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Latest comment: 11 years ago by Kalki in topic Unsourced

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Evil page.

I just moved the Pascal quote from Unsourced to Sourced, adding the source.

As I note, the quote is misleading. Minor point, the translator suppressed one pensée, so the French (Brunschvicg) number is 895, not 894.(794 in Pléiade.) Important point, the last words are NOT "religious conviction" but simply "conscience": "Jamais on ne fait le mal si pleinement et si gaiement que quand on le fait par conscience."

Hence, the French original gets 12 Google hits, but the Trotter improvement 2690.

—This unsigned comment is by PhR (talk • contribs) .

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  • Whenever any Evil is too fierce, we use to be frightened by its grotesque and obscure shape; it’s hard to know what to expect from it. It’s the chaos. A chaos, that happens always when there’s no how to anticipate the next step, or how to know what’s coming on the following day… But that dull universe belongs to the Evil only, it is overtaken by its darkness and it must, even against its wish, calculate the right millimeters for where it’s going to walk on, for not to lose the ground, so that it can control the actions, own and another’s. And the Evil hunts for that gloomy control more and more until it’s deeply dragged in it; and the deeper it goes… it goes even more lost. Thus, there’s no how to find any direction, right or wrong, and all that energy spent on that territory turns to nothing and runs out of itself. It burns out like a flame whose glow seemed to be so intense and scary before, burning the hands of all those ones who tried to protect themselves from the Evil… I don’t want to make me safe at this cost, I don’t want to be hurt by a flame that can’t burn forever or reach me out. I feel it right here, in my chest, that there’s more in me, in you, in all of us, much more than there are in millions, billions of people who may have joined this Evil, in the believing that it is the flame that will guide their dreams and ambitions. I’m not alone here, I don’t feel any hate or doubt inside, and here and now I claim myself whole by the Love that I’ve watched to grow inside of me for years: Love for whom I am, for the lives of you all; and for the whole Universe that’s beyond everything and that’s wider and much more fair than any paper or any voice might speak up one day, at any time.
  • All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
  • But goodness alone is never enough. A hard cold wisdom is required, too, for goodness to accomplish good. Goodness without wisdom invariably accomplishes evil.
  • The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil.
  • I feel pity for those fools that prayed for the annihilation of evil, Their efforts are worthy but nonetheless still futile.
  • If your heart acquires strength, you will be able to remove blemishes from others without thinking evil of them.
  • It is told that Buddha, going out to look on life, was greatly daunted by death. "They all eat one another!" he cried, and called it evil. This process I examined, changed the verb, said, "They all feed one another," and called it good.
  • The smallest grains of evil are our rude, careless touches on the sensitive, subtly organized soul of a child who, we think, doesn't understand anything, and therefore, will tolerate everything.
  • The moral sense reappears today with the same morning newness that has been from of old the fountain of beauty and strength. You say there is no religion now. 'Tis like saying in rainy weather, There is no sun, when at that moment we are witnessing one of its superlative effects.
  • No man chooses evil because it is evil; he only mistakes it for happiness, the good he seeks.
  • Nothing worse than a monster who thinks he's right with God.
  • The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.
  • Since boredom advances and boredom is the root of all evil, no wonder, then, that the world goes backwards, that evil spreads. This can be traced back to the very beginning of the world. The gods were bored; therefore they created human beings.
  • They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
  • To do evil that good may come of it is for bunglers in politics as well as morals.
  • Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies within the heart of mankind.
    • Yoshiharu Gotanda, Edward D. Morrison, Tales of Phantasia
  • We ought always to deal justly, not only with those who are just to us, but likewise to those who endeavor to injure us; and this, for fear lest by rendering them evil for evil, we should fall into the same vice.
  • When good people in any country cease their vigilance and struggle, then evil men prevail.
  • The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
  • Yield not to evils, but attack all the more boldly.
  • Kira: "That's what's so frightening. People can find a way to justify any action, no matter how evil"
  • Ziyal:"You think my father's evil?"
  • Kira: "I think... You can't judge people by what they think or say, only by what they do"
    • Star Trek: Deep Space Nine By inferno's light
  • The dark side retains its power by imposing a blackout.
  • His belief that evil was an illusion did not save him.
    • Vergere, on the death of Magister Hal, "Star Wars"
  • Now you see, Lone Starr, that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
  • Without followers, evil cannot spread.
    • Spock, "And The Children Shall Lead", Star Trek
  • The Lord God commanded the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”
  • For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
  • Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—
    • [Genesis 2:16-18; 3:5,22 NASB]
  • As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good in order to bring about this present result, to preserve many people alive.
    • [Genesis 50:20 NASB]
  • So it came about whenever the evil spirit from God came to Saul, David would take the harp and play it with his hand; and Saul would be refreshed and be well, and the evil spirit would depart from him.
    • [1 Samuel 16:23 NASB]
  • He did evil because he did not set his heart to seek the Lord.
    • [2 Chronicles 12:14 NASB]
  • “Lo, God will not reject a man of integrity,

Nor will He support the evildoers.

    • [Job 8:20 NASB]
  • “Though evil is sweet in his mouth

And he hides it under his tongue, Though he desires it and will not let it go, But holds it in his mouth, Yet his food in his stomach is changed To the venom of cobras within him. “He swallows riches, But will vomit them up; God will expel them from his belly. “He sucks the poison of cobras; The viper’s tongue slays him. “He does not look at the streams, The rivers flowing with honey and curds. “He returns what he has attained And cannot swallow it; As to the riches of his trading, He cannot even enjoy them. “For he has oppressed and forsaken the poor; He has seized a house which he has not built.

    • [Job 20:12-19 NASB]
  • “And to man He said, ‘Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom;

And to depart from evil is understanding.’”

