Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Feral rhesus macaque

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Rhesus macaque#Feral colonies in the United States. the reason this is a redirect and not a merge is per KoA's note below and related edits. If someone wants to add further material and/or should this merit a standalone article at a point in the future, the info is under the redirect. Star Mississippi 01:43, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Feral rhesus macaque

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Not sure if subject matter warrants a standalone article. Most of the content can be merged into Rhesus macaque#Feral colonies in the United States Mooonswimmer 21:53, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:07, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:07, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge A whole section on a single loose monkey in Tampa Bay is undue weight and does not represent the concept of feral monkeys. Reywas92^Talk 23:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

None of the other sections have that problem however. Invasive Spices (talk) 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Keep Because the article is beyond stub length I think it would just become a candidate to unmerge some time in the future. But this merge effort has made me find[1] citations and add an entirely new location, Desecheo Puerto Rico. Invasive Spices (talk) 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Merge. If it ever establishes standalone notability as a topic, it can always be WP:SPLIT out. Length doesn't play into WP:GNG, and we can't guess what the future may hold for it due to WP:CRYSTAL policy. WP:DUE mention at the Macaque article can be accomplished though. KoA (talk) 21:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note that the merge is practically already done as of this recent edit, so it would just be a matter of a redirect at this point. The target article already has all the key details of this article, so we're dealing with a largely redundant prime for redirect article at this point.

In reality when a species has become invasive in some fashion, that is dealt with on the species page unless we get much more content than just this in order to justify a split. WP:PAGEDECIDE policy is what needs to be satisfied to maintain a separate article, and I see nothing that address that here in any depth in terms of the article sources/content or AfD comments. KoA (talk) 19:31, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - plenty of sources to establish notability, and merging all the relevant sourced information into the rhesus macaque article would give undue weight to that subject, which already has a summary in that article. Rlendog (talk) 15:19, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The sources only establish the notability of macaques in general (which is a given per WP:SPECIESOUTCOMES anyways) not for simply being feral. A species going invasive or escaping captivity is generally well within the domain of the species page for something of this small scale. Nothing exists that would really warrant going beyond a single section in a main article either for the merge. Everything in the current article is pretty pruneable and an easy merge briefly describing the few locations and keeping some of the tabloidy stuff brief. KoA (talk) 18:21, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per above, nothing in this article that cannot be sufficiently covered at rhesus macaque. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:20, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep a few release/escape locations makes them like Feral parakeets in Great Britain and Australian feral camel. LondonIP (talk) 01:35, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS arguments aren't appropriate at AFDs. KoA (talk) 18:35, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.