“ | Those other toys, they don't spark joy. But Sam and Dean, the real Sam and Dean, they do. They challenge me... they disappoint me... they surprise me. They're the ones. | „ |
~ The true way God views his creations. |
I've not ever done an IA removal before, but during my review of the Supernatural characters and their moral scaling, I came across God's IA page. He's listed as one of the rare crossovers between PE and IA, where an IA falls from grace and becomes PE. As much as I enjoy characters like that, God just doesn't fit the bill.
Thank you to Ivan the Brony Kaiju for permission.
What's the Work?[]
Supernatural is a dark fantasy drama CW series which ran from 2005-2020. It follows the two brothers Sam and Dean Winchester, who became hunters following their mother's murder at the hands of a demon. They become entangled in multiple world ending events, such as the release of Lucifer and even the wrath of God himself.
Who is God? Why Doesn't He Count?[]
So, God is presented as a fallen IA, who was initially admirable with flaws, but went on to become PE. The thing is that this isn't what happens, the events of season 15 are what make God PE, as he no longer has any of his redeemable qualities and proceeds to destroy every universe in existence except for the main one. The problem is that in the final episode of season 14 and throughout season 15, we are told that God was never actually good, and was pulling the strings of every bad thing that had ever happened. With the exception of actions taken by other Primordial Entities such as Death, the Darkness, and the Shadow, every conflict in the series was his work. For example, during the events of season 4-5, he poses as the Heavenly profit Chuck Shurley in order to help Sam and Dean defeat Lucifer and stop the apocalypse. However, it is revealed in season 11 he just wanted a front row seat to events, and in season 13 we learn that God created other universes that also had versions of Lucifer, meaning he was responsible for other apocalypses. God treats every universe as a draft, he makes them and then leaves them behind, he just happens to have a preference for the main universe. The only apocalypse that is unique to the main universe is in season 11 when the Darkness is unleashed, since there is only one version of God and the Darkness across all universes. He does help here, and it's unclear whether this was him manipulating events or not, but regardless this would be the only conflict that he isn't responsible for, as the others are all part of his story.
The other problem is that he isn't admirable enough. While he did lock away the Darkness at the beginning of time and tried to do it again in season 11, he does it with the help of humans in season 11, and Sam and Dean manage to stop him during season 15, at which point Jack absorbs Gods power and restores all of the universes he destroyed. This means two humans manage to stop a Primordial Entity from ruining the universe, despite having literally infinitely less resources compared to the power of God. His other admirable acts, stopping Lucifer and the Leviathans in the early days of the universe, are once again something that Sam and Dean also do, since they lock Lucifer away in season 5 and stop the Leviathans in season 7. God is also responsible for Lucifer and the Leviathans being unleashed in season 5 and season 7 because he was manipulating events, as Sam says in the final episode of season 14, their entire lives were being puppeteered by God. So if two humans manage to do as many if not more admirable acts than him, and if he was the reason why most of these conflicts were happening in the first place, then there's no way he stays as IA.
His IA page lists a lot of these things as having started in season 15, when in reality it was revealed that they were always true. If you look at other fallen IAs, they aren't secretly evil from the start, they do genuinely have admirable qualities, and end up shedding them to become PE, but still have an IA page, that's just simply not what happened with God. For example him seeing angels and humans as tools for his story wasn't something he changed his mind on in season 15, he always felt that way, and was faking it up to that point. And even if he was genuine in season 11, he's not nearly admirable enough considering Sam, Dean, and Jack do equally or even more admirable stuff than him, with Sam and Dean doing it as just regular humans.
Final Verdict[]
Cut, he doesn't fall from grace but is rather revealed to be evil all along, and while him stopping the Darkness may have been genuine, he massively fails the admirable standards to regular humans who do equally admirable things to him without the power of God.