22:05:14<@AnilSerifoglu>  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to EduCorps Meeting 68
22:23:31<@AnilSerifoglu>  Okay, here comes the old stuff:
22:23:38<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Camba-Fruit
22:23:42<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=9081212
22:23:48<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Camba-Fruit
22:23:49<@AnilSerifoglu>  No change
22:23:51<@AnilSerifoglu>  Kill
22:23:53<@Fan26>  Kill
22:23:53<@Tommy-Macaroni>  kill
22:23:54<@Zed42>  Kill
22:23:56<@Ayrehead02>  Kill
22:24:10<@Toprawa>  (Don't wait on me, please)
22:24:11<@spookly>  Kill
22:24:13<@Toprawa>  I'll be participating in and out
22:24:13<@AnilSerifoglu>  Camba-Fruit killed
22:24:27<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Stellar_Vista
22:24:33<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=9081213
22:24:39<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Stellar_Vista
22:24:40<@AnilSerifoglu>  Just a minor bot fix
22:24:45<@AnilSerifoglu>  Kill
22:24:47<@Zed42>  Kill
22:24:48<@Fan26>  Kill
22:24:52<@Tommy-Macaroni>  kill
22:24:59<@Ayrehead02>  Kill
22:25:00<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Ooh, a Tommy-bot cameo
22:25:36<@spookly>  Kill
22:25:37<@AnilSerifoglu>  Stellar Vista killed
22:25:49<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Acid-beet
22:25:54<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=9081214
22:25:58<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Acid-beet
22:26:07<@AnilSerifoglu>  Again, just our little TommyBot
22:26:08<@AnilSerifoglu>  Kill
22:26:10<@Zed42>  kill
22:26:10<@Ayrehead02>  Kill
22:26:14<@Fan26>  Kill
22:26:14<@Tommy-Macaroni>  aww
22:26:15<@Tommy-Macaroni>  kill
22:26:27<@spookly>  Kill
22:26:33<@AnilSerifoglu>  Acid-beet killed
22:26:43<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Usma%27s_Padawan
22:26:46<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=9081216
22:26:55<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Usma%27s_Padawan
22:26:58<@AnilSerifoglu>  I believe all issues are now fixed
22:27:05<@AnilSerifoglu>  Keep
22:27:07<@Fan26>  Keep
22:27:20<@spookly>  Keep
22:27:27<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Keep
22:27:33<@Ayrehead02>  Keep
22:27:39<@Zed42>  keep
22:27:50<@AnilSerifoglu>  Usma's Padawan kept
22:27:57<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_air_taxi_driver_droid
22:28:00<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=9081217
22:28:04<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Unidentified_air_taxi_driver_droid
22:28:06<@AnilSerifoglu>  No change
22:28:08<@AnilSerifoglu>  Kill
22:28:08<@Zed42>  kill
22:28:11<@spookly>  Kill
22:28:12<@Tommy-Macaroni>  kill
22:28:15<@Fan26>  Kill
22:28:21<@Ayrehead02>  Kill
22:28:25<@AnilSerifoglu>  Unidentified air taxi driver droid killed
22:28:34<@AnilSerifoglu>  Moving on to the new stuff
22:28:41<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_Human_Jedi_(Daluuj)
22:28:48<@AnilSerifoglu>  Total body count 147, so remove the singular sectioning; remove extraneous info in BTS; source the release date. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 01:31, May 29, 2020 (UTC)
22:28:49<@AnilSerifoglu>  That 137 ABY date needs a manual reference note. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 17:28, May 29, 2020 (UTC)
22:28:56<@AnilSerifoglu>  Probe
22:28:59<@Ayrehead02>  Wait wait wait
22:29:00<@Fan26>  Probe
22:29:04<@Ayrehead02>  Hold on sorry
22:29:25<@Ayrehead02>  I was distracted messaging Shay, but Acid-beet was meant to have no changes
22:29:46<@Ayrehead02>  I checked the audio-book and it isn't mentioned
22:29:54<@Ayrehead02>  Sorry, that's my bad everyone
22:30:26<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Okay, change my vote to keep then
22:30:33<@AnilSerifoglu>  Hmm, so should we vote again for Acid-beet?
