Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives June 04 2024

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Consensual review

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File:BYD_Dolphin_(Global_version)_IMG_9517.jpg

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  • Nomination BYD Dolphin (Global version) in Ulm --Alexander-93 10:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Oppose  Neutral I don't understand why nearly all your images are cropped so elongated and flat. Is this supposed to be a trademark? -- Spurzem 11:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Comment The main object in this image is the vehicle being charged. The BYD and the charging station have IMHO enough space to the boundaries of the image. More space at the bottom/top would distract the viewer from the main objects. Please discuss.--Alexander-93 19:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
If I remember correctly, I didn't vote against, but suggested that the photos advertised as QI should not be squeezed together again and again. If there is enough space above and below the main subject, no one will be distracted. -- Spurzem 13:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support I don't see a problem with the image. Cropping is OK as long as we're not talking about downsizing and it serves to improve the image on display.--Peulle 09:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support No problem with the aspect ratio. --Milseburg 11:45, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support The subject is the car, IMO the crop is quite perfect here. Picture is also good otherwise. --Plozessor 15:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Milseburg 13:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Степная_ящерица.jpg

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  • Nomination Steppe Agama in Karakiya-karakol sanctuary. Karakiya District, Mangystau Region, Kazakhstan. By User:Ezra Sheyner --Красный 05:37, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose noise , the focus only on the head --TOUMOU 06:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support I disagree. Somewhat low DOF, but focus is ok, and the noise level is acceptable. --Smial 11:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Comment It looks more like a portrait than a nature photography. I can't decide whether it's good or bad. -- Екатерина Борисова 07:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Understandable that not the whole animal can be sharp, but the sharp area is too small for my taste. --Plozessor 16:26, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I'm sorry, but I feel the body should not be that out of focus, it makes it look as if its head had been attached from a different photo. Nacaru 23:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose → Declined   --Milseburg 13:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Antílope acuático (Kobus ellipsiprymnus), parque nacional del Lago Mburo, Uganda, 2024-02-01, DD 40.jpg

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  • Nomination Waterbucks (Kobus ellipsiprymnus), Lake Mburo National Park, Uganda --Poco a poco 16:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Oppose The author is not a Wikipedia member. --Remontees 23:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  • This series of comments looks like vandalism. Please discuss. --Екатерина Борисова 02:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support Per Екатерина. Robert Flogaus-Faust FYI. --Plozessor 09:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Question What about me? The comment by User:Remontees is not understandable. Wikipedia membership is not required here. User:Poco a poco is an administrator on Commons who contributed lots of great images, so he is certainly a commoner. I don't know whether this vote is the result of a software bug, or whether it was accidentally misplaced or even intentional vandalism and I won't speculate about this. However, I am not entirely sure about this image because a large part of the animal looks rather blurry (on the left side), even though its head looks good. --Robert Flogaus-Faust 12:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Comment Again somebody who is assessing without being in the condition to do so? I'm a Commoner for over 15 years, uploaded about 30,000 images to the project, 1,000 of them featured, admin,... speechless Poco a poco 13:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support Quality Image! --Scotch Mist 14:57, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support The objection seems groundless.--Peulle 09:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support Looks very much like a QI to me. Nacaru 23:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality (for sure!!) and sorry for my misjudgement, I didn't know that it was the same person (not obvious btw, thanks for the one who opened a discussion on my personal discussion page). --Remontees 22:43, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Total: 5 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Milseburg 13:50, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Antïlopes_acuáticos_(Kobus_ellipsiprymnus),_parque_nacional_del_Lago_Mburo,_Uganda,_2024-02-01,_DD_41.jpg

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  • Nomination Waterbucks (Kobus ellipsiprymnus), Lake Mburo National Park, Uganda --Poco a poco 16:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Oppose The author is not a Wikipedia member. --Remontees 23:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
    Author is the long-time Wiki member and it's quite easy to verify this fact. Your objection looks very strange. --Екатерина Борисова 02:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support Per Екатерина. --Plozessor 09:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support IMO this image is good for QI. --Robert Flogaus-Faust 12:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support--Peulle 09:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality (for sure!!) and sorry for my misjudgement, I didn't know that it was the same person (not obvious btw, thanks for the one who opened a discussion on my personal discussion page). --Remontees 22:43, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Milseburg 13:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Antílope_acuático_(Kobus_ellipsiprymnus_defassa),_parque_nacional_del_Lago_Mburo,_Uganda,_2024-02-01,_DD_25.jpg

