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Thanks for feedback. I think I will just give up. I was not disputing the information given, just concerned that it was difficult to understand. But now I will do other things... Cheers Sdc870 (talk)

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Please be sure that your answers at the Teahouse are accurate. An editor blocked sitewide cannot edit at the Teahouse. They can only edit their user talk page, and that privilege can be withdrawn if abused. Cullen328 (talk) 17:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think this refers to a comment I made at WP:Help desk. I believed the edit to the help desk was made after the block, but looking at it again, it seems the edit was just before the block. Jc3s5h (talk) 18:02, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About this: I am, obviously, aware of that discussion. But I see nobody in that discussion, or anywhere else, claiming that a press release is anything other than self-published. Are you aware of anyone claiming that a press release is non-self-published? WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe there are a number of comments that individuals, or individuals in sole control of a small corporation, are able to self-publish. Larger organizations may be biased and their publications are primary sources, but they aren't self-published. Also, there are comments along the line that corporate publications that are written by one employee and approved by a different employee are not self-published. Jc3s5h (talk) 02:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But do you see anyone claiming this specifically about a press release? WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As an example, I think the post KoA (talk) 18:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC) disputes the idea that just because a source isn't independent doesn't make it self-published. If this view is sustained, the following footnote in WP:V would need to be modified:[reply]

• Self-published material is characterized by the lack of independent reviewers (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of the content. Further examples of self-published sources include press releases, the material contained within company websites, advertising campaigns, material published in media by the owner(s)/publisher(s) of the media group, self-released music albums, and electoral manifestos...

The post Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC) introduces a subsection "Grey literature (not SPS)" for consideration that says that corporate or organizational material is not self-published so long as "any such material that has undergone some form of formal review process independent of the original author". In many organizations press releases are reviewed by someone other than the original author. Jc3s5h (talk) 03:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC) Jc3s5h (talk) 03:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For some specific examples, see

• Alanscottwalker (talk) 09:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Alanscottwalker (talk) 10:13, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 16:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• 100.36.106.199 (talk) 13:38, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• KoA (talk) 13:38, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• KoA (talk) 18:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Jc3s5h (talk) 02:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]