22:30:39<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Yeah, let's
22:30:42<@AnilSerifoglu>  Very well, keep
22:30:48<@Fan26>  Keep acid-beet
22:30:49<@Tommy-Macaroni>  keep
22:30:50<@Zed42>  If there are no other issues, which seems to be the case, then keep
22:30:58<@spookly>  Keep, then
22:31:11<@Ayrehead02>  Keep
22:31:23<@AnilSerifoglu>  Acid-beet kept
22:31:39<@AnilSerifoglu>  So about Unidentified Human Jedi (Daluuj)
22:31:43<@AnilSerifoglu>  Probe
22:31:48<@Tommy-Macaroni>  probe
22:31:50<@Ayrehead02>  Sorry again for missing that, although it's a good reminder to actually check the objections even if there's no changes
22:31:51<@Ayrehead02>  Probe
22:31:56<@Fan26>  Probe
22:32:02<@spookly>  Probe
22:32:08<@Zed42>  probe
22:32:12<@AnilSerifoglu>  No problem, Ayre
22:32:19<@AnilSerifoglu>  Unidentified Human Jedi (Daluuj) probed
22:32:28<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Daakman_Barrek%27s_first_Padawan
22:32:34<@AnilSerifoglu>  Jedi Order and Galactic Republic are infobox exclusive.
22:32:38<@AnilSerifoglu>  Death year to be worked into article.
22:32:38<@AnilSerifoglu>  BtS needs citing.—spookywillowwtalk 07:17, June 6, 2020 (UTC)
22:32:38<@AnilSerifoglu>  Probe
22:32:42<@Ayrehead02>  Probe
22:32:44<@Tommy-Macaroni>  probe
22:32:48<@spookly>  Probe
22:32:49<@Fan26>  Probe
22:33:00<@Zed42>  probe
22:33:04<@AnilSerifoglu>  Daakman Barrek's first Padawan probed
22:33:10<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Bandon%27s_Jedi_Master
22:33:16<@AnilSerifoglu>  113 words in body, needs intro removed.
22:33:17<@AnilSerifoglu>  BtS needs cites.—spookywillowwtalk 07:17, June 6, 2020 (UTC)
22:33:18<@AnilSerifoglu>  Probe
22:33:28<@Tommy-Macaroni>  probé
22:33:32<@Zed42>  Probe
22:33:32<@Fan26>  Probe
22:33:39<@Ayrehead02>  Probe
22:33:39<@Toprawa>  Probe
22:33:40<@spookly>  Probe
22:33:42<@Toprawa>  Tommy just turned French
22:33:48<@Toprawa>  Or Nabooian
22:33:51<@AnilSerifoglu>  Darth Bandon's Jedi Master probéd
22:33:57<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Good thing Imperators isn't here :P
22:34:01<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Gorgos%27s_apprentice
22:34:03<@Tommy-Macaroni>  He would be happy with me
22:34:06<@AnilSerifoglu>  BtS rework: "though the apprentice's gender and species remained unspecified." to be removed, citing it as well.
22:34:06<@Tommy-Macaroni>  *n't
22:34:08<@AnilSerifoglu>  Though could be incorrect on this, seems like the BBY date would need some kind of manual note to tie it down.—spookywillowwtalk 07:17, June 6, 2020 (UTC)
22:34:13<@AnilSerifoglu>  Probe
22:34:19<@Ayrehead02>  Probe
22:34:19<@Tommy-Macaroni>  proben
22:34:23<@Fan26>  Probe
22:34:32<@Zed42>  Probe
22:34:40<@spookly>  Probe
22:34:46<@AnilSerifoglu>  Darth Gorgos's apprentice probed
22:34:57<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Maladi%27s_mother
22:35:06<@AnilSerifoglu>  BtS cleanup; overly wordy, comic release date needed.—spookywillowwtalk 07:17, June 6, 2020 (UTC)
22:35:09<@AnilSerifoglu>  Probe
22:35:19<@Ayrehead02>  Probe
22:35:20<@spookly>  Probe
22:35:21<@Fan26>  Probe
22:35:22<@Zed42>  probe
22:35:28<@Tommy-Macaroni>  probė
22:35:47<@AnilSerifoglu>  Darth Maladi's mother probed
22:35:54<@AnilSerifoglu>  😎
22:35:56<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Denjax_Teppler%27s_body_double
22:35:56<@Toprawa>  heh
22:36:05<@AnilSerifoglu>  Abridged audiobook should be checked for mention.
