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The Magicians (The Magicians, #1)
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Having never heard of Lev Grossman I picked up two of his novels at the thrift store, basing solely on the premises from the back covers - Codex and The Magicians. I decided to read The Magicians first, because Grossman's first two books have both been bombs - Warp vanished without a trace, and Codex received largely negative reviews. But The Magicians was a huge success, so it couldn't be all that bad, right? After my admiration for Peter Straub's Shadowland (which deals with roughly the same topic, but is a far, far superior work) I was all set-up and full of expectations.
The Magicians failed to meet any of them. I found this novel to be largely tedious and uninteresting. Here are several reasons why:
1)The incredible amount of exposition and absolute lack of detail. Grossman spends page after page TELLING how his hero, Quentin, is learning magic but he never shows it. Part of the incredible allure of fantasy novels is the detailed construction of alternate worlds/universes; there's nothing like that here. Everything is extremely flat and without any flair of ,let's say, Hogwarts; where the reader can see for himself how unique magic really is - in vivid detail.
Even the Fillory books - fantasy novels which Quentin is a fan of - are special because Grossman tells us they are special. It's as he distrusted his readers and had to tell them everything - hence the reader plods on, and never cares about the characters and setting whose features and qualities are forced upon him.
2) The book is extremely DERIVATIVE. It's as if after the failure of his first two novels Grossman decided to "borrow" the tropes of well known fantasy works (most notably Harry Potter and Narnia) and base his story around other people's accomplishments. Consider:
A group of teenagers receive invitations to attend a school of magic, which is housed in a decaying gohtic castle, located just a few hours from a major metropolitan area. The castle is hiddent from public view by powerfull illusion spells and is governed by a childlike, yet powerful white bearded authority figure, who also happens to have a magical map showing where anyone is at any given moment. The process of learning magic turns out to be mostly tedious memorizing incantations and learning proper inflection. The school adapts a British educational system and is full of quirky effects, like disappearing doors.
The Fillory is a magical land entered through a clock where "Sons and Daughters of Earth" fight evil to become the royalty.
How is it possible to steal so many ideas and not get sued?
3) The book is full of filler. Grossman clammed 5 years of magical school (4 for some) and then squeezed adventures after the school (which include travelling into the world of Fillory) on 400 pages...most of which consist of students swearing, having sex, drinking booze and acting like pricks Grossman devised them to be. But everything is touched only on the surface; there's simply no room for anything to develop. Too much is trying to go on on a space too small - and that's why there's so little detail and so much exposition. It's almost as if we were presented with a summary of Quentin's struggle through magical school and his life after it.
4)The work is extremely self-indulgent. Grossman comes from an academic family and is a Harvard alumni (where he got a degree in comparative literature), currently holding a job of a reviewer at TIME magazine.
This is not a man with an original vision (how many original ideas are there in The Magicians andyway? I counted two) who chose to express it on paper; we are unfortunatelly dealing with the case of a pretentious academic who considers himself above the genre he chose to write in, and who has produced a sour and joyless (and ultimately pointless) exercise in this very genre, designed especially for people just like him. Since Less Than Zero already came out 20 years ago he decided to use storylines and themes from famous fantasy works to sell his product and disguise his lack of originality.
Much of Fantasy literature is didactic in nature. Young people can learn how to be a better human being, how to be brave in face of grave danger, to appreciate frienship and learn to be selfless when the situation requires it.
There is nothing to learn in The Magicians. While the disilusion in Less Than Zero worked, it doesn't work here because the protagonist is a self-pityng, self-oriented miserable teenager simply because Grossman forced him to be one. Quentin is not happy before enrolling at magical school, he's not happy at the school and he's not happy after the school. He hooks up with the hot girl, but is not happy with her so she sleeps with someone else - then he's even more not happy. Quentin starts out as a selfish bastard, migrates into an even more selfish bastard and ends up after four hundred pages - yeah, you guessed it - as a selfish bastard. Grossman never once allowes Quentin to take his head out of his (Quentin's, not Grossman's) ass to see the wonder he was allowed to experience, but instead forces him to be a smug and miserable selfish asshole to the very end, to illustrate his disilussion with the magical world because he decided that the protagonist will be disilusioned, no matter what he will see there (To his credit: he didn't even try to present much). In Grossman's world (both fantasy and magical) everything is forced upon the reader, including his message - it's rather simple, but the reader is forced to undergo great pains to arrive at the conclusion that is painfully obvious from the very beginning.
