Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Project-wide topics
The following discussions related to project-wide topics are requested to have community-wide attention: (
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Wikipedia style and naming
editWikipedia talk:Manual of Style
How should the gentilic (adjective and noun) form of the country Botswana be written on Wikipedia articles?
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Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography
MOS:INITIALS requires stops and spaces between people's initials:
However, there are seven American political figures known often by their initials in shorthand, and their initials across Wikipedia are used unspaced, in violation of this policy:
The only exception for spaced initials is given at MOS:BIOEXCEPT, which allows formats such as CCH Pounder but requires that the format be used only when
While some (but not all) sources currently write these names unspaced, the and requirement of MOS:BIOEXCEPT still restricts this usage as none of these men styled their names without spaces, preferring to go by their full names in nearly all cases. In John F. Kennedy's case, there is evidence he wrote his name with spaced initials.[1][2] Some style guides resolve this issue by making a difference in how spaced initials are treated when they are the full name. For instance, Turabian has
A previous discussion at Talk:Robert F. Kennedy Jr./Archive 8 § "RFK Jr." vs "R. F. K. Jr." led to a discussion about modifying BIOEXCEPT at § MOS:BIOEXCEPT: and/or, which was inconclusive. How should this discrepancy be resolved?
— Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 04:22, 14 February 2025 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catholicism
Should we drop the prefix "Roman Catholic" (or "Catholic") from the diocese and archdiocese pages where no disambiguation is needed? 11:08, 6 February 2025 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography
MOS:JOBTITLES currently reads:
Should we simplify MOS:JOBTITLES by removing exceptions #2 and/or #3? Surtsicna (talk) 22:52, 29 January 2025 (UTC) |
There is no point in syntaxhighlighting a word code.
The meaning of 'distinct' is "different from one another." -- Cedar101 (talk) 01:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC) |
Wikipedia policies and guidelines
editWikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles
Should the text of MOS:CALLIGRAPHY be
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Should Zourabichvili be described as the "incumbent president" given that no formal Georgian institutions recognise her as holding the office?
I suggest to remove the "incumbent" and "disputed" status and insert a footnote to the term end explaining that the presidency is contested [[1]]. Tahomaru (talk) 14:15, 11 February 2025 (UTC) |
There is currently no rule regarding "[author] ([year])" citing within a sentence. Should there be? 15:53, 7 February 2025 (UTC) |
this article contains the following quote “ Over the years that followed he added COVID conspiracies, MAGA support, open discrimination against LGBTQ+ people, lizard and paedophile conspiracies, alt-right propaganda, getting in bed with white supremacists and who knows what else by the time you read this introduction.” I believe that this is good enough to include in the overview section about what sinfest is about. We’ve been having a great deal of difficulty sourcing actual quotes about what it’s about, so this was hard to get. Another user believes since it’s a quote from a quote of an unreliable source, that it’s unusable, but I believe that since a reliable source quoted the unreliable source as fully accurate and true, at least in this case, it’s a good quote. Is the quote usable? Le Blue Dude (talk) 00:59, 30 January 2025 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:Verifiability/SPS RfC
This RfC is to determine the consensus about (1) whether the current explanation of "self-published" in WP:SPS generally serves us well, perhaps with small improvements, or if it should be revised in some significant way, and (2) how editors interpret "self-published," in order to help us revise the explanation if needed. |
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
Should WP:ATD-R be amended as follows:
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There is no point in syntaxhighlighting a word code.
The meaning of 'distinct' is "different from one another." -- Cedar101 (talk) 01:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC) |
WikiProjects and collaborations
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Wikipedia technical issues and templates
editWikipedia:Village pump (policy)
Should bots like Citation bot be allowed to remove redundant 'raw' PubMed URLs, and raw OCLC URLs when pmid/oclc identifiers are present.
Details Following the last, extremely frustrating discussion about the behaviour of bots wrt to links, the consensus that 'emerged' from it was that Citation both was to leave urls alone, unless it was replacing them with a free alternative (e.g. However, there are two corner case I would like to establish consensus for the removal of a link.
The reason is that those links will never contain free versions of articles, they will link to either the PubMed database, which only contain abstracts (free versions would be hosted at PubMed Central instead), or the OCLC database, which formerly held google book previews (then deemed useful), but no longer does. This means that these urls make it look like a free version is accessible, when really none are, making readers click through links that lead them to nowhere useful. Note that this isn't a proposal to removal any URL covered by an identifier (e.g. |
Wikipedia proposals
editWikipedia:Village pump (proposals)
Should other groups be able to use 2FA by default? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 16:13, 11 February 2025 (UTC) |
Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard
The EurAsian Times (used to have its own article but it was apparently PRODed) is cited in several hundreds of articles, mostly pertaining to Russian military hardware and South Asian issues, but not exclusively. It was mentioned a few times on this noticeboard but only on a surface level.
In light of all this, how would you rate the EurAsian Times?
Thank you. Choucas Bleu 🐦⬛ 22:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC) |
- ^ Knudsen, Robert. Book with President Kennedy's initials. White House Photographs. John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum. JFKWHP-KN-20381.
J. F. K.
- ^ Burning Tree Golf Club Bag Tag. John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum. MO 63.3724.7.
Sen. J. F. Kennedy