Talk:Stadion Miejski (Kielce)

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Stadion Miejski (Kielce) → Kielce Municipal Stadium – This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 10:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Please stop again and again use WP:UE as the main reason reason for move. It has been explained to you in many different discussions that we follow what is the common name in English-language sources. If the name does not appear in English-language sources, we prefer the native name. For this specific stadium, Exbud Arena, Stadion Miejski and Kielce City Stadium are much more common names than the name you prefer. It is not enough to just submit a proposal, but it is also necessary to analyze the use of names in practice. Exbud Arena is currently the most common name, so if I move, I vote for this name. FromCzech (talk) 10:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment: With all due respect to your view, however, the discussions regarding Kazimierz Górski Stadium and Wrocław Stadium have made another direction more likely (for clarification: FromCzech is the person who undertook the retraction of some of the edits concerning the stadiums). Paradygmaty (talk) 10:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC) Since FromCzech keeps referring to their Kielce Municipal Stadium argument, I’ll summarize why English names should be retained. The guidelines favor reason and common sense—many stadiums use “Municipal” in English, making this a natural and consistent choice. Mixing Polish and English names creates inconsistency, and since some articles were already changed to English, maintaining uniformity is essential. This discussion should clarify the matter so we can apply WP:UE consistently rather than selectively reverting changes. Paradygmaty (talk) 15:00, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]