User talk:Xeror
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Is it really necessary to create new "half" icons, when the same result can be achieved with existing half-width icons? Useddenim (talk) 15:27, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Copyright status: File:Emblem of Ako, Hyogo.svg
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JuTa 07:13, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Copyright status: File:Flag of Ajigasawa, Aomori.svg
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Thanks for uploading File:Flag of Ajigasawa, Aomori.svg. I notice that the file page either doesn't contain enough information about the license or it contains contradictory information about the license, so the copyright status is unclear.
If you created this file yourself, then you must provide a valid copyright tag. For example, you can tag it with {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all}} to release it under the multi-license GFDL plus Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike All-version license or you can tag it with {{PD-self}} to release it into the public domain. (See Commons:Copyright tags for the full list of license tags that you can use.) If you did not create the file yourself or if it is a derivative of another work that is possibly subject to copyright protection, then you must specify where you found it (e.g. usually a link to the web page where you got it), you must provide proof that it has a license that is acceptable for Commons (e.g. usually a link to the terms of use for content from that page), and you must add an appropriate license tag. If you did not create the file yourself and the specific source and license information is not available on the web, you must obtain permission through the VRT system and follow the procedure described there. Note that any unsourced or improperly licensed files will be deleted one week after they have been marked as lacking proper information, as described in criteria for deletion. If you have uploaded other files, please confirm that you have provided the proper information for those files, too. If you have any questions about licenses please ask at Commons:Village pump/Copyright or see our help pages. Thank you. |
JuTa 07:14, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Copyright status: File:Flag of Ako, Hyogo.svg
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Thanks for uploading File:Flag of Ako, Hyogo.svg. I notice that the file page either doesn't contain enough information about the license or it contains contradictory information about the license, so the copyright status is unclear.
If you created this file yourself, then you must provide a valid copyright tag. For example, you can tag it with {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all}} to release it under the multi-license GFDL plus Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike All-version license or you can tag it with {{PD-self}} to release it into the public domain. (See Commons:Copyright tags for the full list of license tags that you can use.) If you did not create the file yourself or if it is a derivative of another work that is possibly subject to copyright protection, then you must specify where you found it (e.g. usually a link to the web page where you got it), you must provide proof that it has a license that is acceptable for Commons (e.g. usually a link to the terms of use for content from that page), and you must add an appropriate license tag. If you did not create the file yourself and the specific source and license information is not available on the web, you must obtain permission through the VRT system and follow the procedure described there. Note that any unsourced or improperly licensed files will be deleted one week after they have been marked as lacking proper information, as described in criteria for deletion. If you have uploaded other files, please confirm that you have provided the proper information for those files, too. If you have any questions about licenses please ask at Commons:Village pump/Copyright or see our help pages. Thank you. |
JuTa 07:15, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi and thanks for clarifying the differences between symbols and emblems of municipalities in Japan. One tool I've found tremendously useful is c:Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot, which can be used to move images between categories in bulk. It's not immediately obvious how to use it, but it is quite powerful and has replaced probably 90% of the category maintenance tasks for which I previously used HotCat. Check it out and see if it helps. Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 16:22, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Please don't use Cat-a-lot to simply remove categories. Such removal needs explanation in an edit summary. I have asked you for explanations at Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/04/Category:Flags of Wayne County, Michigan. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:35, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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Rename requests
[edit]Hi. Please note that a rename request based solely on perception of grammar is not particularly within the scope of rename request. See Com:FR — billinghurst sDrewth 07:34, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
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Town / municipality flags in the United Kingdom
[edit]I have uploaded a number of town and village flags in the UK, one by one as new flags are devised. In 2018 you moved the contents of the Category 'SVG town and village flags in the United Kingdom' to 'Category:SVG flags of municipalities in the United Kingdom'. It was well meant, but there is a problem: these are not municipalities. A municipality is a local authority, but villages are just settlements, vaguely defined, and their flags are an informal, local effort with no officialdom behind them. Sometimes there is a parish council that smiles on them, but mostly not. Some flags were adopted specifically because the village or town has no municipal authority of its own, so the residents wanted a mark to say "here were are", like St Anne's on Sea or Poole (the latest to appear).
The Poole flag is an interesting one: it is the banner of the arms of the old borough, adopted because the municipal borough was abolished a year ago.
That said, some of the flags are those of municipal bodies - the flags for the Cities of Aberdeen, Belfast, Edinburgh, London and Portsmouth are banners of the arms of the city in question. Birmingham is questionable - Birmingham is a city with a city council, but the flag was adopted for the place not the council.
