Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asher Clark

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The result was Keep as 1 week now has only suggested Keeping (NAC). SwisterTwister talk 06:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Second leading American football rusher for his college, but no pro career. Does not seem to satisfy WP:NCOLLATH Edison (talk) 03:00, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. He is the second-leading rusher in history for a Division I FCS FBS team. He passes WP:GNG as he has received significant coverage in multiple, reliable media outlets, some of which are already cited in the article. Cbl62 (talk) 03:04, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep (edit conflict) Per Cbl. He's the second-leading rusher for a team in the highest level of college competition, and he has gained individual national media attention, from at least the four different sources cited in the article. Lizard (talk) 03:17, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment "Second leading rusher for his team" does not explicitly satisfy WP:NCOLLATH. I see coverage of his football playing in newspapers from the same state the college is located in. Was there much national coverage of his playing? He probably got routine passing reference (Jones passed to Smith who carried the ball 12 yards) in articles about games in which he played, but that seems inadequate to establish notability for a college athlete. It takes substantial coverage of his sports career. Pretty local coverage so far in the references provided in the article. He got some national mention for being "dismissed from the college" for reasons the college refused to state under privacy rules, shortly before he was to graduate, which would be a basis for WP:BLP1E deletion for most bio articles. Edison (talk) 16:52, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• @Edison: -- My view is that Clark passes WP:GNG. National media attention is not required under GNG (though there was some), but I do tend to discount the coverage somewhat if it is limited to small town or student newspapers covering a local athlete. In this case, the coverage is not so limited. Nor is there a WP:BLP1E given that the coverage of his career was extensive from 2008 to 2011 (long before the dismissal). For example, The Denver Post is one of the country's major metropolitan dailies, ranking 10th in circulation nationally. The Denver Post covered Clark's career extensively, including these articles: (1) "Asher Clark's father calls Air Force dismissal a "travesty", 5/24/12, (2) "Air Force football star Asher Clark dismissed from academy", 5/20/12, (3) "Air Force's Asher Clark having a record career", (4) "Clark in a rush to hit finish line as a winner", 11/15/01 (available on NewsLibrary.com), (5) "School-record run puts Clark at head of the class", 9/24/11, (6) "Clark galloping into high gear", 8/11/11 (available on NewsLibrary.com), (7) "Clark in comfort zone at tailback Coach Calhoun says the skilled sophomore brings a lot of fire to the team", 9/4/09 (available on NewsLibrary.com), and (8) "Instant impact Freshman tailback Clark could get the start against UNLV", 11/17/08. Likewise, The Gazette is not a podunk, small town newspaper; rather, it is a respected, 2014 Pulitzer Prize winning newspaper that also covered Clark extensively. Coverage in The Gazette includes: (9) "Offensive linemen excited for Clark's chase for AFA's rushing record", (10) "Running back Asher Clark finishing up steady career for Air Force", 11/18/11, (11) "Quietly, Clark puts together big career", 11/19/11 (available on NewsLibrary.com), (12) "RB Clark quietly continues assault on AFA record book," 11/20/11 (available on NewsLibary.com), (13) "Air Force's Clark takes no-nonsense route to end zone, Senior running back delivers superb season", 11/19/11 (available on NewsLibrary.com), (14) "Asher Clark has been productive with surprisingly few carries", 10/11/11 (available on NewsLibrary.com), (15) "Asher Clark takes bold run to superb senior season for Falcons", 10/8/11 (available on NewsLibrary.com), (16) "Falcons' Clark is making it look easy", 10/7/11 (available on NewsLibrary.com), (17) "Durable Clark gets ready for next 1,000", 8/5/11, and (18) "Humble Clark Hits 1,000-Yard Milestone", 12/10/10, (18) "Asher Clark's rare achievement", 11/23/10, (19) "Clark Shows His Potential With Big Stats", 10/15/10, (20) "Clark gets bigger, now ready to run harder", 8/9/10, (21) "Clark is lead horse in stable", 3/4/10, (22) "Clark Named MWC Co-Offensive Player of the Week", 11/16/09, (23) "Falcons' Clark is primed for stretch", 11/3/09, (24) "Freshman Clark Right at Home in New Position", 10/26/08. Significant coverage in other media outlets includes (25) this from the Reporter-Herald, (26) this from the Gwinnett Daily Post, (27) "Clark leads Falcons", Longmont Times-Call, 11/15/09 (available on NewsLibrary.com), (28) "Air Force freshman Clark breaks out in big way", McClatchy-Tribune Regional News, 11/9/08 (available on NewsLibrary.com), and (29) "Clark tops list of Lions' commitments", The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 1/24/08, and (30) "Lions' Clark commits to Air Force Academy", Gwinnett Daily Post, 1/25/08, (31) "Asher Clark kicked out", 5/20/12, (32) "Air Force duo tries to keep NFL dreams alive years after college careers ended", Yahoo Sports, 4/7/13. Cbl62 (talk) 20:46, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep in view of the large number of sources identified above so that WP:BASIC is passed. Atlantic306 (talk) 22:46, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as a WP:GNG pass, per Cbl62's sources. Ejgreen77 (talk) 23:28, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Cbl62 (talk) 22:49, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per WP:GNG. Plenty of coverage of both his football career and his dismissal, so this is not a WP:BLP1E issue either. Rlendog (talk) 13:45, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• keep Clearly passes WP:GNG due to research above.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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