If you want to be bored and depressed simply because the author bores you and tells you to be depressed, you might get something from The Magicians. If you're looking for "realistic" and "adult" protagonists who are said to posess these qualities simply because they are all selfish, drink alcohol and swear and have sex this might be your thing. If you think that the novel will offer an unique take on the loss of innocence in a magical world, you might be disappointed - our heroes could have been plumbers and hygiene technicians, and Grossman still would ram his point home. (THERE IS NO HOPE, GET IT? NONE, ZERO, NADA, WHY? BECAUSE I SAID SO!)
This is a classic case of a pretentious navel-gazer, completely self-indulgent which smacks the reader in the face with its hopelesness and whining again and again and again. This emperor is naked as jay, and offers cliched insights masquerading as deeper truths covered by ideas of other (and better) authors. These insights are explored as superficially as possible, and in an adult way - with lots of booze, sex and swearing - so I sense some BIG PRIZE lurking around the corner, waiting for this very novel. After all, adults give these awards.
Kids know better.
The Magicians failed to meet any of them. I found this novel to be largely tedious and uninteresting. Here are several reasons why:
1)The incredible amount of exposition and absolute lack of detail. Grossman spends page after page TELLING how his hero, Quentin, is learning magic but he never shows it. Part of the incredible allure of fantasy novels is the detailed construction of alternate worlds/universes; there's nothing like that here. Everything is extremely flat and without any flair of ,let's say, Hogwarts; where the reader can see for himself how unique magic really is - in vivid detail.
Even the Fillory books - fantasy novels which Quentin is a fan of - are special because Grossman tells us they are special. It's as he distrusted his readers and had to tell them everything - hence the reader plods on, and never cares about the characters and setting whose features and qualities are forced upon him.
2) The book is extremely DERIVATIVE. It's as if after the failure of his first two novels Grossman decided to "borrow" the tropes of well known fantasy works (most notably Harry Potter and Narnia) and base his story around other people's accomplishments. Consider:
A group of teenagers receive invitations to attend a school of magic, which is housed in a decaying gohtic castle, located just a few hours from a major metropolitan area. The castle is hiddent from public view by powerfull illusion spells and is governed by a childlike, yet powerful white bearded authority figure, who also happens to have a magical map showing where anyone is at any given moment. The process of learning magic turns out to be mostly tedious memorizing incantations and learning proper inflection. The school adapts a British educational system and is full of quirky effects, like disappearing doors.
The Fillory is a magical land entered through a clock where "Sons and Daughters of Earth" fight evil to become the royalty.
How is it possible to steal so many ideas and not get sued?
3) The book is full of filler. Grossman clammed 5 years of magical school (4 for some) and then squeezed adventures after the school (which include travelling into the world of Fillory) on 400 pages...most of which consist of students swearing, having sex, drinking booze and acting like pricks Grossman devised them to be. But everything is touched only on the surface; there's simply no room for anything to develop. Too much is trying to go on on a space too small - and that's why there's so little detail and so much exposition. It's almost as if we were presented with a summary of Quentin's struggle through magical school and his life after it.
4)The work is extremely self-indulgent. Grossman comes from an academic family and is a Harvard alumni (where he got a degree in comparative literature), currently holding a job of a reviewer at TIME magazine.
This is not a man with an original vision (how many original ideas are there in The Magicians andyway? I counted two) who chose to express it on paper; we are unfortunatelly dealing with the case of a pretentious academic who considers himself above the genre he chose to write in, and who has produced a sour and joyless (and ultimately pointless) exercise in this very genre, designed especially for people just like him. Since Less Than Zero already came out 20 years ago he decided to use storylines and themes from famous fantasy works to sell his product and disguise his lack of originality.
Much of Fantasy literature is didactic in nature. Young people can learn how to be a better human being, how to be brave in face of grave danger, to appreciate frienship and learn to be selfless when the situation requires it.
