Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2010 September 11
September 11
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Covelovato.png (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:Alex Doukakis2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:Alex Doukakis3.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:Alx Dokkis.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:DropdGorgous.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:JDulo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:JeDulo32.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:Codyjamie.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:Codyjamie2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:JonnForeean.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:JeDulo2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:Thispic3.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:LukeTaiohCruz.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:CagethheEnvyphant.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:LukasGootwaltz.png (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:Thispic7.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:Thispic19.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:Thispic15.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:MaxMotta02.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:MaxMotta03.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:MaxMotta04.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:MaxMotta05.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- File:MaxMotta07.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Orphaned image uploaded by a now-blocked sockpuppetteer and hoax page creator. Source and licensing may also be a hoax. | Uncle Milty | talk | 00:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Napa201.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- The Pierce watermark on this image indicates that it likely came from the manufacturer's website and is not a free image. BrokenSphereMsg me 01:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Licensed under {{PD-text}}. — ξxplicit 00:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MAIC logo blue rgb300.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source; if legit, uploader would not be (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Licensed under {{PD-text}}. — ξxplicit 00:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MAGIC CIRCUS2 copy.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source; if legit, uploader would not be (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Licensed under fair use. — ξxplicit 00:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MAXQDA10logo.png (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source (screenshot); if legit, uploader would not be (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MBSOriginalCrest.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- school logo; no source; if legit, uploader would not be (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:17, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MBTClogo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source; if legit, uploader would not be (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:18, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MCL---CAS.png (delete | talk | history | logs).
- school logo; no source (screenshot); if legit, uploader would not be (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:23, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MCL---ETYCB.gif (delete | talk | history | logs).
- school logo; no source; if legit, uploader would not be (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:24, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MCM Logo.png (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source; if legit, uploader would not be (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:24, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MDC PASA LOGO.gif (delete | talk | history | logs).
- school logo; no source; if legit, uploader would not be (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:24, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MDI new logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source; if legit, uploader would not be (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:25, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MDillistoneWikipedia.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- collage of 6 images claimed to be in public domain - no sources provided to prove PD claim Skier Dude (talk 04:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MDstill3aLores.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- claims to come from www.glory.co.uk, only thing i can see there is all images are (c) - no proof to PD-self Skier Dude (talk 04:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MEDAFAR CPR portada.png (delete | talk | history | logs).
- book cover, sourced from www.medafar.com; no proof it was released as CC3; also includes 3 logos not de minimis Skier Dude (talk 04:30, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MEDAFAR CPR mhi.png (delete | talk | history | logs).
- screenshot probably from from www.medafar.com; PD-self is doubtful Skier Dude (talk 04:31, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MEDAFAR CPR abstract.png (delete | talk | history | logs).
- screenshot probably from from www.medafar.com; PD-self is doubtful Skier Dude (talk 04:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MEDAFAR logotipo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MENA logo.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MEN OF VEGAS WATERFALL.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- publicity materials; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:33, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MGHcover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- magazine cover; no source; doubtful uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MHM Logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holde Skier Dude (talk 04:38, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MHS kpr.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- school logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MHSS badge.gif (delete | talk | history | logs).
- school logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MHSNH.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- school logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MHSS old badge2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- school logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MHSS old logo2.gif (delete | talk | history | logs).
- school logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:45, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MHhistorylogo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- 4 corporate logos; no sources; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:45, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MI DNR LOGO.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
- government logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:45, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MIA-web-cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- appears to be publicity poster - maybe web banner?; no source, includes multiple non-sourced images Skier Dude (talk 04:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MIC.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MII Logo.jpeg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- corporate logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Tagged as non-free. Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:38, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MINDEF crest.jpeg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- government logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MISA.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- book cover; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:MIS Logo.png.jpeg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- school logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder Skier Dude (talk 04:49, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:MJB cover big.JPEG (delete | talk | history | logs).
- book cover; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder; permission claim not proven by WP:OTRS Skier Dude (talk 04:50, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:MJHL-001.gif (delete | talk | history | logs).