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  • Nomination Waterbucks (Kobus ellipsiprymnus), Lake Mburo National Park, Uganda --Poco a poco 16:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Good quality. --Remontees 23:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The author is not a Wikipedia member. --Remontees 23:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Please explain! Poco a poco has been a Wikimedia user since 2008.--ArildV 08:37, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Comment Something off here, both the supporting and the opposing vote have the same timestamp from Remontees. --Plozessor 09:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Comment Hopefully it is just some copy-paste error and and not bad faith. --ArildV 18:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality (for sure!!) and sorry for my misjudgement, I didn't know that it was the same person (not obvious btw, thanks for the one who opened a discussion on my personal discussion page). So calm down, I'm not ill-willed as you can see you can have a discussion on my personal discussion page. No problem. :) --Remontees 22:43, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support The author is a Wikimedia user and the picture is excellent. --Plozessor 09:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality. --Robert Flogaus-Faust 12:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support High Quality Image! --Scotch Mist 15:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support --ArildV 18:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support I don't see a problem here. I annulled the intital pro vote as a user can only vote once for each image.--Peulle 09:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support Very good quality --Jakubhal 11:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Total: 7 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Milseburg 13:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Warsaw 2023 012 Zygmunt Column and Tower Tops.jpg

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  • Nomination Tops Sigismund's Column & Royal Castle Tower, Warsaw --Scotch Mist 07:55, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Promotion Quality is good. But needs a more meaningful file name and on the file page a specific description of the image content instead of general information about Warsaw --Milseburg 14:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
    Thanks for your review - the file name is essentially compliant with QI guidelines (meaningful name\frequent categorizing), the caption includes image specific information and the description, as well as providing some background history contains direct Wikipedia links to both Sigismund's Column and the Royal Castle, which are also referenced in the categories. --Scotch Mist 08:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC) I don't think so. File name and caption are too general. In the long description you have to look for Sigismund's Column for a long time and Zygmunt's Tower is not mentioned at all. The content of the image are these two. Both are necessary. Everything else just obscures what is actually important. --Milseburg 09:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
    Given the relatively recent introduction of captions perhaps there should be a wider discussion on this subject relative to whether this image is acceptable for QI? --Scotch Mist 10:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Comment IMO the file name clearly fulfils criterion 2 of the file renaming guideline Commons:File renaming. This guideline lists an example "File:Paris 319.jpg" as a meaningless or ambiguous name ("only broad location"). In addition, the English description is bad because it contains a large and confusing quantity of information about the city, not just about the subject of the photo. The Polish description is shorter, but just about the city and the photographer's gallery. --Robert Flogaus-Faust (talk) 23:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Comment Agree with Robert. File name should be more specific, and English description contains information that belongs into a Wikipedia article, not into the description of "what does this picture show". Also, not sure if it is written anywhere, but I think if a picture has descriptions in multiple languages, they should be identical. In this case, Polish description is totally different from the English one. I'd rename the file to something like "Sigimunds Column and Zygmunds Tower in Warsaw 2023.jpg" and replace the English description with a translation of the Polish one. --Plozessor 04:27, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 Comment When renaming a file, the existing file name in a case like this should remain unchanged as a substring, as it is obviously a sorting criterion for the uploader. In any case, I get a sore throat when standardization fanatics think they have to remove my image numbers or other abbreviations they don't understand from the file names of my photos. Correcting spelling mistakes or short(!) additions are of course ok. However, comprehensive image descriptions belong in the image description, that's what it's there for. However, it should not contain an essay on the entire history of the city, country and ruling houses, but a brief and accurate description of the object depicted. In any case, placed at the beginning and easy to find. If you want to write a novel behind it, fine, you can. --Smial 15:14, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
@Smial: Yeah, I would never rename someone else's file unless it is clearly wrong (say, it would be "Heathrow airport.jpg" when it actually shows Frankfurt airport). In this case, a name like "Warsaw_2023_012 Sigismunds Column and Royal Castle Tower.jpg" would be appropriate, but I'd still leave that to the uploader. --Plozessor 03:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Comment @Robert Flogaus-Faust: & @Plozessor: There are several pertinent issues in this discussion:
    • File Naming: Ideally, according to the naming “guidelines” (Commons:File naming), file names should be very specific with time information and without inappropriate terms or any confusing details, all of which could lead to some very long file names indeed (many names of nominated QI files are already ‘long’ even without including the recommended “year or date”). Realistically a balance generally has to be struck with the primary override that “the uploader’s choice should be honoured”. (“Renaming” files to avoid “ambiguity” (2) may not work in practice, especially when loading tens, or possibly hundreds, of files and seeking “harmonization” (4) of those files. “When in doubt, aim for a stable more generic name.”)
    • File Names v Captions v Descriptions: Presumably the recent introduction of “Captions” was not intended to simply repeat a detailed file name, or a relatively brief description, so presumably the caption is where a short description of the image should now be entered (for QI images an “accurate description on the file page”).
    • Descriptions: Certainly in the past there have been criticisms of including historical backgrounds of photos of places, monuments, et al, but also some have expressed praise for directly including such info along with the image, often a brief summary of some of the Wikipedia info with links to other Wikipedia pages (which is generally recommended within the Wikipedia\Wikimedia environment).
