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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. While on a pure nose count this may at first look like a "no consensus", a comprehensive analysis of proposed sources indicates that there is not GNG-level material available about this subject, and this was not refuted. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:58, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sulehri Kashif Ali

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 17:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Routine coverage applies to WP:NCORP or an event. Anyways, there is more coverage in local language: [8], [9], [10]. At least do a proper WP:BEFORE when you're nominating this bio for the second time. BookishReader (talk) 10:06, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Routine coverage applies to all articles as it is described in WP:NOT: routine news coverage of announcements, events, sports, or celebrities, while sometimes useful, is not by itself a sufficient basis for inclusion of the subject of that coverage. It is also explicitly invoked multiple times in the NSPORT guideline: must provide reports beyond routine game coverage. The type of tournament results coverage cited here is always considered routine. JoelleJay (talk) 17:03, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:44, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:21, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep and rename to Kashif Sulehri. Reason per BookishReader. Stvbastian (talk) 23:45, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:NBAD criteria. No objection to renaming. Suitskvarts (talk) 05:54, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. NBAD is not a notability guideline; the relevant guidance is NSPORT, which requires GNG to be met and a GNG-contributing source to be cited in the article. JoelleJay (talk) 16:49, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    1 is a news report on PBF that quotes Sulehri without giving him SIGCOV Red XN. 2 is a routine tournament results announcement, not SIGCOV Red XN. Ditto for 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10. 4 and 7 are routine announcements that are almost entirely non-independent, primary quotes from the PBF VP Red XN. The subject fails NSPORT. JoelleJay (talk) 16:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    This is the entirety of independent bytes of coverage on the subject, with all but one source being extremely brief, utterly routine recaps of his and his partner's performance at a handful of low-level tournaments. The sole source on him alone has under 25 words about him, also all in a routine announcement. Redundant phrasing/info is reduced in text but visible in the tooltips.
    From May 2010 routine tournament coverage and PBF interview in The Tribune and Dawn:

    Pakistani duo of Rizwan Azam and Kashif Sulehri marched into the final of the Maldives International Badminton Championship in Maldives on Friday. They defeated Gadi Antonino and Asuncion Kennevic of Phillipines in the semi-final, the score being 14-21, 21-11 and 21-16. The final will see them facing Sri Lanka's Karunaratne Dinuka and Karunaratne Niluka.

    Rizwan and Sulehri clinched the men’s doubles title in the tournament. They lost the first set 17-21 but made a strong comeback in the fight for the title, winning the next two sets 21-14, 21-14.

    From Aug 2010 routine tournament coverage in Nawaiwaqt and Dawn:

    Top doubles team Rizwan and Kashif won the Syrian International Series 2010 after a 21-18, 21-18 victory over Ebrahim Jafar Al Sayed Jafar and Setiawan Heri of Bahrain. The 147th ranked pair had earlier stunned favourites Shahhosseini Ali and Kheradmandi Mohammad Reza of Iran (ranked 77) 21-13, 19-21, 21-9 to secure an unexpected place in the finals.

    From 2011 routine piece on PBF in the Tribune:

    [Zero independent coverage]

    From 2016 routine tournament update in Daily Pakistan:

    Rizwan and Kashif have upset in the Nepal International Series Badminton Tournament. They have reached the men's doubles final. The Indian pair Ani Kumar Raju and Venkat Gaurav were defeated, tomorrow they will face India's Arjun MR and Ramchandra Shulak in the final.

    From 2018 routine tournament coverage in Nawaiwaqt:

    Kashif Silhari, the top international player [and ten-year-old Pakistan National Champion], won the final of the All Pakistan Abdullah Open Badminton Tournament.

    JoelleJay (talk) 18:30, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to allow for further discussion of the level of coverage in sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 05:37, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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