There is nothing to learn in The Magicians. While the disilusion in Less Than Zero worked, it doesn't work here because the protagonist is a self-pityng, self-oriented miserable teenager simply because Grossman forced him to be one. Quentin is not happy before enrolling at magical school, he's not happy at the school and he's not happy after the school. He hooks up with the hot girl, but is not happy with her so she sleeps with someone else - then he's even more not happy. Quentin starts out as a selfish bastard, migrates into an even more selfish bastard and ends up after four hundred pages - yeah, you guessed it - as a selfish bastard. Grossman never once allowes Quentin to take his head out of his (Quentin's, not Grossman's) ass to see the wonder he was allowed to experience, but instead forces him to be a smug and miserable selfish asshole to the very end, to illustrate his disilussion with the magical world because he decided that the protagonist will be disilusioned, no matter what he will see there (To his credit: he didn't even try to present much). In Grossman's world (both fantasy and magical) everything is forced upon the reader, including his message - it's rather simple, but the reader is forced to undergo great pains to arrive at the conclusion that is painfully obvious from the very beginning.
If you want to be bored and depressed simply because the author bores you and tells you to be depressed, you might get something from The Magicians. If you're looking for "realistic" and "adult" protagonists who are said to posess these qualities simply because they are all selfish, drink alcohol and swear and have sex this might be your thing. If you think that the novel will offer an unique take on the loss of innocence in a magical world, you might be disappointed - our heroes could have been plumbers and hygiene technicians, and Grossman still would ram his point home. (THERE IS NO HOPE, GET IT? NONE, ZERO, NADA, WHY? BECAUSE I SAID SO!)
This is a classic case of a pretentious navel-gazer, completely self-indulgent which smacks the reader in the face with its hopelesness and whining again and again and again. This emperor is naked as jay, and offers cliched insights masquerading as deeper truths covered by ideas of other (and better) authors. These insights are explored as superficially as possible, and in an adult way - with lots of booze, sex and swearing - so I sense some BIG PRIZE lurking around the corner, waiting for this very novel. After all, adults give these awards.
Kids know better.
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make sure to write a review of this one mace, i'm really curious to what you think of it.
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great review, many interesting points. i did enjoy parts of The Magicians, but those parts had very little to do with the protagonist's miserable and boring personality. there were a few sequences that i found to be pretty thrilling. the attack of the Beast on the classroom was awesome...the big 'adventure' underground was well-done (although annoyingly truncated)...the final appearance of the protagonists at the end was nifty.
however i would say that the use of Narnia & Potter was entirely intentional. that made it feel less derivative to me because it was clearly so purposeful. i'm not sure if the use of themes from Less Than Zero was intentional because those themes are in a way timeless, but i agree that use of those themes (and how they reminded me too much of Ellis) is exactly what makes the book to be at-times nauseatingly pretentious and aggravating.
wow, i just wrote more about The Magicians than i did on my original review! which is sorta funny when considering how thin the book is - not sure if it deserves two reviews from me.
however i would say that the use of Narnia & Potter was entirely intentional. that made it feel less derivative to me because it was clearly so purposeful. i'm not sure if the use of themes from Less Than Zero was intentional because those themes are in a way timeless, but i agree that use of those themes (and how they reminded me too much of Ellis) is exactly what makes the book to be at-times nauseatingly pretentious and aggravating.
wow, i just wrote more about The Magicians than i did on my original review! which is sorta funny when considering how thin the book is - not sure if it deserves two reviews from me.
Becky wrote: "Whew. I'll be avoiding this one then. Well written review, Maciek. As usual. :)"
Thank you, Becky:) You're not missing anything by not reading this.
mark wrote: "great review, many interesting points. i did enjoy parts of The Magicians, but those parts had very little to do with the protagonist's miserable and boring personality. there were a few sequences ..."
Thanks Mark. I enjoyed a couple of sequences too - the goose flight in particular. It was neat.
About the similarities too Narnia and Potter - it's pretty obvious that the Fillory books are based on The Chronicles of Narnia, and Brakebills is based on Hogwarts - BUT they offer absolutely no new spin on these two. Instead, what drives the plot forward is Quentin's everpresent dissatisfaction - handsome, brillian Quentin is selected as one of the most talented students to enroll into a magic school, where he is obviously above other students. He falls in love with a beautiful talented woman, and at the end literally reaches something that no man has ever reached - AND HE'S ALWAYS BITCHING ABOUT IT. He's like the girl who shouted at her dad because the Porshe he gave her as her birthday present was red, not blue.
