Commons:Deletion requests/F. Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald family passport photos

• File:F. Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald Passport Book Pages 4 and 5 Retouched.jpg
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US Passport photos are rarely taken by federal employees, and there is no indication that federal employees took these photos. Most likely they were taken using a photo booth by the Fitzgeralds. Thus, we can't show that the photos are "a work prepared by an officer or employee of the United States Government as part of that person’s official duties" for purposes of copyright law. It's not clear when these were first published, but it was probably in a biography published decades later, so the photos are unlikely to have fallen into the public domain for lack of notice/renewal, either. It'd be cool to find a reason to keep these, but right now I don't see it. Blz 2049 (talk) 21:11, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

•  Keep Here we are talking about three distinct copyrights, but Commons only lets you choose one. 1) We have a government document and 2) we have an image supplied by the applicant, and 3) the image/scan of the document which every first time uploader assumes the questions are referring to. The document is indeed PD-USGov. If the image was taken in 1924, the date of the passport, I would say that for copyright purposes a discernible copy has been distributed to someone other than the photographer. When you apply for a passport you submit two copies, one gets attached to your application, and one gets attached to the passport that they send back to you. Publication, for copyright purposes, is the distribution of a discernible copy, not just appearing in a book or magazine. For instance the bulk of our celebrity photos are copies sent to news outlets in the hope they would put the images in their magazines and newspapers, but may never have appeared. They too are published, because copies were distributed. Some photographs remain unpublished, they are never distributed, or ever had a positive print made from the negative, like the bulk of the Bain Collection and the bulk of the Getty Archives. --RAN (talk) 04:12, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Per RAN. If one wishes to renominate this file with another policy-based rationale, they are able to do so. I will defer to other administrators to review it. Happy holidays. --Missvain (talk) 17:14, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]