?”
I mean that literally. For both characters there is only one line of text each that hints towards the MC’s not being strictly hetero.
I don’t believe labels are necessary for representation. But I also don’t believe every woman who references finding another woman attractive would consider themselves bisexual?
The whole thing just feels messy. Because while it could have opened so many important, relevant discussions… it just stays muddled and unclear instead? And sometimes sexuality is messy and unclear, that’s okay. But maybe… acknowledge it?
But also… yay for diversity in YA? And it could be said that showing two characters who don’t label themselves but lie somewhere on the spectrum… could be really progressive? (Not in my opinion, because again… it’s never acknowledged and just makes the narrative look really unaware??)
So. Make up your own mind. But, as a bisexual woman, when looking for stories that make me feel seen and understood… this isn’t one I’d reach for.
3. The SexyTimes
Brace yourself ya’ll. There’s explicit sex in this. Frankly, I’m kind of surprised we’re still having this conversation? Not having sex is normal BUT so is having sex. This normalized sex and discussed it as a real, tangible thing. It’s also the first book I’ve seen where female friends actually have a conversation about birth control?? Which is just SO important.
So with as hard as this worked to normalize sex and show that empowered women can STILL be sexual if they choose… why was the sex literally ground-shaking. Why was the actual sex painted like some huge-grand-life-changing event??
In Conclusion:
See earlier definition. I still don’t know, dude. This was stuffed with a lot of ideas and conversations. Some work… some just… don’t.
Con ● flict ● ed
Verb: Past tense
Kaylin’s feelings about this book
I could write a review recapping this evil-angel infused fantasy world, or promoting the ‘two-strong-willed-female-protagonists-hundreds-of-years-apart-with-somehow-linked-stories’ but I don’t think there’s anything new I can add to that conversation? Those elements are fun There’s some issues with execution, but nothing that ruins them?
So I’m going to focus on the three things I’m conflicted about. Aka: the things bringing this book down.
1. That Prologue
Objectively, it’s a phenomenal first chapter. If you pull it from the rest of the story and focus only on how it serves as an introduction to the characters and magic system… it’s fantastic. The writing immediately creates this high-tension environment that sucks you in. But it also, spoils almost every single plot twist the book works so hard to create.
I don’t think this kills the tension…. and I think there’s intrigue in watching something unfold. Even when you know the ending, that doesn’t mean you don’t enjoy the ride, right? But… It also really kills all the impact of those ‘twists?’ While the narrative and characters are screaming and all:
I’m sitting there like:
And I can’t help but wonder how I would have reacted if the story had time to build and slowly twist and turn?
2. That Bi Rep
This is a really tricky conversation. Because I don’t ever want to police someone’s sexuality. I don’t want to come across like I’m gatekeeping or like I get to decide what’s ‘bi-enough.’ But advertising this book as “bisexual rep” seems like a stretch?
First, a woman who identifies as bi and is dating a man is still bi. Period. Send Tweet.
But neither woman seems to identify that way? They never discuss their sexuality nor is it ever really mentioned on the page. Instead what we are left with is a sort of vague “well they hinted about being with a woman before… so I guess we are supposed to interpret that as them being somewhere on the bi-spectrum?”
I mean that literally. For both characters there is only one line of text each that hints towards the MC’s not being strictly hetero.
I don’t believe labels are necessary for representation. But I also don’t believe every woman who references finding another woman attractive would consider themselves bisexual?
The whole thing just feels messy. Because while it could have opened so many important, relevant discussions… it just stays muddled and unclear instead? And sometimes sexuality is messy and unclear, that’s okay. But maybe… acknowledge it?
But also… yay for diversity in YA? And it could be said that showing two characters who don’t label themselves but lie somewhere on the spectrum… could be really progressive? (Not in my opinion, because again… it’s never acknowledged and just makes the narrative look really unaware??)
So. Make up your own mind. But, as a bisexual woman, when looking for stories that make me feel seen and understood… this isn’t one I’d reach for.
3. The SexyTimes
Brace yourself ya’ll. There’s explicit sex in this. Frankly, I’m kind of surprised we’re still having this conversation? Not having sex is normal BUT so is having sex. This normalized sex and discussed it as a real, tangible thing. It’s also the first book I’ve seen where female friends actually have a conversation about birth control?? Which is just SO important.
So with as hard as this worked to normalize sex and show that empowered women can STILL be sexual if they choose… why was the sex literally ground-shaking. Why was the actual sex painted like some huge-grand-life-changing event??
In Conclusion:
See earlier definition. I still don’t know, dude. This was stuffed with a lot of ideas and conversations. Some work… some just… don’t.
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Reading Progress
January 27, 2018
– Shelved
January 27, 2018
– Shelved as:
anticipated-releases
May 22, 2018
– Shelved as:
to-read
July 10, 2018
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Started Reading
July 17, 2018
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16.0%
"So far both leads are spitfires who take no shit... I'm here for it, honestly"
July 22, 2018
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60.0%
"Ludivine is honestly the best and can we please normal discussions of birth control between female friends??"