Nothing Grossman offers is original, even his take on this theme. His heroes are disillusioned and misantrophic because he forced them to be, and these themes are better adressed elsewhere in literature. Think Less Than Zero, American Psycho by Ellis. Even Philip Larkin explored this theme with way more grace in his poem "Born Yesterday". Does Narnia and Potter become more "real" when you fill them with miserable, pathetic and whining teenagers who do little aside drinking booze, swearing and having sex?
I don't think so - and that's why I don't care about this book.
Thank you, Becky:) You're not missing anything by not reading this.
mark wrote: "great review, many interesting points. i did enjoy parts of The Magicians, but those parts had very little to do with the protagonist's miserable and boring personality. there were a few sequences ..."
Thanks Mark. I enjoyed a couple of sequences too - the goose flight in particular. It was neat.
About the similarities too Narnia and Potter - it's pretty obvious that the Fillory books are based on The Chronicles of Narnia, and Brakebills is based on Hogwarts - BUT they offer absolutely no new spin on these two. Instead, what drives the plot forward is Quentin's everpresent dissatisfaction - handsome, brillian Quentin is selected as one of the most talented students to enroll into a magic school, where he is obviously above other students. He falls in love with a beautiful talented woman, and at the end literally reaches something that no man has ever reached - AND HE'S ALWAYS BITCHING ABOUT IT. He's like the girl who shouted at her dad because the Porshe he gave her as her birthday present was red, not blue.
Nothing Grossman offers is original, even his take on this theme. His heroes are disillusioned and misantrophic because he forced them to be, and these themes are better adressed elsewhere in literature. Think Less Than Zero, American Psycho by Ellis. Even Philip Larkin explored this theme with way more grace in his poem "Born Yesterday". Does Narnia and Potter become more "real" when you fill them with miserable, pathetic and whining teenagers who do little aside drinking booze, swearing and having sex?
I don't think so - and that's why I don't care about this book.
Ouch! What a swingeing review! :P It's been a while since I read a review of yours where you were so pissed off with the author and his book!
Since the third book of this series has come out I thought I would check out the first volume but, from your review, I'm a bit reluctant to bother reading it. Hmmm. Maybe if I see it in a secondhand bookshop....
Since the third book of this series has come out I thought I would check out the first volume but, from your review, I'm a bit reluctant to bother reading it. Hmmm. Maybe if I see it in a secondhand bookshop....
Haha, well it was a while ago! I do remember being horribly disappointed because of the insufferable protagonist and the fact that the novel did nothing to expand the genre, but only harped on already existing fantasy tropes. Get it from the library!
Haha, true. I do have both this and Codex somewhere and can send them to you if you reallly want to read them...:)
Great Scot! I LOVE this review so much. Suffering through as much of the book as I did is now almost worth it simply because it allows me to fully appreciate this review.
Great Scot! I LOVE this review so much. Suffering through as much of the book as I did is now almost worth it simply because it allows me to fully appreciate this review.
Thank you, Katherine! Sorry you had to suffer through this book as well - never understood the popularity and hype around it. Oh well, at least it's over!
Oh my gosh, what a great review! Maciek, you expressed every frustration I felt while drudging through this book. It was a painful read, and I hope Grossman has no pretenses about The Magicians being in the same high class as the Harry Potter & Narnia books. Side note: I almost put the book down after the fox sex scene. Couldn’t wrap my mind around that one.
Thank you very much, Lauren! It was a painful read indeed. I now feel a bit bad for sending the book to my friend Greg (in my defense he wanted to read it. LOL!
I don't think he does, but I know he has written other books with the same characters and I think we'd both do better to avoid them altogether - fox sex or not, I wouldn't be able to stand any more whining1
I don't think he does, but I know he has written other books with the same characters and I think we'd both do better to avoid them altogether - fox sex or not, I wouldn't be able to stand any more whining1
:O I have to admit. I haven't read it yet! But when I do, it does sound like I'll end up being disappointed by it (unless, with such low expectations, I'll be pleasantly surprised that it wasn't as bad as I thought! :D)
We'll see. :) And don't worry if I'm not crazy about the book in the end. I haven't read anything by Grossman before so it will at least be an introduction to that author.