22:36:05<@AnilSerifoglu>  Second sentence of BtS likely unnecessary.—spookywillowwtalk 07:17, June 6, 2020 (UTC)
22:36:05<@AnilSerifoglu>  The unabridged audiobook should also be added to the Appearances. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 23:15, June 6, 2020 (UTC)
22:36:05<@AnilSerifoglu>  Probe
22:36:13<@Tommy-Macaroni>  probe
22:36:16<@Ayrehead02>  Probe
22:36:24<@Zed42>  Probe
22:36:30<@Fan26>  Probe
22:36:33<@spookly>  Probe
22:36:38<@AnilSerifoglu>  Denjax Teppler's body double probed
22:36:48<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Flesh_Raider_Ravager_Chieftain
22:36:54<@AnilSerifoglu>  160 words in body, needs intro removed.—spookywillowwtalk 07:17, June 6, 2020 (UTC)
22:36:59<@AnilSerifoglu>  Probe
22:37:06<@Toprawa>  Probe
22:37:08<@Fan26>  Probe
22:37:11<@spookly>  Probe
22:37:11<@Zed42>  probe
22:37:18<@Ayrehead02>  Probe
22:37:21<@Tommy-Macaroni>  probe
22:37:23<@AnilSerifoglu>  Flesh Raider Ravager Chieftain probed
22:37:31<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/E-3_blaster
22:37:47<@AnilSerifoglu>  "in the days of the Old Republic." There's a better way to give the timeframe, probably mentioning whichever conflict is occurring concurrently with the book.
22:37:49<@AnilSerifoglu>  The BtS needs to be cited.
22:37:49<@AnilSerifoglu>  The date note requires linking. Fan26 (Talk) 13:35, June 8, 2020 (UTC)
22:37:49<@AnilSerifoglu>  And, of course, the unabridged audiobook should be noted in the Appearances. Fan26 (Talk) 13:37, June 8, 2020 (UTC)
22:37:55<@AnilSerifoglu>  Probe
22:37:57<@Tommy-Macaroni>  prōb
22:37:59<@Fan26>  probe
22:38:00<@Ayrehead02>  Probe
22:38:02<@Zed42>  probe
22:38:17<@spookly>  Probe
22:38:22<@AnilSerifoglu>  E-3 blaster probed
22:38:31<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jizz-wail
22:38:36<@AnilSerifoglu>  Update needed.
22:38:38<@AnilSerifoglu>  BBY date unsourced.
22:38:38<@AnilSerifoglu>  BTS needs major rework/cleanup. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:10, June 13, 2020 (UTC)
22:38:38<@AnilSerifoglu>  The abridged Jedi Quest: The Dangerous Games audiobook needs to be checked for a possible mention of the subject. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 19:12, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
22:38:42<@AnilSerifoglu>  Probe
22:38:58<@Tommy-Macaroni>  probe
22:39:00<@Zed42>  Probe
22:39:01<@spookly>  Probe
22:39:01<@Ayrehead02>  Probe
22:39:02<@Fan26>  probe
22:39:13<@AnilSerifoglu>  Jizz-wail probed...
22:39:22<@AnilSerifoglu>  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_Twi%27lek_part_supplier
22:39:28<@AnilSerifoglu>  BTS needs sourced and an explanation for completing the sidequest and how it relates to finding the body. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 03:04, June 15, 2020 (UTC)
22:39:32<@AnilSerifoglu>  Sourced the BTS. About the latter part, doesn't the bit under the {{Gamemechanics}} template actually explain the sidequest? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 19:54, June 15, 2020 (UTC)
22:39:32<@AnilSerifoglu>  Yes, but it still needs a note about the article assuming the player did so. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 23:29, June 26, 2020 (UTC)
22:40:03<@AnilSerifoglu>  I dunno, the template is enough for me
22:40:26<@Zed42>  Minor addition, but the Appearances should utilize {{Corpse}}
22:40:55<@AnilSerifoglu>  Yeah, that's an easy fix
22:41:02<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Spare I guess
22:41:05<@Ayrehead02>  Spare
22:41:07<@AnilSerifoglu>  Any other opinions?
