Talk:Zug massacre

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Short description: 2001 mass shooting in the parliament of the Canton of Zug, Switzerland

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Reference to behoerdenwillkuer.ch

I seriously doubt that wikipedia is a place to promote that kind of conspiracy theory. Any thoughts? Mensi (talk) 15:02, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The picture caption just disappeared again. Can someoen help me out please?49.199.136.82 (talk) 12:40, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"... querulous vexatious grumbler..."

Do we really need to use this kind of language... I mean, pretty much in ANY context? Just seems like someone had too much fun with a thesaurus! 64.52.133.188 (talk) 10:52, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Narutolovehinata5 talk 02:23, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No prejudice against renominating once it has been brought to GA status.

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... that a Swiss man with a criminal record who was under surveillance of authorities purchased a pump-action shotgun without difficulty, then murdered 14 politicians using the same gun, nine days later?

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20110114080357/https://www.blick.ch/news/politik/massenmoerdern-wie-leibacher-auf-die-spur-kommen-164366/

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5x expanded by Il5v (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

il5v (talk) 23:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

For an article to be eligible it must be 5x expanded from the original, or succeed at a WP:GAN. This is a long way from either, I am afraid, though I appreciate your work on it. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:17, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PARAKANYAA In the past week there have 69 edits to the article (many of which have been yours, which I would also like to say I appreciate

), six of which have added over 1,000 additional bytes to the article, does this qualify as being expanded five times? il5v (talk) 13:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Il5v DYK goes by character count when it comes to expansion. At the start it was at 700 words, and is now at about 2000. 700 x 5 is 3500, so not quite 5x I am afraid. We could collaborate on taking it to WP:GAN, and it would be eligible if it passes. After my changes I do not think it is too far away, but there's probably still some work to do (and GAN can take a while...) PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:06, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PARAKANYAA The article seems to follow WP:GACR.

I've looked through each paragraph and there are no issues with grammar or punctuation, no spelling mistakes either and it seems to comply with WP:MOS.
From what I can tell it is verifiable (according to requirements of verifiability in the GACR6) however I might be wrong since I have not read all of WP:V yet.
In terms of broadness of the article's coverage, I'd say everything that can be said about the massacre has been said, it seems like essentially everything has been covered.
There's no bias, the only bias in this article I could imagine existing is any comments regarding Leibacher's conspiracy theory however every mention of his beliefs are highlighted by the fact that only he believed them.
No recent edit wars.
As it stands, the article contains four images, two maps and quotebox, all of which are relevant to the topic.

I couldn't find any videos that would contribute to encyclopedic value, so I'd say the article is well illustrated. What else should be done to this article before a WP:GAN? Like I said I haven't fully read WP:V so perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me could give their opinion for the time being. il5v (talk) 20:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say it's like 95% there, I think there are some verifiability issues where the citations got shuffled around and there's some other sources I could add. Otherwise, pretty close to good. I'll work on it and probably in the next day or two nominate it. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tightening of gun laws?

The 2017 Routledge book explicitly states that there were no gun changes, or at the very least far less than other countries. The 2022 Swissinfo piece says that there was a tightening of gun laws, but it does not actually say what these changes were. I cannot find any discussion of what gun laws changed a result of this, so I wonder if Swissinfo was just wrong? PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After searching I cannot find what this is referring to. There was some change after Rey-Bellet, but as far as I can tell, none after Zug. Academic books are considered more reliable than news usually, and since I can't find what the actual alleged change was I am going to remove this. Sometimes RS are wrong. And, the source is a description page for a documentary film and not the film itself. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]