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Hi, I saw you removed the categories I added to the Hall of Valor article and wanted to ask if the categories "Lore: Characters" and "Deities" should be removed from the Tsun and Alduin (Skyrim) articles because they are not lore articles as well, thanks. Fundom user (talk) 09:04, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Additional question about categories[]
Is the Pelinal Whitestrake article a lore page? It has the {{KnightsCharacters}} infobox, but it seems to feature mostly lore-based information, it also has both lore and Oblivion categories. Fundom user (talk) 13:25, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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Hi GreyFox, I'm writing to inform you that your application for administrator was approved with an official vote tally of 13–0–0. I have updated your user rights and associated pages to reflect your promotion. I look forward to working with you more closely as a fellow admin. Happy editing! —Atvelonis (talk) 17:19, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello, about the portal pages[]
such as Portal:Skyrim, i noticed there's no right sidebar, how did you guys do that? I would like to understand, thanks in advance. ☞ Dagosten < Talk | Edits > 01:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Community Roundtable[]
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2021 Raffle[]
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Of ellipses and mer[]
Greetings!
I've noticed your edits to Gavros and Malur Rethan, and now I have two questions:
- What's wrong with ellipsis-as-a-single-character and why shoulnd't it be used? It is definitely used in the game and in the lang file of the game.
- What's wrong with links in the dialogue and why shouldn't they be used? I thought it was normal. —This unsigned comment is by TinyClayMan (talk • contribs) 06:31, 18 August 2022 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!
Hi, I am Fandom's new Senior Community Manager for Gaming[]
Hello there! My name is Jieyang and I'm going around saying hi to admins in the community. I joined about two weeks ago but you'll be seeing me around more in the future. I'm also looking forward to ES6...... whenever that comes out.
You can learn more about me through my blog. Feel free to drop me a message on Discord as well! Itsjieyang (talk) 18:11, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Light theme bug in Portal:Skyrim[]
Hi! Portal:Skyrim page formatting is partially inconsistent with wiki's light theme. Can you fix it? Frostvalor (talk) 19:22, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- It's fixed now. Thank you! Frostvalor (talk) 19:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Clarification[]
You put this: {{Reupload}} on files I upload, may I get clarification on what I'm supposed to do/what the issue is? Altmer Scholar (talk) 06:33, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
Editing Enchantable Items[]
Hey, when you were editing that page, did you find that it responded really slowly and got warnings from the browser? I'm trying to figure out if the size of the page is a problem for Wikia or if it's just our network out here. Thanks. DaBarkspawn (talk) 17:10, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the confirmation! DaBarkspawn (talk) 20:02, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
CC[]
Nice work with the CC material! —Atvelonis (talk) 05:57, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Walkthrough videos[]
Hi, I own a YouTube channel Delikuzz and I would like to ask if I can provide the wiki with my links to quest guides for TES V: Skyrim if I guarantee to solve any problems that might accidentally arise due to licenses. I know that the wiki does not normally allow such a thing, that's why I'm sending you this question if possible I can help to responsibly enrich the game guides in this way. Alternatively, the videos will only be available on my channel as it has been until now. Thanks a lot in advance for your reply! Petr
—This unsigned comment is by Orlanko851 (talk • contribs) 13:36, 9 April 2023 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!
Redirects and Pipes[]
I've given some thought to the note you left on my talk page a few weeks ago. The following things are true:
- You want me to do performance testing. This is real work, like the kind of work as a senior software developer that I get paid for and being an editor here is a volunteer gig. The level of effort is not commensurate with the minor issue at hand, the request is not reasonable. Furthermore, it should be obvious from even a casual understanding of network protocols: sending something from A to B to C must take longer than sending something from A to C directly. Incidentally, I have written code for Atvelonis for this wiki before. I guess he inspires me to contribute to this community in a way that you do not.
- Two points about "Also, he cites a random Fandom Help page. Those pages are not really... documentation in a strict sense."
- First, my pronouns are they/them/theirs (you can see this on my Discord profile, for example) and I would appreciate not being misgendered in the future.
- Wikia (aka "Fandom") help pages are the canonical source of information for all of their platforms. Because Wikia owns the platform this wiki is on and due to the Wikia wiki language being different than standard wikimedia language (as used for example by Wikipedia) there is no other authoritative source on the wiki dialect we use here. Furthermore, as I believe I mentioned earlier, there are no references whatsoever to this redirects practice anywhere in our style guides. Your casual dismissal of it as "random" makes me fear for the wiki because your job as administrator in part is to help guide editors to using the standards we are given, not making up ones you happen to like, especially in the absence of anything in the style guides or published written documentation.