22:41:22<@Zed42>  yeah, not worth holding up over something small like that
22:41:36<@Fan26>  Spare
22:41:37<@spookly>  Spare
22:41:42<@Zed42>  Spare
22:41:57<@AnilSerifoglu>  Unidentified Twi'lek part supplier spared
22:42:39<@AnilSerifoglu>  The bin's empty I guess
22:43:01<@AnilSerifoglu>  So Tommy, you have the floor
22:43:07<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Thank you
22:43:21<@Tommy-Macaroni>  First, a quick PSA: I’ve overhauled the EduCorps category so it will hopefully be of more use to use. Comprehensive articles is now a subcategory, and that in turn has subcategories listing articles with CAnom, articles under probation, and articles under Redux. Then another subcategory of the main EC one lists all active CAN review pages (+ archives), all active CA probation pages (+ archives),
22:43:21<@Tommy-Macaroni>  and all active CA Redux pages (+ archives). Hopefully this will be a bit more useful for paperwork and stuff
22:43:21<@Tommy-Macaroni>  (ACs, the same has been done for our category, and I’ll hopefully get to the Inq one at some point soon)
22:43:40<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Just wanted to share in case that's of use
22:43:42<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Okay, first item
22:43:48<@Ayrehead02>  Nice work
22:43:54<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Thanks
22:43:55<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Okay, so last meeting we voted to cease randomisation of paperwork duties. Specifically, we decided to keep with our current randomised list and loop back to the start when it’s finished. However, when this was taken to the Inqmoot the following week, Tope pointed out that if this is the list we’re going to be using for the duration, it may as well be in alphabetical order. This also means it’s
22:43:55<@Tommy-Macaroni>  easier to immediately add new members to the schedule when they join. This has already been approved at AC and Inq level.
22:43:55<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Therefore, I propose that after meeting 74, as part of her paperwork, Spooky implements a new paperwork schedule in alphabetical order. This will be the final order, and will loop back to the start once complete.
22:44:04<@AnilSerifoglu>  Support
22:44:08<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Support
22:44:14<@Fan26>  Support
22:44:19<@Ayrehead02>  Support
22:44:26<@Zed42>  Support
22:44:33<@spookly>  Support
22:44:40<@Toprawa>  Support
22:44:53<@AnilSerifoglu>  Tommy's alteration to the paperwork duties passes 7-0
22:45:04<@AnilSerifoglu>  Tommy, please continue :P
22:45:09<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Lovely. Item 2:
22:45:14<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Okay, so you may have seen the recent update to the GAN, and hopefully you’ve had a chance to look over https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tommy-Macaroni/Review_workbench , which contains the newly improved CAN. Basically, this is making sure the stuff on the nomination pages is relevant, up to date, and uniform between the three pages.
22:45:14<@Tommy-Macaroni>  For the log, I’ll list some of the notable changes to the CAN in isolation:
22:45:14<@Tommy-Macaroni>  *CAN now has four opening paragraphs. The first details the nature of that specific type of article in comparison to the other two. Then, brief information is given about the extensive review process, warnings about what article nominating is not, and some words on nominator responsibility and self-sufficiency.
22:45:14<@Tommy-Macaroni>  *The CAN's What is a "Comprehensive article?" section has been removed. Much of this is far too detailed/wordy, and most of the info now exists in the above paragraphs. It also contained information on the probation system, which isn't relevant to the CA nomination page.
22:45:14<@Tommy-Macaroni>  *"'This is, of course, within reason. If a topic only has a very limited degree of content that cannot be divided up into the relevant article sections, it is not required that it follow the Layout Guide precisely. This is to be judged on a case-by-case basis.'" on the CAN has been removed, as the LG now specifies articles under 165 words don't need to use sectioning, so "case-by-case basis" is
22:45:15<@Tommy-Macaroni>  actually incorrect.