July 24, 2018
– Shelved as:
new-adult
July 24, 2018
– Shelved as:
fantasy
July 24, 2018
– Shelved as:
almost-great
July 24, 2018
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Finished Reading
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Jul 12, 2018 11:36AM
I found a lot of issues with this one but I hope you enjoy it 10x more than me! :)
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Bhavik wrote: "I found a lot of issues with this one but I hope you enjoy it 10x more than me! :)"
Thank you, Bhavik!!
Thank you, Bhavik!!
Camile wrote: "I'm gonna start a buddy read for this tomorrow haha"
Ooh, I'll be stalking your updates, and hope we all love it!
Ooh, I'll be stalking your updates, and hope we all love it!
Haha likewise. I really hope we do, it's big book so it'd better be worth our time. I've heard mixed things about it too, so I don't know what to expect.
What did you think of the bi rep? I know there are a lot of very polarizing opinions on whether or not this should have been marketed as a "bisexual fantasy" book.
destiny wrote: "What did you think of the bi rep? I know there are a lot of very polarizing opinions on whether or not this should have been marketed as a "bisexual fantasy" book."
I have VERY mixed feelings on the subject. It’s very strange to me that this was marketed as a bisexual fantasy? Not that an LGBT+ character’s story needs to revolve around their identity, but Rielle seems to flirt with another girl briefly in one scene and that’s kind of the gist of it? (For her) But I don’t like insulating that there’s some sort of measurement or that a character has to be “bi enough.” I’ve also seen reviews insulating that the rep shouldn’t count because both mains seem to pursue relationships with men... which is just such a gross way of thinking.
So I guess i’m still trying to process it? What did you think?
I have VERY mixed feelings on the subject. It’s very strange to me that this was marketed as a bisexual fantasy? Not that an LGBT+ character’s story needs to revolve around their identity, but Rielle seems to flirt with another girl briefly in one scene and that’s kind of the gist of it? (For her) But I don’t like insulating that there’s some sort of measurement or that a character has to be “bi enough.” I’ve also seen reviews insulating that the rep shouldn’t count because both mains seem to pursue relationships with men... which is just such a gross way of thinking.
So I guess i’m still trying to process it? What did you think?
Kaylin wrote: "destiny wrote: "What did you think of the bi rep? I know there are a lot of very polarizing opinions on whether or not this should have been marketed as a "bisexual fantasy" book."
I have VERY mix..."
Honestly, all of this is spot on for how I felt. On the one hand, a bi character doesn't have to be with someone of the same sex to "count" as bi, but on the other hand, I feel like we see so much poorly done queer rep that I get a little testy when I wonder sometimes, "Did the author genuinely see this character as bisexual, or were they trying to make an extra buck off of the queer community?" I hate to say that, but I can't help worrying sometimes, you know? I have to say, my feelings towards the author in general improved drastically after reading her upcoming release, Sawkill Girls, so I'm much more apt to give her credit now than I feel like I would've been if you'd asked me this a month ago.
I have VERY mix..."
Honestly, all of this is spot on for how I felt. On the one hand, a bi character doesn't have to be with someone of the same sex to "count" as bi, but on the other hand, I feel like we see so much poorly done queer rep that I get a little testy when I wonder sometimes, "Did the author genuinely see this character as bisexual, or were they trying to make an extra buck off of the queer community?" I hate to say that, but I can't help worrying sometimes, you know? I have to say, my feelings towards the author in general improved drastically after reading her upcoming release, Sawkill Girls, so I'm much more apt to give her credit now than I feel like I would've been if you'd asked me this a month ago.
destiny wrote: "Kaylin wrote: "destiny wrote: "What did you think of the bi rep? I know there are a lot of very polarizing opinions on whether or not this should have been marketed as a "bisexual fantasy" book."
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I have admit I had those same thoughts while reading. I still haven't sorted all my feelings out about this one, but now I'm interested in more of her works! I'm interested to see if this book accurately reflects her style/themes.
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I have admit I had those same thoughts while reading. I still haven't sorted all my feelings out about this one, but now I'm interested in more of her works! I'm interested to see if this book accurately reflects her style/themes.
I put this book aside after reading around 120 pages. I plan on starting over because I do want to give it another shot, but the main thing that bothers me is that Rielle and Eliana seem to have similar “voices” in their POV chapters. Another thing that bothers me more than that is the exciting 1,000 years apart that turns out not to be that exciting at all IMO. For two branching storylines to be over a thousand years apart you would think the world would have changed a LOT, right? Really the only thing I noticed was that there were statues of Rielle and stuff and history books about her and that was basically it. The world didn’t really change at all, no towns built, nothing? Idk, it seems the author really overlooked that one. But I am really looking forward to trying it again and also her new Sawkill Girls too! :)
Heather wrote: "I put this book aside after reading around 120 pages. I plan on starting over because I do want to give it another shot, but the main thing that bothers me is that Rielle and Eliana seem to have si..."
Very valid points!! Personally, I thought Rielle and Eliana’s voices started off similar and got stronger the more the book progressed. I completely agree about the worlds though. 1000 years was way too much time for it to be completely the same.
Very valid points!! Personally, I thought Rielle and Eliana’s voices started off similar and got stronger the more the book progressed. I completely agree about the worlds though. 1000 years was way too much time for it to be completely the same.