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Welcome[]

Hi there, I'm Xilinoc, an administrator and member of the Policy and Standards Committee here on Bleach Wiki. Feel free to ask me anything about anything, be polite, and remember to sign your posts with four ~ so I can properly respond to you.--Xilinoc (talk) 04:37, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Regarding order for large names[]

I'm gonna preface this by saying that I know official translations and Japanese fansites are as prone to errors as we are. I'm going to ask about characters with more than two Japanese names. Such characters with four names are Shunsui Kyōraku and Marechiyo Ōmaeda, characters with three names are Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto, Chōjirō Sasakibe, and Yūshirō Shihōin; there are also two Karakura High students with three names, and both keep the 2-3-1 order with name 2 being non-Japanese for both. With that out of the way...

I've noticed that on the wiki, the Western order for characters with four names is 4-3-2-1 (e.g. 京楽(1) 次郎(2) 総蔵佐(3) 春水(4) Westernizes to Shunsui(4) Sakuranosuke(3) Jiro(2) Kyoraku(1)). But for characters with three names, the order is 2-3-1 instead of 3-2-1. I can see the reasoning for the three-name order, since name 2 is what other characters treat as the forename in that case, but why not use 4-2-3-1 for the four-names like the official manga and anime subs do? Or rather, what was it that made people settle on 4-3-2-1 over 4-2-3-1?

On that note, for Kyoraku, is there actually an unwritten "no" in 京楽 次郎 as written on the page's romanized reading, or is it a mistake that got overlooked like Sakuranosuke? I'm asking because on multiple Japanese fan-maintained sites, the reading for 京楽 次郎 総蔵佐 春水 does not have a "no" anywhere. FWIW, the "no" was added during the days when the page had Souzousa instead of Sakuranosuke (this revision).

One last thing, I'd like to apologize for not getting permission before moving Gengorō Ōunabara. I moved it because this pagename is more accurate to the furigana (link can be found in that page's history), but wasn't aware of the moving policy. RevvedUp (talk) 05:14, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Image request - 397[]

Hey Xil, I was thinking of making a proper page for the Torrent of the Soul King's Power ability (even though that name is a bit of a mouthful, but whatever). But I realized I'm actually missing a proper image of the "cyclops babies" to add to it. So could you perhaps upload an image of episode 397 of Hisagi grabbing one of those things as it's biting at him? It's probably the best image of an individual one we'll ever get. Thanks! Timjer (talk) 19:08, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

So, what do you think of the page? I was divided on making it a "Quincy technique" or a "Transcendent technique" page, but I figured that since it's something Yhwach could only do after absorbing the SK and we almost never use that other template, I figured to make it a "Transcendent technique". Though I'm not opposed to changing it to a "Quincy technique" page if others prefer it. Timjer (talk) 17:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Qualkreis[]

Hey Xil, very minor thing, but would you agree that Qualkreis should be Qual Kreis given the kana separator used in the subs. The pages that would need changing I identified are:

If I got your ok I could do the changes, except on the image gallery which needs unlocking first. Karama20 (talk) 10:25, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Aight only pages left to change that are locked are Qualkreis' Image Gallery and Yhwach's page! Thx in advance. Karama20 (talk) 18:06, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Last followup. U had a bit of a typo haha. Should be Qual Kreis, not Qualk Reis. Karama20 (talk) 18:32, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Anti-me rant on social section[]

Hey, I honestly don't want to bother the rest of the staff with it, but when random users start posting "anti-Timjer rants" on the social section as if I am solely the rotten apple on this site, I'm honestly not sure what to think anymore. Am I really such a ***** when dealing with people there just because I try to enforce this place's rules and keep things from escalating every single time? Because I lock down posts that are repeated constantly and keep getting less and less readable? Anyway, this user acts like I'm the biggest problem with this community, so if you guys would prefer I keep my distance from the social section, just say so, alright? Timjer (talk) 15:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