22:45:15<@Tommy-Macaroni>  *How to nominate and How to review sections have been rewritten for better flow and clarity.
22:45:16<@Tommy-Macaroni>  *Information detailing the number of votes required for an article to pass has been rewritten for all three pages for improved clarity and simplicity.
22:45:16<@Tommy-Macaroni>  I’m hoping you’ve all had a chance to look over this prior to the meeting so we don’t have to spend too long looking over these changes
22:46:32<@Toprawa>  Support :P
22:46:36<@Ayrehead02>  Support
22:46:38<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Support
22:46:40<@AnilSerifoglu>  Support
22:46:42<@Zed42>  Support
22:47:05<@spookly>  Support
22:47:36<@AnilSerifoglu>  Motion to update to Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations passes 6-0
22:47:50<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Excellent. That's all from me, thanks everyone
22:48:16<@AnilSerifoglu>  Okay, any other discussion items/article before we finish this lovely meeting?
22:48:21<@Toprawa>  Yeah, I have two brief reviewing points I wanted to bring up for everyone to keep in mind
22:48:21<@AnilSerifoglu>  articles*
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22:48:35<@Toprawa>  The first one I brought up at the last AC meeting, some of you have heard this already
22:48:39<@Toprawa>  so some*
22:48:41<@AnilSerifoglu>  Sure
22:48:57<@Toprawa>  It tends to pop up from time to time, so I think it deserves mentioning
22:49:10<@Toprawa>  There's a correct way for when and when not to link to the word "agent"
22:49:20<@Toprawa>  People get this confused because we have an article on [[Agent]]
22:49:28<@Toprawa>  "Agent" is an actual rank/title for some characters
22:49:35<@Toprawa>  Like an ISB agent actually holds the rank of Agent
22:49:45<@Toprawa>  This is totally different than just saying "Han Solo was an agent of the Rebel Alliance"
22:49:50<@Toprawa>  We don't link in the Han Solo case
22:50:02<@Toprawa>  Remember to make this distinction when you come across this
22:50:13<@Toprawa>  The second regards BTS wording
22:50:35<@Toprawa>  It's unnecessary to say "[Subject] first appeared in [source]" if there's only one source or one source and its audiobook
22:50:52<@Toprawa>  We get locked into this cookie cutter phrasing in every BTS, but it's redundant when there's only one source
22:50:57<@Toprawa>  Of course he first appeared in the only source he's in
22:51:14<@Toprawa>  In those cases, just say "[Subject] appeared in source." Or "Subject was created for source."
22:51:31<@Toprawa>  That's all
22:52:06<@AnilSerifoglu>  Thank you, Tope
22:52:08<@Tommy-Macaroni>  Cool cool
22:52:15<@AnilSerifoglu>  Anything else before we adjourn this meeting, people?
22:52:38<@Zed42>  There are some CAs that need updating regarding a map in the new Galaxy's Edge reference book
22:52:49<@Zed42>  Minor stuff mostly
22:53:07<@Ayrehead02>  I don't think the book is actually officially out yet
22:53:15<@Zed42>  It's out digitally
22:53:40<@Ayrehead02>  Oh ok, well we don't really need to discuss that here
22:54:01<@Ayrehead02>  Probably best to contact the individual nominators or just mention it in WP:GE
22:54:16<@AnilSerifoglu>  If it has just came out officially, I think we should give the nominators time to update it
22:54:17<@Toprawa>  Just add update tags
22:54:20<@Toprawa>  Let people handle it on their own
22:54:31<@Zed42>  Would minor updates like those need to be brought up and checked at the next meeting?
22:55:01<@AnilSerifoglu>  If no one is willing to do so, yes
22:55:07<@spookly>  Yay. Updates
22:55:41<@AnilSerifoglu>  Very well
22:55:47<@AnilSerifoglu>  Fan26 does paperwork and schedules Meeting 69
22:55:55<@AnilSerifoglu>  Thank you all for comin