Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 Luxor hot air balloon crash

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The result was redirect to Hot air ballooning in Luxor. MelanieN (talk) 04:12, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2018 Luxor hot air balloon crash

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Tragic but this accident is no more notable than a bus accident. Not likely to have any lasting effect other than to those persons involved. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:34, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - We don't know yet per WP:RAPID. Because tourists are involved so maybe? Störm (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
My initial instinct would be to delete and redirect to List of ballooning accidents, if no grounds for further notability arise. Fatal balloon crashes are unusual, but not so unusual that such incidents are automatically notable. Robofish (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note that 2013 Luxor hot air balloon crash exists. Also that 4 balloon operators and airport officials are being held in police custody pending an investigation. And this: [1] article in the Guardian says that "Luxor has a history of hot air balloon crashes." so we do need an article on Ballooning in Luxor.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:02, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - 1 person died in this incident; 19 died in the 2013 crash so why are noting the latters existence? Location? That is completely irrelevant. At this time, all we have is routine coverage and it was far too "rapid" (yes the second part of the policy) to create an article that falls under what Wikipedia is not. Create an article when notability isn't pending.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:41, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See 2013 Luxor hot air balloon crash#Background; there is material for a useful article on Hot air ballooning in Luxor. Inviting editors including User:Undescribed, who built out that section, would contribute to the article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:43, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now I'm not seeing evidence of lasting impact, and lasting coverage can't be established just days later. There's a possibility, as a fatal commercial air accident, it'll lead to regulatory changes or at least recommendations but until then, nah. 89.240.130.238 (talk) 14:07, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - can be adequately covered in the Hot air ballooning in Luxor article. Mjroots (talk) 18:18, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Hot air ballooning in Luxor, which includes a brief mention of this crash.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:53, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per E.M.Gregory. Lepricavark (talk) 00:04, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above.TheLongTone (talk) 15:20, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Hot air ballooning in Luxor for potential expansion. Raymond3023 (talk) 15:59, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Hot air ballooning in Luxor as per everyone above. –Davey2010^Talk 23:24, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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