P.S.: I'm also not going to respond to that post right now. Not because I don't want to, I do have some things to say to that user, but because I feel that if I am going to reply it'll only escalate stuff. Timjer (talk) 16:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Damn, you certainly didn't pull any punches with that one, eh? I appreciate it though, really. And don't worry, I'm not going to leave this place beause of the occassional troll that decides to come above ground regardless. I'm not going to let those lifeless jerks ruin the enjoyment I do get from contributing to a fandom I like. I just meant that I'm aware that I'm not the most socially skilled person alive, so if I actually did do something to offend people without realizing it, I would have preferred to hear it from a third party. But since I'm cleared of all charges here, I see no reason to back down at all. Anyway, once again thanks for sticking up for me. Timjer (talk) 18:22, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Images request - 401[]

Yep, it's that time of week again. I'll keep it simple, first a close up of Katen's face at 22:13 (potential profile image), secondly Katen trying to stab Shunsui's eye at 22:06 (we could use some extra images of them together, and it shows their relationship well, I think), IF its not included in the next episode - 0:24, as Ashisogi Jizo is about to explode, and one of Shunsui's afterimages at 10:16. Thanks. Timjer (talk) 12:49, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. And it was actually the second Kageokuri image I was initially looking for, but both works better. As for Katen, I do hope the next episode will have a better profile image as well, but just in case it doesn't I at least wanted to have the options, you know? Timjer (talk) 18:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism[]

Greetings, i just wanted to inform you, that the user GibMemes4 

Is vandalising the wiki.

Gearbram (talk) 14:34, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Episode and music[]

First of all, just like how you geeked out over Uryu vs Renji, I'm going to geek out to the end of Shunsui vs Lille, if you don't mind. Shiro Sagisu didn't just cook with that final OST (when Trompete is charged), he made us a whole ten-course gourmet meal with it. Oh, and speaking of music, I think you might find this interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dZATocDfNU official previews for cour 2 OSTs, so that might make listing the episode songs a bit easier. Timjer (talk) 19:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Trompete Trivia[]

TBH, I was debating myself wether or not it counts as Junk Trivia or not. But in the end I figured the parallels (such as Jilliel meaning "Judgement of God" and the battles around Warhwelt being for the end of the world(s)) were too much to be unintentional. But I'll refer to your, well, judgment on this. Timjer (talk) 17:38, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

I reworded it as you suggested. Aside from the fact that it deserves mention that Kubo seems to draw a decent amount of inspiration from biblical stories and such for the Quincy and Yhwach, it also helps avoid confusion amongst some fans, who might think that Lille's Trompete might just be Kubo being random and nonsensical, as detractors often claim he is. Timjer (talk) 18:38, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Junk Trivia[]

Hey Xil. Since the "Junk Trivia" rule has cropped up a few times now, I was wondering... Would it be worth amending that rule somewhat to allow maybe sth. like a "Conjecture/Digression" section below (or as part of) Trivia sections, for likely background info/possible inspiration/intertextual references and stuff?

It might be somewhat annoying in terms of determining what is/isn't suitable info, but if we keep it to the most obvious/likely references (e.g. Aizen/the Hogyōku being an allusion to Aizen Myō'ō and the Wish-Granting Cintamani, etc.)? Similar to say, the HxH Wiki or Narutopedia. If we properly distinguish this section from the rest of the page and lead into it with a phrase like "The following is conjecture and does not constitute confirmed ..." (and still keep the language as non-suppositional as possible) maybe that could work? Unless it's too much of a hassle.

In my mind, it might be worth considering insofar as that kind of digression/info is more suitable than in-universe speculation (like "This character might be capable of .../related to...")... And a viewer of the page can then make up their own mind regarding how likely that kinda info is to apply as background inspo... Even if stuff like Gerard Hoffnung cannot be verified without word from Kubo, it might still be worth adding it, even if just as an interesting coincidence... Karama20 (talk) 15:52, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Would you prefer keeping it as reg. Trivia points, or as a somewhat separate section, called "Digression" or something (dunno if it's maybe unnecessary)? Karama20 (talk) 15:42, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Aight, thanks for your help^^! Karama20 (talk) 15:46, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Zanpakuto types discussion[]