- "When DaBarkspawn says that this is not "what redirects are for," I am not really sure what he means. In this case Famy/Infamy are both valid search terms..." shows me that you aren't clear on what is going on here. When someone searches, either via a web search engine or via the wiki internal search for the term
infamy, then yes, absolutely redirect them to the Fame page. But if they are search for that term, they aren't searching for other pages that happen to mention that term. The SEO considerations for pages that mention another page are nearly nonexistent, especially outside of the editor community. This is why this is not an appropriate use of redirects. The fact that we have a category of redirects should speak to the actual search use case, not this idea (which I have not seen on any other wiki) to use redirects in pages.
Therefore,
I am not going to conform to this practice as an editor. I am not persuaded by your arguments, nor will I expend excess energy on a performance task for the sake of this minor point. If you want to follow me around and waste spend your time changing this, that is up to you. I guess it is one way to inflate one's edit count. I am also, for the sake of the community, not going to edit war with you on this, that would be pointless.
DaBarkspawn (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry about the misgendering. That was my mistake, and we will be more attentive about that in the future. And I don't think GF meant any harm in passing along the Slack discussion. My apologies for any offense we've caused.
- Fandom's Help pages are authoritative ex officio, but I'd be hesitant to rely on them heavily as they are not written by engineers nor with any real content/user persona strategy. They tend to lack context that administrators need to make specific decisions, in part because Fandom's content team/underpaid Wiki Reps are writing for a large, non-technical audience and in part because they don't employ any dedicated technical writers to begin with.
- MediaWiki redirects aren't exactly normal HTTP redirects and don't universally generate 302 requests, as I understand it. Most discussion in wiki circles about redirects in the software is related to editorial concerns (maintenance, cleanup, deletion, etc.) and not performance. Wikipedia's help page on redirects describes their utility in some depth. On this page, the section § Do not "fix" links to redirects that are not broken offers a number of reasons why this practice is unnecessary from an editorial standpoint and why redirect links are generally OK on articles. Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups/About fixing redirects has more technical information about performance. While off-site (or maybe inter-wiki) redirects can possibly be considered expensive (or at least "not free"), local MediaWiki redirects are designed to minimize performance hits. The database is optimized for READ ops in general and the particular strategy for redirect loading is not considered expensive.
- I had meant to ask Fandom's engineering team for some real-world data on site performance and practical redirect significance when I was in Atlanta for Community Connect, but I got distracted by most of the discussion about structured data (which, though unrelated, could eventually have a measurable impact on performance, if it offers us better alternatives to expensive DPL calls or parser functions, which do meaningfully increase load times—we sometimes use them anyway for various reasons, being careful to cache results where possible and avoid truly excessive performance drag). Offhand, the only tangential info I have about loading times is that—according to a presenter during the event—the average loading time on Fandom is apparently about 5.25 (!!!) seconds (down from 7, apparently). That seems an absurd length of time to me—my impression that loading time was closer to 3 seconds at most—but logged-in users receive fewer ads than the general readership, so who knows.
- The site's JavaScript is likely to be more of a factor in determining page performance for users than an extra SELECT. Unfortunately we have little control over Fandom's implementation of ads and general JS bloat, though we try to be good about not importing extra scripts on this wiki unless needed. —Atvelonis (talk) 20:04, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Admin+[]
Hey there! I’m reaching out to introduce the Admin+ program (if you haven’t heard about it already!) & let you know I’m here if you have any questions about it. Take a look at the details here & feel free to send over any questions you have. pikushi ✧.* 14:26, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Question on Writing Pages for both ES-Skyrim Wiki and Skyrim Wiki:[]
Should I source links between ES-Skyrim Wiki to Skyrim Wiki or should I keep them separate? And if I make a page on one wiki, should I make a page on the other? —This unsigned comment is by ACcaptive (talk • contribs) 00:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!
- With what I was meaning on my first question, I was talking about both Skyrim wikis within Fandom, the ES Skyrim wiki and the stand-alone Skyrim wiki, both being with Fandom. They both seem to have similar pages to each other.
- Asking if I can link between them!?
- Both wikis:
Numbers[]
I think that instead of reverting the change, I will later moot the style guide rule as it is ungrammatical and a violation of basic English writing. DaBarkspawn (talk) 07:55, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Re: Edit Warring[]
"Hello,
Re revision 3249017, please do not redo an edit that has been undone by another user. This is edit warring and is against our policies. Instead, please reach out to the user directly on their talk page or on our Discord server to try to come to an agreement instead of going back and forth. If necessary, an administrator can step in to help mediate. Further instances of edit warring may result in a block.
Thanks,
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It was never my intention to redo an edit and cause an edit war. I never pressed the word 'undo' next to Rupuzioks in the history page; that's an independent edit. Apparently, I worded some trivia in a way that sounded biased to English speakers, and Rupuzioks pointed that out. Therefore, I made sure that the trivia you could see in the history of revisions for Second Empire doesn't sound biased at all. If you dig a little deeper in the history of edits for that article you can see what I'm referring to. I hope that clears things up. Dragon Scholar (talk) 18:24, 12 December 2023 (UTC)