Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sharmin Sultana Sumi (singer)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 08:50, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject has no notability outside of the band. Previously redirected to band but has been restored by article creator, twice. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 01:23, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 01:23, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 01:23, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and rename What we have here is one overbearing editor who apparently refuses to listen to reason. I had a run in with him in a recent case so I was left watching his talk page. He called me a troll as he deleted my words of advice. Since, I have seen him steamroll other newbie editors, as I said, overbearing but more importantly incorrectly. The newbie who created this understood there should be an article about this singer and did an improper end-around. The original article just under the singer's name should be the proper place for this, without the unnecessary, unilaterally imposed redirect. Before that action, maybe an AfD or other form of mediating discussion could have taken place to solve this. That is what the collegial atmosphere of wikipedia should be.

  That said to the subject of the article: I have added sources showing she has written what appears to be a hit for other artists. I think 2 million youtube views might count for that in the Bangladeshi marketplace. She has (as already in the article) won several individual awards. Also now sourced, the Ice Cream video makes no mention of her band. She also, independently is a Playback singer. Those would qualify her under WP:NMUSIC and WP:COMPOSER. Plus she is the founder, leader, lyricist, singer and front person for the band.

  This could have come up in a reasonable discussion. I realize those are hard to get at AfD. They are even harder when the discussion is not initiated by a high power editor who should know better, but instead just knows it all. Trackinfo (talk) 05:43, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Who are you referring to? I do not believe I have interacted with you.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 07:53, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • They are hard to get only because rationales like this disregard the Project:no personal attacks policy. Uncle G (talk) 08:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vinegarymass911, it isn't you. I avoided naming names to avoid making a personal attack. Point being, I have shown independent notoriety with sources. Any editor worth their google could have done the same and avoided this. We do not need to abuse our ESL newbies and the products of their work. They don't know how to deal with these situations and in this case behaved improperly. Now we have this article as improved. Stop the AfD, move it to the original namespace, remove the redirect and we should be on our way. Trackinfo (talk) 08:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, She is a notable singer. She is a playback singer, Creator and lead vocalist of a Bangladeshi famous band Chirkutt. She won many several awards. And Thank You Trackinfo for properly describe this matter. ChotoBhai (talk) 13:22, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Note that the original edit history is at Sharmin Sultana Sumi and that the current article is a bogus copy and paste of the same. There is a discussion of the first redirect at Talk:Sharmin Sultana Sumi and AFD is not the place for disputing redirects. AFD is for deletion. The second redirect was a reversion of a reversion. Discussion of all this belongs on the article talk page, where it already was, and this duplicate edit history should not be continued. Uncle G (talk) 08:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Withdrawing nomination, in light of new sources found.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 12:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Vinegarymass911. I will take redirect out of the proper name Sharmin Sultana Sumi and replace it with the content (and new sources) from this version. And I will change this title to a redirect. This AfD is no longer needed. Trackinfo (talk) 04:11, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.