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Here's what I wrote on the talk page of the Whig party:
Aa Center party??? No -- RS call it "conservative"
Who calls the Whig party as a whole "center"? No one--Howe has the major book with a whole chapter on the conservative role. They were also modernizers (who wanted schools, religiosity, high tariffs, banks, railroads, national roads). Clay was indeed at the center of his Whig party but he was the #1 target for Democrats who spent decades denouncing him as a conservative. Gregory Bowen, argues that the two parties were polar opposite and highly ideological: "At the heart of Democratic ideology was a militant egalitarianism which contrasted sharply with the Whigs' support for equality of opportunity to produce a meritocratic society." [p 34]. Bowen does NOT call the Whigs a center of anything. Bowen states: "Ashworth makes clear how deeply the Jacksonian political parties were split over their views of the type of society the United States should be and how important questions of economic development were to that split....[Ashworth says] 'It was a clash of democracy with capitalism.'" [ p 35] Bowen also states that Whigs held, "self-interest in individualism should be subordinated to the interests of the organic society, espouse the necessity for restraint and duty, and resisted the rise of modern mass democratic politics" [p 34] Surely we all agree this is 'conservatism' on the right, not "center." Instead what happened is that in the 1850s, the new Republican Party managed to synthesize critical elements of both the Democratic and Whig ideologies. Bowen says the three major strands of antebellum political culture "evolved and moved toward a consensus by the late antebellum.. In the mid-1850s these central strands of American political culture would come together in the ideology of the newly emerged Republican Party." [p 36] Bowen puts the new Republican Party at the center, but he does NOT put the Whigs in the center. Rjensen (talk) 04:25, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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