I was going to recreate the old Category, but as we have Category:Town and village flags of the United Kingdom and they are all SVG, it is unnecessary, but I will when less busy move the non-municipal flags out of the municipalities one. I hope this is not contentious. Hogweard (talk) 09:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Not all Category:Products of bakeries are Category:Baked food
[edit]for example, mousse is not.
on the other hand, not all baked food is "Products of bakeries". home baked food is not.
as such, it's necessary to have a cat for products produced by bakeries, just as necessary as a cat for food produced by restaurants. RZuo (talk) 12:29, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- @RZuo: A bakery is by definition a place selling baked food. They may also sell drinks or other stuff but it does not mean that the category name needs to be including all the products they sell. It is just their business decisions. And homemade baked food could be in the category as well, if there is any. Xeror (talk) 12:38, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
I had to invite you to a debate over the 章 term
[edit]I am having a dispute with a user on Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#The_章_debate. You are invited to take part in the debate. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 02:26, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Autopatrol given
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Hi Xeror
[edit]Are going to continue modifying Japanese municipal flags? SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 23:33, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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Jmabel ! talk 15:19, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Please, in the future, get consensus for moves like Category:Campuses of the University of Washington => Category:University of Washington campuses. The earlier name was parallel to Category:Presidents of the University of Washington, Category:Alumni of the University of Washington, and Category:Faculty of the University of Washington; the new one is not. I'm not going to fight about it now that it is done, but before I changed your original approach here, I started a CfD so you had a chance to comment. - Jmabel ! talk 17:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: Almost all colleges' and universities' campuses have the format places + campus(es) naming. See Category:Campuses in the United States. This is also true on English Wikipedia. And they also have alumni and faculty at the end as well. IMO, putting them at the end not only saves a few unnecessary characters, but also puts the emphasis on the place. Xeror (talk) 13:42, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- And makes it more difficult for non-native English speakers, many of whom have native languages where a noun cannot be used as an adjective. - Jmabel ! talk 15:21, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: In this case, they are not nouns used as adjectives but compound nouns, similar to ball pen, office desk, bow tie, movie theater, and car park, which exist in many languages. In real life, we hear more often a Harvard alumnus and a Columbia professor than an alumnus of Harvard University and a professor of Columbia University. However, we should keep the word "University" here because sometimes there are confusions if it is omitted. Avoiding "of" is just simpler, especially for the case when the institution name has an "of". Xeror (talk) 09:59, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- And makes it more difficult for non-native English speakers, many of whom have native languages where a noun cannot be used as an adjective. - Jmabel ! talk 15:21, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
Campuses categories
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Mass reversion and blanking is unhelpful for svg mons
[edit]By removing all the plain mon images [1], you removed them from the larger category tree, such as Category:Circled mon. I'm reverting your edits. Please discuss instead of making mass "minor" reverts. Its very disruptive. Smasongarrison (talk) 15:43, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- An alternative solution would have been to propose renaming the category. Smasongarrison (talk) 15:53, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: It seems like you do not understand how Japanese emblems work. They function like seals and coats of arms. However, many of the Japanese emblems and mons were only specified in shape but not color. Some of them, especially the new ones with more than one color, do have specific colors. The colors used in the most of the monochromic emblems are mere suggestions by the municipalities at the present day. Those in black are basically "colorless", i.e. no color suggested. Categorizing them in color does not make sense. Please do not put them in color categories. Xeror (talk) 23:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't understand the relevance here. The mon itself may be colorless, but the image of the mon has a color. I'm not classifying the general concept of the mon. I don't understand why you think it doesn't make sense. If you have a problem with the classification of color, you can nominate the category, but please don't revert the images until this gets sorted out. Smasongarrison (talk) 23:17, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Please don't revert the changes enmass [2] Smasongarrison (talk) 23:20, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: It is relevant because the category does not describe the mons or emblems it contains. It is misleading to call it a black round emblem when it is indeed colorless. Also please do not put any logos, emblems, flags, coats of arms, seals, and word marks under any icon categories. These categories should only contain images that fall under icon (computing). Xeror (talk) 23:43, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think you are taking an overly ridge definition of icon. Per your link: "an icon is a pictogram or ideogram displayed on a computer screen in order to help the user navigate a computer system." Smasongarrison (talk) 00:48, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: And emblem (and other images I mentioned) would not fall into that definition. It would not help the user to navigate a computer system. Xeror (talk) 14:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Many emblems are used as icons on wikipedia. Smasongarrison (talk) 19:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: And emblem (and other images I mentioned) would not fall into that definition. It would not help the user to navigate a computer system. Xeror (talk) 14:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think you are taking an overly ridge definition of icon. Per your link: "an icon is a pictogram or ideogram displayed on a computer screen in order to help the user navigate a computer system." Smasongarrison (talk) 00:48, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't understand the relevance here. The mon itself may be colorless, but the image of the mon has a color. I'm not classifying the general concept of the mon. I don't understand why you think it doesn't make sense. If you have a problem with the classification of color, you can nominate the category, but please don't revert the images until this gets sorted out. Smasongarrison (talk) 23:17, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: It seems like you do not understand how Japanese emblems work. They function like seals and coats of arms. However, many of the Japanese emblems and mons were only specified in shape but not color. Some of them, especially the new ones with more than one color, do have specific colors. The colors used in the most of the monochromic emblems are mere suggestions by the municipalities at the present day. Those in black are basically "colorless", i.e. no color suggested. Categorizing them in color does not make sense. Please do not put them in color categories. Xeror (talk) 23:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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Removing categories