- hockey league logo; no source; unlikely uploader is (c) holder if legit Skier Dude (talk 04:51, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:INS Hanit.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- IDF never releases its photographs to PD. Missing source. Flayer (talk) 08:30, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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No FOP problem. Now on Commons as commons:File:George Stephenson Statue National Railway Museum.JPG. Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:42, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Leeman.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
- No Freedom of panorama for artwork. Magog the Ogre (talk) 09:23, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- ? This is in the United Kingdom. Sculpture there is covered by FOP, see Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#United_Kingdom. This is OK. . . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk to me • contribs) 02:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Angusmclellan (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 10:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Christ on the Mount of Olives replica, Lubbock, TX IMG 0030.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Does not satisfy US requirements of Commons:COM:FOP Magog the Ogre (talk) 09:53, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- This image also on Commons as commons:File:Ukrainian Academy of Arts. fassade-1-.jpg. As you can see, nominated for deletion there, where source is given as http://academia.gov.ua website, which has a copyright statement at the foot of the page. Not clear where the GFDL license comes from. Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:57, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- This image also on Commons as commons:File:Ukrainian Academy of Arts. staff-1-.jpg. As you can see, nominated for deletion there, where source is given as http://academia.gov.ua website, which has a copyright statement at the foot of the page. Image not found in current version of site, but a captioned version seen in a PDF file there. Not clear where the GFDL license comes from. Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:59, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- This picture was obviously not painted on April 15, 1912, and there is no evidence to indicate that this painting is in the public domain as claimed. SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:MILSIM Planning.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Screenshot - More information needed as to sourcing Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Mpl61.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Conflicting sources, latter of which would appear to be a copyrighted journal, No further information provided that substantiate the release claim Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: keep, licensed under {{PD-BritishGov}}. — ξxplicit 01:00, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Miles Martinet.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- declared public domain UK but image is not more than seventy years only, published in 1943 first of type did not fly until 1942 MilborneOne (talk) 17:08, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Surely, given the subject and date, would be an official photograph: {{PD-BritishGov}}? Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:45, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: keep, licensed under {{PD-BritishGov}}. The file was already on Commons, so... — ξxplicit 01:00, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Handley Page Hastings.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- pd-uk claimed but image was published in 1946 and aircraft type did not fly before that year MilborneOne (talk) 17:14, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- If we accept the claim that this is one of the prototypes at Wittering - and why shouldn't we? - then given the subject and context, would be an official photograph: {{PD-BritishGov}}. Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:SourceRadiologo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs).
- "This is the logo for SourceRadio e-sports company" So I fail to see how this can be self as claimed. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:08, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- This is a 2D artwork - and as such given it's subject likely to be a 'work for hire' comissioned by the organisation concerned, More information needed to support a self-claim Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:12, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Wsj cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- While the uploader might be the artist, the artist is not the (c) holder of the Wall Street Journal. There needs to be WP:OTRS confirmation from the Journal that they are releasing this cover. Also, used in a gallery with no critical commentary. Skier Dude (talk 22:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The following appear to be similar - all contain the subject's graphic work, but all appear to copy significant extra parts of copyrighted newspapers/magazines...
- File:Wsj slash.jpg
- File:Dallasmorningnewszz.jpg
- File:Dallas morningnews michaeljackson.jpg (ah, this one is covered below)
- File:Bust michelleobama.jpg
- File:Hightimes michaelphelps.jpg
- File:Yrb whitestripes.jpg
- File:Cartalk.jpg
- File:Village voice.jpg
- File:Rotariancover.jpg
- File:Yrb greenday.jpg
- File:Jazziz theloniousmonk.jpg
- File:Coloradobiz cover.jpg
- File:Gq.jpg
- File:Penthouse 2.jpg
- File:Yrb kanyewest.jpg
- File:Jazziz raybaretta.jpg
- File:Bertman hightimes 1.jpg
- It looks like the author was trying to use them as a form of citation - I've suggested just citing the print editions in the standard way, at User talk:Lbertman. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 03:54, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:12, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- While the uploader might be the artist, the artist is not the (c) holder of the Dallas Morning News. There needs to be WP:OTRS confirmation from the Morning News that they are releasing this cover. Also, used in a gallery with no critical commentary. Skier Dude (talk 22:50, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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