    • In summary, to achieve an appropriate balance (max info\min time) that will encourage the greatest number of contributions to Wikimedia Commons it would appear that File Names, Captions, Descriptions, and importantly also Categories, should be considered together in providing the overall level of detail that will in turn encourage further interest and wider use of all images uploaded, particularly QIs. --Scotch Mist 08:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
     Oppose for now. Commons:File naming is not a guideline, but it also contains the following sentence: "The name should not consist primarily of a broad location, such as File:Paris 319.jpg, Ontario hill, or Japan train station, where the location is so large that only someone who knows the area very well can identify the image." My suggestion is that you could keep much of your naming scheme by adding the subject of the image. Even though it would be best if it came first in the file name, I suppose that it would be completely acceptahle after your image number, so that it does not disrupt your file naming scheme. In addition, at least in my opinion, a description should at least clearly say what can be seen on the image. Otherwise it is just not meaningful.--Robert Flogaus-Faust 18:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 Comment @Robert Flogaus-Faust: Understand your opinion but would respectfully suggest some key points have been missed:
  • We have automated sequential file naming on uploads for a reason - this function may be seldom exploited by those uploading files of individual plants and animals but personally I would not have loaded thousands of files of places I have visited without this function. Your suggestion of adding details after the sequential image number will not work for the hundreds of files I intended to nominate for QI without first renaming every file (effectively defeating the whole purpose of using the automated naming function).
  • The objective in now having a separate 'Caption' has not been explained - is it simply to mirror a short 'Description'? Certainly I could 'cut and paste' each Caption into the Description but is this really the most efficient manner of bringing more files into Wikimedia Commons or should in future I simply not waste time on Captions? Or, am I missing something here?
  • The statement that "Commons:File naming is not a guideline" would appear to be incorrect from my reading of this page, and the deficient example referenced does not include a recommended "year or date" (which also apparently is not included in files uploaded by yourself and others and nominated for QI).
As intimated in my 'summary' above, with the purpose of the Commons being to build a media file repository available to all, the more efficient the uploading process the greater the repository that we can all help to build! Please reconsider your opposition to promoting this file (and others) for QI as I believe the file name meets basic requirements and all necessary information is contained on the 'image file page' if one considers the 'Caption' as relevant. If not, then it would seem there is no point in completing 'Captions' and I should modify my existing nominations accordingly but thank you for considering these additional comments! --Scotch Mist 06:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
O.k., understood (mostly). However, I cannot understand that you cannot find the time to have a maximum of five images per day renamed and possibly the captions added to your description fields. Better file names would be very helpful both to improve the visibility of your files in search engines and (for me) to have them moved to the appropriate quality image galleries ("categorization" via Commons:Quality images/Recently promoted). Almost every file with a too broad file name must be right-clicked and opened to understand where it should be moved to. BTW, it also takes some time for me to upload files with the upload wizard because of the lengthy forms that should be filled in. Commons:File naming has been a proposed guideline since 2009, but it is still tagged as a proposed guideline. Apparently, there has not been sufficient consensus yet. --Robert Flogaus-Faust (talk) 07:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose for now. This is about quality, not quantity. Inaccurate file names and rambling image descriptions are common at Scotch Mist. I thought a brief note would be enough to get him to improve this practice. I didn't think it would be that difficult to convince him. QIC is not intended to be a mass-processing operation. Hence the limit of 5 per day. Less is also possible. For QI you can expect more effort in choosing the file name and formulating the image description than any automatic processes. Or you can forego the candidacy.--Milseburg (talk) 12:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 Comment @Milseburg: Sorry, my mistake, I thought QI was primarily about the quality of the image and that while indexing information is of course important, it is secondary and therefore it should not be critical whether that information is contained in the File Name, the Caption, the Description and\or the Categories (each of which, or a combination, could potentially be used to aid in moving images to appropriate QI galleries). If the Caption contains information that you consider must also be contained in the File Name and\or Description, then clearly the Caption serves no purpose in this regard, but before I amend the Descriptions, and possibly the File Names, of already nominated images and hundreds of images I had intended to nominate for QI in the future, can you or @Robert Flogaus-Faust: please explain to me when I should enter information in the Caption and what form that information should take?? (PS I would respectfully suggest that my descriptions are not "rambling" and while it is understood that some background information to provide historical context to places visited may not have interest to many, there are some people who have apparently found this information and associated web links helpful!) --Scotch Mist 14:27, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 Comment Yes, these formalities play a role in a quality image in addition to the technical criteria. In this case, I would suggest the title: "Sigismund's Column and Royal Castle Tower, Warsaw" and the description "Tops of Sigismund's Column and the Royal Castle Tower in Warsaw", possibly linked. You should proceed in the same way for further nominations. In the short file descrirption of structured data it's already done but should also done in the summary. Your current approach does not meet QI standards. If adjusting is too time-consuming, simply nominate fewer images. In fact, I think it's less work to reduce title and description to the essentials. Remember that people interested in the images just want to be informed about the content of the images and do not want to go on a long educational journey. The place for that is somewhere else. No such a big thing. --Milseburg 16:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
✓ Done ✓ Done @Robert Flogaus-Faust: @Milseburg: As outlined in 'File:Łódź_2023_13.jpg' discussion. --Scotch Mist 09:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 Support Thanks. Good quality. Pings don't work here, unfortunately. --Robert Flogaus-Faust 11:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support OK for QI now. --Milseburg 11:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Milseburg 13:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Łódź 2023 41 Palace Fountain Maiden Tears.jpg

