Talk:Maharashtra

Maharashtra is subdivided in six division articles, which in turn are subdivided in 35 district articles. Most of the district articles are empty or have only one city. This structure makes the state quite messy. Therefore, I suggest that we change the structure as follows:

1. Eliminate the district level implying that we only have one level of subdivision of the state, namely the Division level
2. Split out Mumbai Metropolitan Region (covering Greater Mumbai, Mumbai Suburban, Thane and Raigad Districts) from Konkan Division

This means that at least Mumbai Metropolitan Region will have more than nine cities. But I think this is a small price to pay for eliminating all those empty district articles. Thoughts on this is most welcome. (WT-en) ClausHansen 18:18, 4 January 2010 (EST)

I wonder if using the administrative divisions may be too unstable for Wikivoyage. It seems that 6 administrative divisions are about to become 7, with the creation of the Nanded Division on 5 January 2009, according to Wikipedia:Maharashtra#Divisions_and_regions. That article and the Wikipedia article about Regions and Divisions of Maharashtra gives just 5 geographical regions, based on history and politics:

• Vidarbha Region - (Nagpur and Amravati divisions) - (Old Berar Region)
• Marathwada Region - (Aurangabad Division, and the yet to be constituted Nanded Division)
• Khandesh and Northern Maharashtra Region - (Nashik Division)
• Desh or Western Maharashtra Region - (Pune division) and
• Konkan Region - (Konkan Division, including Mumbai City and Mumbai Suburban Area)

Also, rather than having separate articles about Mumbai City and Mumbai Suburban Area, why not ignore the administrative boundaries and consider all of Mumbai to be a single huge city that is split into Wikivoyage district articles for each sector of the city that is of interest.

After all, the Project:Geographical hierarchy suggests that we should choose a geographic breakdown in preference to a political one. Frequently, the geographic and political breakdown options are interweaved, as it is logical to use natural geographic features as the borders between separate administrative areas, but in this case I think there is more stability with a geographical rather than a political subdivision. The other advantage is that the geographical names are mostly different from the divisions, so it is unambiguous what the breakdown is. - (WT-en) Huttite 18:59, 8 January 2010 (EST)

That is fine with me. As I see it, the only change you suggest is to merge Amravati into Vidarbha. I do not understand your suggestion on Mumbai, it is already considered a huge city split into Wikivoyage district articles, please clarify which change you suggest on Mumbai. (WT-en) ClausHansen 03:28, 9 January 2010 (EST)

There are now 12 cities listed - too many for the state level. It's probably a cinch to eliminate the red-linked one, but which other ones should be eliminated? Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:59, 6 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

None is red-linked now, but there are still 12 listed. Before I make a status chart of the cities listed in this guide, we should decide which 3 of the currently-listed cities should be deleted from this list.

Here's the current list:

• Mumbai — the capital of Maharashtra, also the commercial capital of India
• Ahmednagar — 500+ years history, with traces of Nizamshahi, Shahjahan and Peshwas
• Amravati — educational hub in east Maharashtra, the home of Goddess Ambadevi
• Aurangabad — the city of 52 doors, famous for its Mughal monuments
• Jalgaon — the City of Bananas and famous for the gold market
• Kolhapur — the home of Goddess Ambabai
• Nagpur — the city of oranges, at the geographical center of India
• Nanded — holy city of the Sikh Religion
• Nashik — the city of pilgrimage - the Grape city
• Pune — cultural capital of Maharashtra, called as the Oxford of the East with old town, museum and excellent restaurants
• Thane — the city of lakes
• Wardha — Gandhi City

I'd say that other than Mumbai, Nagpur and Pune are big cities that obviously need to be included. I'm not sure which of the rest are most important, though. Aurangabad sounds like a great destination, and Ahmednagar also sounds interesting. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:45, 26 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

So? Anyone have any opinions? Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

I have no idea, but I might suggest that if no one speaks up, the section could be trimmed back to the Jan. 18, 2013 version, using the cities we originally had before the list exceeded nine. Then if someone comes along and disagrees or tries to add more, the discussion can be had at that time. (And the same logic can be applied to Kerala too, where you've brought up a similar issue.) Texugo (talk) 12:09, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, that's a viable option. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hmmm...Actually, it's not so viable, as the 9th city then was Ichalkaranji, which is a red link. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:41, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

I suppose you've noticed, but Ichalkaranji was the 10th city on this list, which I was ignoring since it is red. Texugo (talk) 13:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

I'm going to sleep soon so I won't be as detailed as on Kerala. All I'll say is that Mumbai, Pune and Nagpur are the big 3 followed by Nashik, Aurangabad and Thane. I don't have an opinion on the others though I have heard of Kolhapur. Gizza ^(t)(c) 12:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. So if we subtract Kolhapur, we're down to 11. 2 more to go. Kolhapur was actually in the Jan. 18, 2013 version, which I'm now seeing is 9 cities without the red-linked city. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:00, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Not including Ichalkaranji, this was the Jan. 18, 2013 list:

• Mumbai — the capital of Maharashtra, also the commercial capital of India
• Ahmednagar — 500+ years history, with traces of Nizamshahi, Shahjahan and Peshwas
• Amravati — Educational hub in east Maharashtra, the home of Goddess Ambadevi
• Aurangabad — the city of 52 doors, famous for its Mughal monuments
• Kolhapur — the home of Goddess Ambabai
• Nanded — holy city of Sikh Religion
• Nagpur — the city of Oranges, at the geographical center of India
• Nashik — the city of pilgrimage - The Grape city
• Pune — cultural capital of Maharashtra, called as the Oxford of the East with old town, museum and excellent restaurants

Thane wasn't in the list. The other cities that weren't included were Jalgaon and Wardha. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:00, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

The above 9 look good. There's no need to include Thane. It's just a suburb of Mumbai Ravikiran (talk) 17:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, Ravikiran. User:DaGizza, would you like to make an argument for Thane vs. any of these cities? Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:08, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

OK, Thane is more or less a suburb of Mumbai. The above 9 look good. Gizza ^(t)(c) 01:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Done. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:34, 21 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

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