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David Czyszczon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Semi-professional footballer who mostly spent his career in the reserve team. The only secondary source I found is Raciborz, a brief mention in transfer announcement, but not enough to merit a standalone article of himself. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. Nothing at de.wiki. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 21:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fritz Reuter Literary Archive (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Unreferenced since 2009. My BEFORE in English and German ("Fritz Reuter Literature Archive") in GS and GB yields nothing. De wiki article has a few refs but they are not easy for me to verify, and the notability of this archive is unclear. I would not be surprised if someone could rescue this, but well, this has been unreferenced for 15 years. Maybe this AfD will motivate someone to help? Otherwise, sorry, WP:V is clearly failed, and WP:GNG is not obvious. For all we know this can be some variant of Zhemao hoaxes. Ping User:Bearian who few days asked for this to be sourced or deleted at WT:GERMANY (nobody replied there so far...). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 15:35, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete as per nomination. I thought it might be rude, but I made an effort to get feedback first. Bearian (talk) 15:53, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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• Comment: subject does exist; apparently it was a private collection of Fritz Reuter related stuff by Hans-Joachim Griephan, and was merged into the Fritz Reuter Literaturmuseum in 2024. Some coverage about the merger in Nordkurier. I can't say how in-depth the offline sources at the German-language wiki article go, but with online sources gng wouldn't be passed. Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 21:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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List of tallest buildings in Lörrach (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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A small city in Germany with zero skyscrapers (defined as a building taller than 100m) and none planned. Similar case to List of tallest buildings in Gwalior, List of tallest buildings in Bradenton, Florida and List of tallest buildings in Macon, Georgia and many, many other AfDs that we have had over the last few years on similarly non-notable lists of buildings in cities where none of the buildings are actually that tall. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:44, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additional points for consideration:

• Firstly, the list has no navigational purpose as all of the buildings featured are not notable enough for their own Wikipedia article. For that matter, I don't think it meets any of the 3 purposes at WP:LISTPURP.
• Secondly, this topic does not have WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS. Individual news articles about a handful of the individual buildings in this city do not automatically make an article about the heights of all of the buildings in that city a notable topic.
• I see no evidence that the topic 'List of tallest buildings in Lörrach' is covered as a group by reliable secondary sources but I am happy to be proved wrong here.
• No significant high-rise buildings under construction or even planned currently so little chance of future notability; no point in sending to draft.
• The city is not the largest in Germany nor is it the capital.
• I really do not believe that a building simply being more than 40m tall makes it notable. It's an incredibly low bar. Can you imagine the reaction if we set the bar so low on a similar list for Tokyo or Chicago? There would be literally thousands of towers in those lists.
• The topic is already covered more than adequately at List of tallest buildings in Germany and List of tallest buildings by German federal state, so this list is redundant. Yes, I am aware that none of the buildings in Lörrach are actually tall enough to be in either of those lists but that, if anything, speaks for just how non-notable this topic is! Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:50, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete. Just no notability whatsoever. Procyon117 (talk) 13:54, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - more recently we have deleted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tallest buildings in Barrie, Ontario, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tallest buildings in Daegu and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tallest buildings in Lucknow (2nd nomination) with clear consensus. In my view, Lucknow and Daegu are much more prominent cities than Lörrach on a global scale so I don't see any precedence for having one on Lörrach. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• delete per ample precedent. What with the disappearance of the Emporis lists it's not even clear that these are the tallest buildings in the city, but even so these are on the short side even compared to the many other places whose lists have been deleted in the past. Mangoe (talk) 04:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Clear failure of WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Geschichte (talk) 10:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, as this list fails WP:NLIST. The skyline is so small that this list includes every single building above 40 meters. Incidentally, that is a very, very low bar to clear (in NYC, where I'm from, a 40-meter building wouldn't make the top 1,000 tallest buildings). – Epicgenius (talk) 13:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Friedrich Count of Lippe-Biesterfeld (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The article's significance is not demonstrated. The article only provides genealogical information, although the person in question did nothing noteworthy.--RobertVikman (talk) 20:59, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per above and my own standards for nobility. A redirect to the House is also reasonable. Bearian (talk) 04:01, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Schloss Ritzebüttel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No source to establish notability per GNG. ––kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 09:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep, the corresponding article on the German Wikipedia has several very good sources demonstrating notability (as well as a few iffy ones). Unfortunately they're cited as general referencing rather than specific citations (this is typical for German WP), which makes it hard to carry them over here to back up individual statements, and they're in book form. But they demonstrate the existence of sources, and we can't delete just because we haven't read sources that we definitely know exist. Elemimele (talk) 10:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Elemimele. Mccapra (talk) 00:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. Can anyone confirm whether or not the castle is a listed building? I haven't been able to find an official list. Rupples (talk) 13:42, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stefan Stoyke (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 20:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: This definitely seems like WP:SIGCOV, meeting WP:SPORTCRIT at least. JTtheOG (talk) 00:07, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. JTtheOG has found a good source here. Additional coverage available in Bild, Ostfriesen Zeitung, and Nordwest Zeitung. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:02, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  WP:BILD rules that one out. The OZ articles are freely inaccessible but the NZ article is purely routine. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Huh, TIL. I'll strike the Bild article accordingly. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 16:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sandkorn-Theater (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Created in 2011 as a translation from German wikipedia, hasn't expanded since 13 years. ––kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 17:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Just because it hasn't expanded doesn't mean it's not notable - unfortunately the German wikipedia only has one source so there'll have to be a source search done. SportingFlyer T·C 19:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The German Wikipedia article has no sources; it has a link to the theater's homepage only. Searching for reliable sources will be hard because it's a semiprofessional theater only, and most mentions will be in guidebooks that list just any other location in the city too, meaning they're no indicator of notability. 13 years and still less information in this article than on Maps shows how notable this location is.

