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Requested move 26 September 2024
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Wild Wing (disambiguation) → Wild Wing – No clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, per Pageviews. Paradoctor (talk) 11:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose OP's graph clearly shows that Wild Wing Restaurants, the current primary topic, gets the majority of the pageviews. 162 etc. (talk) 12:12, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- That is not sufficient: WP:PRIMARYTOPIC:
primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic
(my emphasis). This is not the case here. - A further consideration is that Wild Wing has been directing some traffic to the restaurant chain that shouldn't have gone there. Experience has shown that in situation like this, pageviews of the alleged primary normally drop significantly relative to the other meanings, to the point where it becomes obvious that a primary never existed. Paradoctor (talk) 13:03, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Two-thirds of the pageviews go to the current primary topic. That's a clear WP:PT1. 162 etc. (talk) 13:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- 86664/155804 = 56%
- And you have not factored in the misdirected traffic. Paradoctor (talk) 13:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm disregarding "Wild Wings" which is a WP:PTM, and considering the views from 2024, which gives us a current picture[1]. That gives us 67%, or nearly 72% if we include both the article and the primary redirect. 162 etc. (talk) 14:45, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Still not accounting for the misdirected traffic.
- "disregarding": cherry picking. And how is a plural a PTM of the singular? By that measure, both Wild Wing Restaurant and Wild Wing Cafe are PTMs too, and Wild Wing should redirect to the mascot, which is the only exact match.
- 67, 72, whatever: 2:1 is not
much more
. Given the context, this is comfortably within the margin error, especially given that you're still not accounting for the misdirected traffic. Paradoctor (talk) 15:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)- It is "much more likely than any other single topic". 162 etc. (talk) 00:39, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm disregarding "Wild Wings" which is a WP:PTM, and considering the views from 2024, which gives us a current picture[1]. That gives us 67%, or nearly 72% if we include both the article and the primary redirect. 162 etc. (talk) 14:45, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Two-thirds of the pageviews go to the current primary topic. That's a clear WP:PT1. 162 etc. (talk) 13:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- That is not sufficient: WP:PRIMARYTOPIC:
- Support per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:55, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support. My rule of thumb is that the ratio of primary topic views vs. all other topic views should be 10:1, which has not been met. Steel1943 (talk) 19:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support – a pageview ratio of 3:2 does not a primary topic make. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. For reasons I haven't been able to figure out myself, the pageviews for Wild Wing Restaurants exploded in March 2023, and while they've reverted towards a new equilibrium since then, that new equilibrium is still comfortably higher than the pageviews for any other topic by this name. The plain language of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC states that a topic is primary by usage if it is
much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined
to be sought—and that threshold is met here. The primary topic thresholds proposed elsewhere in this discussion are not aligned with this guidance, and are not reflective of widespread practice in the titling space. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)- Last month it was 726 of 1332.
threshold is met here
is the very thing contested. So what does, IYO,much more than any other single topic
mean?new equilibrium
I don't see an equilibrium. What I see is slow decay.For reasons I haven't been able to figure out mysel
Might be spillover from a PTM: Man Sues Buffalo Wild Wings Over ‘Boneless’ Wings (Mar 14, 2023). Not the only issue BWW was in the news for in March 2023. Paradoctor (talk) 14:38, 3 October 2024 (UTC)- In that case, the pageviews might just be from base title advantage. jlwoodwa (talk) 17:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Ice Hockey, WikiProject Food and drink, WikiProject Film, and WikiProject Disambiguation have been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 15:27, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: The key issue being discussed is whether any of the disambiguated topics here meet WP:PTOPIC by pageviews (as there is no "standard" threshold), or if pageviews can be relied upon at all in this case ASUKITE 15:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support No obvious primary topic, views for the restaurant chain fluctuate heavily and sometimes are not much more than the other pages. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. The Kip (contribs) 19:35, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nomination; Crouch, Swale; Steel1943; jlwoodwa; ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ and The Kip. There are five entries listed upon the Wild Wing (disambiguation) page [the lead line should state, "Wild Wing or Wild Wings may refer to:"] and the eight-sentence stub delineating Wild Wing Restaurants does not appear to possess renown sufficient to dwarf the combined prominence of the remaining four entries. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:09, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Designating a primary topic by usage is not sufficiently clear cut. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)