Becky wrote: "It was not a great intro for me. I hated this book so much."
Would it be better to read Codex instead? That's another Grossman book I have (courtesy of Maciek).
Would it be better to read Codex instead? That's another Grossman book I have (courtesy of Maciek).
Greg wrote: "Becky wrote: "It was not a great intro for me. I hated this book so much."
Would it be better to read Codex instead? That's another Grossman book I have (courtesy of Maciek)."
That is a simpler book which might actually be the better of the two - meaning it is less likely to be as upsetting as this one (though the ending is too sudden IMHO and leaves plenty to be desired). Might be best to read both and tell us what you think - after all, some readers loved this book. :)
Would it be better to read Codex instead? That's another Grossman book I have (courtesy of Maciek)."
That is a simpler book which might actually be the better of the two - meaning it is less likely to be as upsetting as this one (though the ending is too sudden IMHO and leaves plenty to be desired). Might be best to read both and tell us what you think - after all, some readers loved this book. :)
It might not be the best time to say this (:P) but I started reading The Magicians a few days ago. While it shares an issue I had with the first volume of Death Note: Black Edition, Vol. 1, I'm enjoying the book so far. That said, somebody else who read it recently described it as depressing. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
Greg, People either love or hate this book - I hope you'll end up being in the former camp. Let me know how you liked it! :)
And here I thought I was alone in my one star review. Glad to see someone else felt the same way that I did. Your review is a lot more eloquent than mine. ;) lol
Stepheny(Annie Wilkes) wrote: "And here I thought I was alone in my one star review. Glad to see someone else felt the same way that I did. Your review is a lot more eloquent than mine. ;) lol"
Thank you, Stepheny! :) I was motivated to express my criticism of this book and I'm sorry you felt the same way about it that I did. Oh well - can't win them all!
Thank you, Stepheny! :) I was motivated to express my criticism of this book and I'm sorry you felt the same way about it that I did. Oh well - can't win them all!
Miriam wrote: "Right, right, sorry. Greg, lots of people think it's brilliant!"
Haha! 5 stars for effort!
Haha! 5 stars for effort!
Somebody described the book to me as a dark satire of Harry Potter and Narnia. While I read the Narnia series as a kid, I never read the Potter tomes. I'm wondering whether this might affect my reading of the book.
Miriam wrote: "I found it annoying rather than depressing."
Maciek wrote: "Shhh Miriam, don't spoil it for Greg! ;)"
Miriam wrote: "Right, right, sorry. Greg, lots of people think it's brilliant!"
LOL It'll be fun to see which camp I'll fall into then! :P
Miriam wrote: "I found it annoying rather than depressing."
Maciek wrote: "Shhh Miriam, don't spoil it for Greg! ;)"
Miriam wrote: "Right, right, sorry. Greg, lots of people think it's brilliant!"
LOL It'll be fun to see which camp I'll fall into then! :P
This is what my friends in the UK and Australia call a "marmite book" - the reactions tend to be extreme. (I gave it three stars but that was partly because I found it a very hard book to rate. I actually liked best the period in which he was magically unable to speak.)
Susanna - Censored by GoodReads wrote: "This is what my friends in the UK and Australia call a "marmite book" - the reactions tend to be extreme. (I gave it three stars but that was partly because I found it a very hard book to rate. I a..."
Aaaarghhh! Marmite! Yuck! (You chose a very good example, Susanna!)
Aaaarghhh! Marmite! Yuck! (You chose a very good example, Susanna!)
As I am a big fan of the series it was difficult to find the main points of the story so... lackluster. Things that were such a big deal (like the sexual abuse) were mentioned in passant. It remembered me novels that I read about college life were everything is drugs, egotism, quiet despair and lack of sense. The whole going to fillory is completely anticlimatic. Scenes simply don´t add up to a plot. It is so strange to tell people that a series from sifi channel can be so superior to the original work