[edit]Is there any consensus or even discussion for your interpretation of flags with inscriptions? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:53, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: I suggest you to take a look at Category:Inscribed flags, A and decide if those flags with lots of letters would fit in the category. Keep in mind that there are hundreds of flags with inscribed seals that contain many letters each. This would turn those categories into Scramble Game. Xeror (talk) 06:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Is there any consensus or even discussion for your interpretation of flags with inscriptions? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: Feel free to start a discussion if you think that it is necessary. I personally believe that no one would search for a flag of a government agency with name containing some letter "e" in its name. Including those flags would take away the attention to those flags that truly belong there. Imagine you try to look for a flag that has a single "A" but you have to go through pages of flags with seal that has an "A" in it. I'd love to hear a counterargument. Xeror (talk) 06:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't understand why you refuse to answer my yes or no question. I don't know what to do when someone communicates this way. I want to know if there is any consensus or even discussion for your interpretation of flags with inscriptions. Is there? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: I do not understand why you keep asking for consensus when there is no counterargument. What discussion are you looking for? If you disagree, then feel free to start a discussion to reach a consensus. Xeror (talk) 06:56, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm just asking a yes or no question. I don't understand what is happening here. Since you refuse to answer, I suppose I have to guess that the answer is "no" and I'm going to ask you to stop unilaterally removing these categories. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:58, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: What are we discussing here? We only need consensus if there is any disagreement. However, you refuse to disagree but you insist that those flags should be in those categories. If you want to go technical, I suggest you to look at the guidelines for over-categorization. Xeror (talk) 07:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is wild to me. I'm just trying to ask a question about if something has happened in the past or not. It's really simple, but somehow, something is not being communicated. Maybe I can try again. I did x. You undid x because you said, "This should not be done". My question is: are you the only person who thinks this should not be done or was there some other group of fellow editors who all agreed this should not be done? It's just a simple request. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: Why don't you tell me what you disagree with? If we cannot resolve our disagreements, then we can start a discussion thread and ask someone else's opinion on this. It is as simple as this. Xeror (talk) 07:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oh man, you're answer my question with a question. I'm really lost here. This is simple: I added a bunch of categories where flags had a character inscribed on them and you removed a bunch of them with the rationale "Categories with single-letter inscribed flags should be reserved for flags predominantly inscribed with a single letter." We do not agree, which I thought was obvious. I'm asking when you make this normative claim, are you imposing this standard unilaterally or has anyone else conferred about this standard and now you're just imposing it? Please, I'm begging you to actually answer my question. I don't know what I can do here if you just don't answer and instead give me more questions or contingencies or hypotheticals. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: I do not know if there was any discussion on this before. If there was, I did not participate in it. Now, since we do not agree on this, I have started a new discussion on this. Please feel free to leave your arguments on there. Xeror (talk) 08:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks kindly. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: I do not know if there was any discussion on this before. If there was, I did not participate in it. Now, since we do not agree on this, I have started a new discussion on this. Please feel free to leave your arguments on there. Xeror (talk) 08:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oh man, you're answer my question with a question. I'm really lost here. This is simple: I added a bunch of categories where flags had a character inscribed on them and you removed a bunch of them with the rationale "Categories with single-letter inscribed flags should be reserved for flags predominantly inscribed with a single letter." We do not agree, which I thought was obvious. I'm asking when you make this normative claim, are you imposing this standard unilaterally or has anyone else conferred about this standard and now you're just imposing it? Please, I'm begging you to actually answer my question. I don't know what I can do here if you just don't answer and instead give me more questions or contingencies or hypotheticals. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: Why don't you tell me what you disagree with? If we cannot resolve our disagreements, then we can start a discussion thread and ask someone else's opinion on this. It is as simple as this. Xeror (talk) 07:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is wild to me. I'm just trying to ask a question about if something has happened in the past or not. It's really simple, but somehow, something is not being communicated. Maybe I can try again. I did x. You undid x because you said, "This should not be done". My question is: are you the only person who thinks this should not be done or was there some other group of fellow editors who all agreed this should not be done? It's just a simple request. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: What are we discussing here? We only need consensus if there is any disagreement. However, you refuse to disagree but you insist that those flags should be in those categories. If you want to go technical, I suggest you to look at the guidelines for over-categorization. Xeror (talk) 07:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm just asking a yes or no question. I don't understand what is happening here. Since you refuse to answer, I suppose I have to guess that the answer is "no" and I'm going to ask you to stop unilaterally removing these categories. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:58, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: I do not understand why you keep asking for consensus when there is no counterargument. What discussion are you looking for? If you disagree, then feel free to start a discussion to reach a consensus. Xeror (talk) 06:56, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't understand why you refuse to answer my yes or no question. I don't know what to do when someone communicates this way. I want to know if there is any consensus or even discussion for your interpretation of flags with inscriptions. Is there? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: Feel free to start a discussion if you think that it is necessary. I personally believe that no one would search for a flag of a government agency with name containing some letter "e" in its name. Including those flags would take away the attention to those flags that truly belong there. Imagine you try to look for a flag that has a single "A" but you have to go through pages of flags with seal that has an "A" in it. I'd love to hear a counterargument. Xeror (talk) 06:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Is there any consensus or even discussion for your interpretation of flags with inscriptions? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)