Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Presidential Palace in Vientiane

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Files in Category:Presidential Palace in Vientiane

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Per [1], the current presidential palace started construction in 1973, authored by local Laotian architect Khamphoung Phonekeo. There is no acceptable freedom of panorama in Laos. Commercial license authorization from Khamphoung Phonekeo is required (or his heirs if he is already dead today). None of the nominated photos show the palace in an "incidental" manner.

The most heavily used photos can be transferred locally to English and German Wikipedias (that allow unfree buildings of no-FOP countries in their fullest resolutions), pending a change in Laotian copyright law. Unsure about Lao Wikipedia though.

JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 02:55, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • What do you mean by pending a change in Laotian copyright law? Is there a chance that those pictures would be ok to keep in Commons anytime soon? ---- Jakubhal 12:44, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jakubhal: I do not mean that there is a chance for a change in the Laotian copyright law sooner or later. Rather I meant that as long as the law is as it is – remaining unchanged – the photos will remain redacted ("deletion" only hides files from non-admins) and only local wikis that accept full-resolution photos of unfree architectural works can host these photos. Right now, I do not see any indication that Laos will be more friendly to Wikimedia community in terms of allowing copyrighted works and art to be hosted here under commercial licenses. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 14:24, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @JWilz12345 local wikis that accept full-resolution photos of unfree … works I expect there are no such wikis, for any type of work. Brianjd (talk) 11:51, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Brianjd: there is. English Wikipedia only respects U.S. law, even if it is the No. 1 wiki being accessed by us here (very few use Tagalog Wikipedia here). See w:en:Template:FoP-USonly. Enwiki has accepted photos of unfree architectural works of countries with no suitable FOP — in their fullest resolutions — by claiming that lex loci protectionis is applicable to them. German Wikipedia is another one; they have a template that states a certain photo (of an unfree building or sculpture of no FOP country) is allowed on German Wikipedia due to German lex loci protectionis, so seemingly implying that German Wikipedia only follows German copyright law (I cannot recall that template however). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 12:11, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @JWilz12345: Yes, I have seen so many references to fair use that I forgot this was something different. I didn’t read this page properly. Anyway, I don’t think these lex loci protectionis claims are well-known, and I was only vaguely aware of them prior to your explanation, so it’s good that you explained them here. Brianjd (talk) 12:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 09:53, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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