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  • Nomination Maiden's Sad Expression - Tears of Fountain Sculpture in Łódź Palace Garden --Scotch Mist 06:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Oppose disturbing artifacts, probably water drops. Sorry. --Moroder 10:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for review although of course there are "water drops" as the statue is in a water fountain (a different scenario from photographing a sculpture in a church), but the most prominent water drop appears like a 'tear' from the sad face of the maiden creating a unique image! --Scotch Mist 22:10, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
✓ Done @Robert Flogaus-Faust: Have appended 'Description' with 'Caption' but now do not know if and when captions should be completed and their relevance, but perhaps that discussion is for another day! --Scotch Mist 15:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 Comment Thanks! I could accept this description. However, there should be also a rename request to something like File:Łódź 2023 41 Tears of Fountain Sculpture in Łódź Palace Garden.jpg or possibly File:Łódź 2023 41 Tears of Fountain Sculpture.jpg, for example. --Robert Flogaus-Faust 16:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
✓ Done ✓ Done @Robert Flogaus-Faust: As outlined in 'File:Łódź_2023_13.jpg' discussion. --Scotch Mist 09:22, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 Comment Thanks. I removed my opposing vote. --Robert Flogaus-Faust 11:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Milseburg 13:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Łódź_2023_13.jpg

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  • Nomination View of Poznański Palace in Łódź --Scotch Mist 05:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Oppose I guess all those wires are disturbing --Moroder 16:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Agree, but there is no way to take a photo from this perspective without the wires and perhaps why we should avoid installing overhead cables where possible! --Scotch Mist 06:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support Wires are there, better to have a picture from a distance with the wires than one of these distorted over-"verticalized" pictures from near the building. Picture is good. --Plozessor 04:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose for the file name and the description. --Robert Flogaus-Faust 18:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
✓ Done @Robert Flogaus-Faust: Have appended 'Description' with 'Caption' but now do not know if and when captions should be completed and their relevance, but perhaps that discussion is for another day! --Scotch Mist 15:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 Comment Thanks! Could you also have the image renamed, please? Or possibly allow me to file a rename request, e.g. to File:Łódź_2023_13_Poznański_Palace.jpg? --Robert Flogaus-Faust 17:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 Comment @Robert Flogaus-Faust: Appreciate you taking the time to review this and other nominations and to present your views on file naming and descriptions, but it seems that while I have changed the description here in line with your wishes, I am still effectively being compelled (as promotion may be declined) to change a naming regime that has seemingly served me well for more than 500 QI promotions by a large number of different QI contributors. I respectfully think it would be more appropriate, for now, to remove your opposition (O) to this promotion (and others where the description has been changed in line with your views) until either proposed naming guidelines (which "are not intended to serve as standalone justification for renaming files") have been agreed or the use of Captions has been fully explained so we can proceed accordingly. [Have not ruled out future naming of files along the lines you have suggested, but while this may mean less work for you it will make the task of uploading large numbers of files more onerous, perhaps not only for me but for many others.] Thank you for considering this request! --Scotch Mist 10:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 Comment Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, there is no reason to assume that there will be a file naming guideline any time soon, even though there is a proposal on Commons:Village pump/Proposals. However, Commons:File renaming is sufficiently clear and it has the advantage to be a very brief accepted guideline. Does it matter much for the quality of a name whether the city in the file name is Paris or a smaller city elsewhere? I don't think so. I could just submit my rename requests and strike my votes, but it appears that you might not like that at all. BTW, it is usual that the old name redirects to the new one after renaming. In addition, I suppose that your files would be sorted the same way after renaming them according to my suggestions. So while I have no intention to oppose all of your images because of their file names, I won't strike my votes either because I cannot understand why your file naming scheme must remain exactly as it is even if this means that your file names are too broad. --Robert Flogaus-Faust 15:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
