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Category:Continuous pitch instruments

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 8#Category:Continuous pitch instruments

Category:Indonesian contemporary R&B

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:02, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No scheme for Category:Contemporary R&B by nation, too niche, very little content. @Hiddenstranger:―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:53, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Alumni of women's universities and colleges

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The target category is more precise given that these are women's colleges. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 16:26, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:University of Kyiv, Historical faculty

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:23, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A good illustration of why we shouldnt use "Faculty" to describe University academics. Rathfelder (talk) 15:37, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Glockenspiel players

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:08, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is not a defining metric for any of the listed players. Most are vibraphonists or percussionists that have doubling on glockenspiel as part of their basic skillsets, anyway. Why? I Ask (talk) 14:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Monuments and memorials in Hargeisa

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. User:Namiba 14:03, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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People from caliphates

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 8#People from caliphates

Category:People from the Komi Republic

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:12, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one article in each. Rathfelder (talk) 13:35, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 11:52, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Nizhny Novgorod Oblast

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:13, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article in each. Rathfelder (talk) 14:08, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 11:52, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Years and decades in Greece (until 1820)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 9#Years and decades in Greece (until 1820)

Category:Films based on Marvel Comics characters before the MCU

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:16, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Arbitrary definition and non-defining. Several non-MCU Marvel films are still being made. ★Trekker (talk) 08:34, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete based on the criteria, this just a list of films based on Marvel characters released prior to May 2008, which is an arbitrary cutoff. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:31, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • The cutoff is not arbitrary. It represents the period during which these films could not have been part of the MCU at all. Films containing Marvel Comics characters but made outside of the MCU following the initiation of the MCU represent a choice by the production companies not to negotiate some connection of the properties, as was eventually done with the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies. Since the most recent of these has retroactively deemed the original Spider-Man movies as canon, the MCU has demonstrated the ability to do this for any of these. BD2412 T 17:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Unless you can provide sources showing that there were attempts by Marvel Studios and/or the other production company to make a Sony/Spider-man type deal for each non-MCU Marvel film post 2008, then claiming the lack of such a deal "represents a choice" is original research at best. When Fox was about to lose the rights to Daredevil, Disney offered to extend the license if Fox would return Galactus and Silver Surfer from the Fantastic Four bundle (see [1]) Note that there's no mention of a partnership - just a rights swap. I still see the May 2008 cutoff as arbitrary with no value. Argento Surfer (talk) 11:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @StarTrekker: MCU films are thoroughly categorized as such, so it is useful to categorize those films that are based on the same intellectual property but are not part of the MCU. I would be open to expanding the category to include all non-MCU Marvel films including Marvel Comics characters, but I do think that there is a signficant distinction between those that were released before they could have been deemed MCU films, and those that were not. The sheer numbers are enough to have subcategories. BD2412 T 17:30, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This category has been emptied by MegaSmike46. Liz Read! Talk! 02:47, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I just like to share information that a category under discussion is now empty in case it affects decisions about deletions, mergers or renames. Liz Read! Talk! 01:14, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz: Strictly speaking, MegaSmike46 recategorized all of these to Category:Live-action films based on Marvel Comics, which is better than not having a category for this group of works, but less satisfactory than having a category that specifies the relationship shared by these works. BD2412 T 05:37, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • If this category hadn't been emptied out, there would be about a dozen just from the 1970s and 1980s, including three Incredible Hulk films, three Spider-Man films, two Captain America films, and one each of Doctor Strange, the Punisher, and Howard the Duck. BD2412 T 05:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete While I can understand the persistence in addressing confusion between the MCU films and Marvel-based films not in the MCU, there are still films not in the MCU being made today, so I don't see how this category's specific title and select catalog of articles would really benefit in a way that the list of the Marvel-based films would not, given they denote which ones are and are not in the MCU in a detailed sense in the article and in the articles themselves, which one may argue is a more efficient means than rummaging through a category of every film that is not in the MCU than one which is only for the MCU films. More readers are likely to search within the article namespace than search for a categorization, especially not one this exclusive and selective in a set timeframe. If it is not part of something, what rationale warrants an interest or drive for it to be noted as such in a category? We don't state in the ledes of each pre-MCU film that it came before a latter franchise's existence. It is more encyclopedic to denote something for what it is, not what lacks in presence. Aside from that, the title of the category in question can also be interpreted in other ways. Instead of it being for release dates, it could be assumed for continuity, which is a technical and difficult subject for what pre-dates the MCU's existence, while the use of "MCU" in it is, generally speaking, used by those more aware of the subject, which this seems to be intended for rather than a casual reader where an article would suffice a more cohesive explanation. I can't find myself supporting this category's existence in what feels like a stretch to find a purpose in a limited and very selective grouping. Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:30, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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