  The reason this article is still live on the German Wikipedia is because there, notability is not based on independent coverage. By the way, there are actually three theaters in this building, and there is no reason to prefer one over the other, so rename this article or create articles for the other two theaters too?

  I tend to soft delete or at least draftify. While WP:Deletion is not cleanup and I don't want to exclude the possibility that the theater has notability, Wikipedia's reputation is based on articles with reliable information; in this form, the article should never have existed. Killarnee (talk) 02:30, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I didn't find that to be the case with a source search - there's multiple mentions in both Google Books and Google Scholar, though nothing which instantly tells me that it is clearly notable. I'm not sure it is notable independently of the complex where the two other theatres exist, but I think there's a chance it is notable if someone wants to adopt it. SportingFlyer T·C 03:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  It's in the nature of businesses like theaters that there is something published, because publicity is important for this branch. But do the sources you found just mention the theater or are they about the theater itself? Killarnee (talk) 04:37, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  My German isn't very good - that's why I mentioned that I didn't see anything that was a clear pass, just mentions, but it has been mentioned more than other articles I've occasionally come across at Afd. SportingFlyer T·C 07:12, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Raimund Berens (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Cannot find any worthwhile coverage of this person. Run-of-the-mill businessman/film producer. Fails WP:GNG. Edwardx (talk) 11:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Sources that pass notability not found in the before search result and article has been in violation of BLP guidelines for lack of sources since 2013. Mekomo (talk) 14:39, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Till Thomsen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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A german curler who appeared once in the 1996 World Men's Curling Championship. There is nothing notable about him SolxrgashiUnited (talk) 13:46, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. Passes WP:CURLING for having played in the World Championships.-- Earl Andrew - talk 14:33, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Earl Andrew. Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 12:19, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unless an editor can furnish several references to reliable sources independent of Thomsen that devote significant coverage to Thomsen. According to WP:ATHLETE, The article should provide reliable sources showing that the subject meets the general notability guideline. Meeting a special notability guideline indicates that a topic likely meets the GNG, but is not a guarantee that it does. So, now is the time to furnish the evidence or let the article be deleted. Cullen328 (talk)

Speed Niggs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Only found sources in German-language zines which are likely unreliable. Opening this rather than a PROD on the possibility that someone with access to a German-specific archive could find more on this band than I did, but seeing as all the sources I saw were already German I have my doubts. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:51, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hydra Ventures (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:NCORP.Insufficient WP:ORGCRIT sources.

Edit: @WikiOriginal-9:, you withdrew the nomination last time. Do you have any comments on whether or not this article should be deleted?

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Bettina Valdorf (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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There is no evidence of WP:SIGCOV and after doing a search I could find any additional of coverage in reliable sources. I did find some passing mentions, but nothing in-depth or evidence to prove notability. Grahaml35 (talk) 01:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Weak keep - For winning a bronze in the ISSF World Cup [1] , [2] Ayokakesy2023 (talk) 11:48, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Weak keep. Independent coverage is what we need, and I believe I found some bits at [3] [4] [5] Geschichte (talk)

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• Keep per WP:NBASIC.dsrprj (talk) 22:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

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