✓ Done ✓ Done @Robert Flogaus-Faust: While it is disappointing that I have yet to receive (either from yourself or Milseburg) an explanation on the use of Captions (which given this discussion are perhaps 'redundant') and after having appended my description you still oppose this QI nomination, I have renamed the image file. You will note that I have not used the name you suggested because of the 77 files I uploaded for Łódź, 66 files relate to the Palace and 27 of those were nominated as QIs. So, in order to differentiate these files without relying on the 'auto-numbering feature (which, following your advice, is now also to a large extent effectively redundant) new accurate but optimally brief file names must be constructed (which in future may considerably slow the uploading process and in effect reduce the number of images uploaded). Trust you will now review your opposition to the QI promotion of this image, and the other two images under 'Consensual review', and perhaps also review the three images currently awaiting review (May 24) for which I have also requested file renaming. Thank you. --Scotch Mist 08:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Milseburg 13:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Yoonit,_Cyclingworld_Europe_2024,_Meerbusch_(P1170867).jpg

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  • Nomination Yoonit transport bike at Cyclingworld Europe 2024 in Meerbusch --MB-one 21:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Background is disturbing a bit but overall quality is good for me. --Красный 03:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Disturbing background. Please discuss. --Sebring12Hrs 14:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Per Sebring12Hrs. --Plozessor 06:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Cluttered background with beheaded people -- Basile Morin 04:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I'm sorry but I have to agree with the opposers here. Background is too disturbing. Nacaru 23:37, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined   --Milseburg 13:43, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Sunrise_from_the_Vanjangi_hill_top.jpg

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  • Nomination Sunrise from the summit of Vanjangi hills --IM3847 07:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. --Skander zarrad 07:31, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree. CAs an the ring-shaped light reflex on the right spoils it. --Milseburg 15:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose There is a ring shaped glare on both sides. I don't know how to eliminate the rays artifact due to the shutter around the sun--Moroder 11:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Comment Hi @Milseburg: , @Moroder: Can we consider [this image] --IM3847 05:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Looks better, but I think there's an additional problem with the composition. The person with the bottles is unfavorable and dominant in the image with his legs cut off. Also slight tilted. --Milseburg 09:53, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
✓ Done with perceptive correction. --IM3847 20:34, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support To me it looks ok as it is (I would consider the halo rather an effect than a defect), but the retouched version seems ok also. Could consider slight perspective correction though, those distorted people in the foreground are looking a bit awkward. --Plozessor 06:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Support As per Plozessor --Scotch Mist 11:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Circular line / halo at the lower corners and yellowish cast as if the white balance was wrong, or the colors oversaturated -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:10, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  • A new version has been uploaded, however the CAs are still visible, and the colors wrong. See for example the jacket of the lady at the left making a selfie, it is partly pink and partly grey. Very odd. Due to the contrejour, it is likely that the sliders have been pushed too far in post-treatment. Unfortunately with moving subjects, you can't proceed HDR. There are also heavy distorsions on both sides, and a distracting object looking like a plastic bag at the left -- Basile Morin 03:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi@Basile Morin: , I have tried my last shot from RAW file, any comments on the newer version. --IM3847 03:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Per others, and CAs. --Sebring12Hrs 18:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined   --Milseburg 13:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)