    • [Job 28:28 NASB]
  • The face of the Lord is against evildoers,

To cut off the memory of them from the earth.

    • [Psalm 34:16 NASB]
  • Cease from anger and forsake wrath;

Do not fret; it leads only to evildoing.

    • [Psalm 37:8 NASB]
  • Depart from evil and do good,

So you will abide forever.

    • Psalm 37:27 NASB]
  • A worthless person, a wicked man,

Is the one who walks with a perverse mouth, Who winks with his eyes, who signals with his feet, Who points with his fingers; Who with perversity in his heart continually devises evil, Who spreads strife. Therefore his calamity will come suddenly; Instantly he will be broken and there will be no healing.

    • [Proverbs 6:12-15 NASB]
  • He who is steadfast in righteousness will attain to life,

And he who pursues evil will bring about his own death.

    • [Proverbs 11:19 NASB]
  • He who diligently seeks good seeks favor,

But he who seeks evil, evil will come to him.

    • [Proverbs 11:27 NASB]
  • An evil man is ensnared by the transgression of his lips,

But the righteous will escape from trouble.

    • [Proverbs 12:13 NASB]
  • Deceit is in the heart of those who devise evil, But counselors of peace have joy.
    • [Proverbs 12:20 NASB]
  • A quick-tempered man acts foolishly,

And a man of evil devices is hated.

    • [Proverbs 14:17 NASB]
  • The evil will bow down before the good,

And the wicked at the gates of the righteous.

    • [Proverbs 14:19 NASB]
  • The eyes of the Lord are in every place,

Watching the evil and the good.

    • [Proverbs 15:3 NASB]
  • A worthless man digs up evil,

While his words are like scorching fire.

    • [Proverbs 16:27 NASB]
  • He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;

He who compresses his lips brings evil to pass.

    • [Proverbs 16:30 NASB]
    • A rebellious man seeks only evil,

So a cruel messenger will be sent against him.

    • {Proverbs 17:11 NASB]
  • He who returns evil for good,

Evil will not depart from his house.

    • [Proverbs 17:13 NASB]
  • He who has a crooked mind finds no good,

And he who is perverted in his language falls into evil.

    • [Proverbs 17:20 NASB]
  • One who plans to do evil,

Men will call a schemer.

    • [Proverbs 24:8 NASB]
  • Do not fret because of evildoers

Or be envious of the wicked; For there will be no future for the evil man; The lamp of the wicked will be put out.

    • [Proverbs 24:19,20 NASB
  • Evil men do not understand justice,

But those who seek the Lord understand all things.

    • [Proverbs 28:5 NASB]
  • He who leads the upright astray in an evil way

Will himself fall into his own pit, But the blameless will inherit good.

    • [Proverbs 28:10 NASB]
  • A man with an evil eye hastens after wealth

And does not know that want will come upon him

    • [Proverbs 28:22 NASB]
  • By transgression an evil man is ensnared,

But the righteous sings and rejoices.

    • [Proverbs 29:6 NASB]
  • There is a grievous evil which I have seen under the sun: riches being hoarded by their owner to his hurt.
    • [Ecclesiastes 5:13 NASB]
  • Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;

Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!

    • [Isaiah 5:20,21 NASB]
  • But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God,

And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear. For your hands are defiled with blood And your fingers with iniquity; Your lips have spoken falsehood, Your tongue mutters wickedness. No one sues righteously and no one pleads honestly. They trust in confusion and speak lies; They conceive mischief and bring forth iniquity. They hatch adders’ eggs and weave the spider’s web; He who eats of their eggs dies, And from that which is crushed a snake breaks forth. Their webs will not become clothing, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And an act of violence is in their hands. Their feet run to evil, And they hasten to shed innocent blood; Their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity, Devastation and destruction are in their highways. They do not know the way of peace, And there is no justice in their tracks; They have made their paths crooked, Whoever treads on them does not know peace.

    • [Isaiah 59:2-8 NASB]
  • You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good?

For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart. The good man brings out of his good treasure what is good; and the evil man brings out of his evil treasure what is evil.

    • [Matthew 12:34,35 NASB]
  • But the things that proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and those defile the man.

For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders. These are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man.”

    • [Matthew 18:15-18 NASB]
  • This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
    • [John 3:19,20 NASB]
  • Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
    • [Romans 12:21 NASB]
  • For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
    • [1 Timothy 6:10 NASB]
  • But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
    • [2 Timothy 3:13 NASB]
  • But no one can tame the tongue; it is a restless evil and full of deadly poison.
    • James 3:8 NASB]
  • For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing.
    • James 3:16 NASB
  • Beloved, do not imitate what is evil, but what is good. The one who does good is of God; the one who does evil has not seen God.
    • 3 John 1:11 NASB]
  • I don't do work that I do not want to do" - Alfredo Balgua

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Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

A quote I removed with an explanation of "lame quote from a lame work" has been reinserted without stating the case for it,[1] so I have removed it again. I will elaborate on the reason for removal:

First, it should be noted that the quote already appears in the article for The Boondock Saints, for which the consensus of reviewers, according to Rotten Tomatoes, is "A juvenile, ugly movie that represents the worst tendencies of directors channeling Tarantino." This is why I refer to it as a "lame work".

The quote itself is a hackneyed and inelegant expression of an idea that has been said far more memorably by a variety of eloquent luminaries. This is why I refer to it as a "lame quote".

I have real reservations about including articles on this sort of film in Wikiquote, but I recognize there is a consensus for celebrating poop culture with little regard for quotability. I do not support polluting serious theme articles with childishness or hack writing. ~ Ningauble (talk) 18:03, 11 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

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