Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Larry Stephens (wrestler)

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The result was keep. Shimeru (talk) 08:37, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Stephens (wrestler)

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Unsourced since 2007. No reliable sources found. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:08, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. —-- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:12, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Obivious keep. A quick search found this ref to back up the tag-team title claim. Lugnuts (talk) 09:30, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I noticed that the reference has been added to the NWA website - I don't know about whether this is counted as a reliable source or not, but the reference merely lists that he fought, it is not significant coverage about Larry himself -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:31, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:BIO. (Does WP:ATHLETE apply to professional wrestlers?) Joal Beal (talk) 12:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - WP:ATHLETE presumably applies, and this individual does not meet the criteria. Claritas (talk) 14:49, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well WP:ATHLETE states "People who have competed at the fully professional level of a sport", which this guy has, and he won a major title while doing so. Lugnuts (talk) 16:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Unless you want to start precedent which will lead to us going through and wholesale deleting all Professional Wrestlers because they are not mentioned in WP:ATHLETE. We have a source, he wrestled in the NWA and won a Tag-Team title, much less the years he spent in multiple organizations (which all those guys do).Trackinfo (talk) 23:02, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't believe in wholesale deletion - however, there are other wrestling articles which are unreferenced - if I come across them, I will look for RS to add, and if I can't find any, I am willing to AfD them. If you look at my contributions over the last couple of weeks, you will see that there are as many articles which I have found references for which have been unreferenced since May 2007, as there are articles which I have brought to AfD. I don't bring articles to AfD unless I have looked for references at RS. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:10, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's a world of difference though between someone who is notable with no RS and someone who isn't notable with no RS. Then again, the WP:ATHLETE guidance isn't exactly comprehensive! Lugnuts (talk) 07:04, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep WP:ATHLETE definitely applies, and he easily makes the cut because he has competed at the fully professional level of his sport. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Definitely notable, competed at the top level of his sport, won the NWA Tag Title. Obvious Keep--Curtis23's Us al ions 17:00, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above, with respects to the nominator. The subject does seem to fall under, and pass, the notability criteria for athletes. Regards, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 01:28, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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