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If I understand this edit correctly then you are supposed to also mention me as a party to that dispute. Let me know if I did not understand this correctly. Thanks. Lklundin (talk) 08:01, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are right Lklundin. The complex edits by Absolutelypuremilk and Beagel have also deleted your contributions to Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station#Cost_to_consumers. As an interim measure, I have reinstated both our contributions via this linked article on UK electricity prices Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom#Strike_prices. This is the first time I have come across direct deletion of established material on Wikipedia without prior discussion. I will add you as a party to the dispute. Lancastle (talk) 09:05, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for that edit. I have to say though that I find it exceedingly strange, that it can be stated that one price is lower than another, but that there is such a resistance to actually mention what these prices are in separate, sourced statements. Lklundin (talk) 09:24, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, Lklundin. Most expert commentators on the HPC project refer to either the current/spot price or the subsidy/strike price, and it is common practice on Wikipedia to show prices side-by-side in various tables, where the prices are from a variety of sources. I am also concerned about the 'delete now, justify later' behaviour of both these editors. With their multi-purpose edits (deleted, moving and adding material in a single edit) the approach is very confusing to untangle when, like me, you are a part-time, voluntary Wikipedian. There are other odd things going on, such as the unnecessary deletion of the day from key dates, which make no sense to me. Lancastle (talk) 09:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please also mention Beagel and I as parties to the dispute. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 09:18, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I included Absolutelypuremilk and Beagel as parties to the dispute at 09:13 today, prior to your request. Lancastle (talk) 09:25, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@TGCP: You have also contributed to the discussion of the disputed content, maybe you would also like your say? Lklundin (talk) 09:31, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think the discussion is well covered on HPC talk page. It's about wp:synth. A debate requires all parties to try to understand eachother, and sometimes that takes several iterations. I have not more to add. TGCP (talk) 10:29, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@TGCP: I think one problem with this dispute is that it _cannot_ be summarized as 'about wp:synth'. The resistance to quantifying the current electricity price in Norway has included a range of other arguments including WP:OR, WP:PRIMARY, WP:RS and has even questioned my personal motives for making the change. Lklundin (talk) 11:53, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Synth was pretty much the only necessary reason. The other reasons may have been misguided, which is why I added some comments. That is what I mean by iterations; we get sidetracked when we misunderstand things. But that doesn't reduce the Synth reason. TGCP (talk) 12:52, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

TGCP I have raised the dispute not because I disagree that the article could be improved, but because Absolutelypuremilk and Beagel were deleting material and they have only stopped since the dispute was raised. In addition, they were making complex edits with embedded deletes of key information such as dates. Rather than delete material written, they could at least start with the more user-friendly

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and ^{[citation needed]}, as well as encouraging discussion on Talk:Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station.

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