Hey Xil, I and Karama were having a bit of a discussion on the Zanpakuto talk page about reclassifying some of them. I personally think that concerning Shinso and Minazuki some good points were raised, so if you don't mind I'm going to make the change, as I prefer to have an admin approve of something like that. Timjer (talk) 15:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Yhwach page edit[]

Can you link Soul Distribution Power to Yhwach's page? In history and powers. Also, I would like to add that he does not have the innate ability to manipulate Reishi in powers. Lightning Laxus (talk) 20:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for unlocking Yhwach's page. Can you do the same for the Soul King? Frankly speaking, I don't see why it was locked in the first place. The only edit besides Timjer's on that day was this, and it's not a malicious edit. In fact, Yhwach does say humans in the episode. Lightning Laxus (talk) 13:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
I've just unlocked it, as it seems like most vandals are gone for now. Timjer (talk) 13:03, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Well, thank you for that, but I don't see how it was vandalized? It looks like it was just randomly locked. Only you and RevvedUp were even editing on that day. Lightning Laxus (talk) 13:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
I honestly don't know why it was locked again back then, maybe preventively? Regardless, it's unlocked now. Timjer (talk) 13:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Shadows Gone[]

Can you unlock the page and fix the linking error in the lede? Lightning Laxus (talk) 15:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Aschtonig[]

I implemented the change from Aschetonig to Aschtonig as per the Talk page discussion. Can you do me a favor and make the change for me on Gerard's Image Gallery page which is locked? Also, I already renamed the image [1] (though the file link still needs changing on Gerard's gallery page), but the image [2] still needs to be renamed. Since it's used on a couple locked pages and the rename function sometimes doesn't load for me well, could you rename that one for me too. Thanks in advance! (Also glad you enjoyed the last 2 episodes!) Karama20 (talk) 17:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of updating the Image Gallery. Timjer (talk) 17:21, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Re: C3 finale[]

No need to apologize, I figured the holiday season was responsible to some degree and as I've said before RL stuff comes before this place. That being said, you might have noticed that some power scalers are going crazy right now, and it's a bit more than I could handle by myself.

Agreed about C3's finale. Absolutely awesome and glad the Visoreds are getting at least some chance to shine. Also great to see Ichigo use what appears to be Zangetsu's Chain ability when fighting Uryu. Our boy is evolving. The only thing I do dislike is that we now have to wait yet another year or so for the resolution, especially since apparently cour 4 will have the most new content of all. Timjer (talk) 10:06, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Shunsui[]

Hello Xilinoc, I just wanted to bring up the fact that Shunsui is stated to be a kido expert on this wiki but Ukitake is a master. How is Shunsui only an expert when hado 78 is a high level spell and he used it w/o incantation. Ukitake hasn’t shown using any spell as high as that so I was wondering could this perhaps be a subject thats looked into.(DisaterDad (talk) 09:49, 1 January 2025 (UTC))

Images Removed[]

Sorry, but I added two screenshots to Momo Hinamori's page, but they were both removed. I don't understand why.

Original SS[]

Sorry to add to your workload, but when cour 3 ended, I attempted to move the names and images of the original SS members to their new/official spellings, but several pages are just locked. In other words, I half-assed some of it and gave up midway. For example, you can see broken image links in the Wandenreich image gallery and pages like the Quincy Blood War use the old spellings. Could you fix all of that? Lightning Laxus (talk) 16:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Don't forget these

Senjumaru[]

Tite Kubo has stated that Senjumaru Shutara was made a member of the Royal Guard due to creating the shihakushō. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the Royal Guard template? Stay safe and healthy, and have fun! Burrito shipoop 11:50, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Re: New OST[]

Hey, just going to copy-paste what I replied on Pavelartf's page:

Actually Xil the official OST for Cour 2 has already been released... In physical media in Japan. While I'm personally still waiting as well for it to come on Spotify and/or Youtube (I'm hoping it'll be just a few more weeks at most), I've seen some YTers post, ehm, fragments on YT with the official titles (for example the Auswahlen theme turns out to be "He'll die for our sins"). It's what I used for a few of my edits already. I could send you a link, purely for editing purposes, but since it's not the official release I'm not entirely sure it's appropriate... Timjer (talk) 10:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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