Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Cimino's unrealized projects

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The result was merge to Michael Cimino. (non-admin closure) – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 12:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Cimino's unrealized projects

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Do we really need a list of things Cimino tried doing, e.g. adapting Crime and Punishment, or projects he was considered for? Fails WP:LISTN. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:27, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Egad, there's a whole bunch of these things: Category:Lists of unrealized projects by artist, "artist" meaning film director. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:30, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as an exceptional case. The unrealised projects are referenced, and looking at the main article on Ciminio, his extraordinarily large number of failures and things that didn't get off the ground seems to be a big feature of his career and even notability. In a super-successful career, they'd have merged into the background, but in his case, they are the foreground. Nevertheless, this list is so large that it would be unwieldy to merge it all into the main article, so it works quite well as a separate list. But I do sympathise with the nominator: normally I'd have regarded a list like this as pretty pointless. Elemimele (talk) 20:18, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge If it were formatted more compactly, with bullet points instead of subsections for each film, and ifthe reference list just gave references without the quotes, it would be less than half its present length. Also, perhaps the films for which the reference shows just "one of those considered" should not be in the list. DGG ( talk ) 18:19, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:00, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: echoing Elemimele. I changed the formatting to bullet points and it's still completely unwieldy, so I don't think a merge is the way to go unless someone can remove about half or more of these. I only see a handful I feel like I could remove uncontroversially. -- asilvering (talk) 19:36, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Being "considered to direct" and "attempting" to write this and that, writing unproduced scripts or even simply being "interested in adapting Atlas Shrugged" are all pretty deletable IMO. That thins things down considerably. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:06, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further input would be really helpful
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:15, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Michael Cimino. The list here is way longer than Cimino's filmography unlike other artists with similar pages. Merging with the parent article would cover them per WP:DUE instead of indiscriminately listing every possible entry. -- Ab207 (talk) 20:14, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge the most important blocks and dump the rest. scope_creep^Talk 03:12, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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