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MT, can you work your magic and fix the spacing issues on Template:NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans? I've tried my best but I don't know how to set this navbox up so that 1905 through 1909 appear exactly in the correct spots, as well as 1929 appearing at the end of the row. I don't know coding and since User:LOL stopped editing six months ago I was hoping you could fix this. Thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 03:55, 9 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Well, I'm not familiar with hlist, but I'll try to figure out how. The problem is that I don't know how many spaces needed to replace one bullet point (•), it's larger than 3 spaces and smaller than 4 spaces. Here's a temporary solution but the excessive bullets look weird. Anyway, do you know any similar templates that uses hlist as well? — MT (talk) 05:07, 9 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Done, I found Template:College Football All-America Teams and uses their method with hidden years, <span style="color:white">1900 • 1901 • 1902 • 1903 • 1904 • </span>, written before the 1905. — MT (talk) 05:15, 9 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

That's awesome - thanks so much. I appreciate your quick response too. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

No problem, happy to help. — MT (talk) 06:17, 9 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you see any difference between this and this? I'm using two computers. The problem is, when I use my home computer, in the earlier version the years are still not aligned, therefore I changed the bullet format. I have no idea what caused this, and now I'm not sure that the years will be aligned in every computer. FYI, both version looks okay to me when I'm using my laptop with Windows Vista and Firefox or Chrome. But the earlier version does not look aligned when I'm using my PC with Windows XP. — MT (talk) 10:49, 10 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes there is a difference. The latter is correct because it automatically aligns the years in their proper sports irrespective of screen resolution, operating system or which computer one's on. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:05, 11 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Well, that's a relief. Just let me know if something went wrong. Cheers! — MT (talk) 06:46, 12 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Will do, thanks again MT. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:48, 13 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 13 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sorry about that man, cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 10:10, 13 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi MT, there was a small issue with the Sam Poo Kong nomination and feedback from you would be appreciated. Crisco 1492 (talk) 20:33, 19 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the message. I did notice that Elson was missing from the NBA.com players list a couple days ago, but he's there again. Your theory about waiving him and re-signing him does make sense; the Heat have done that with Mickell Gladness.

As long as the Sixers list him on their roster page, I guess we should still consider him a Sixer. Zagalejo^^^ 05:07, 14 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Cool, thanks. He did play tonight. Zagalejo^^^ 05:35, 16 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

It seems the the NBA infobox has gotten alot smaller. I've checked the talk page to see if any discussion had taken place and could not find one. Any reason as to why this has happened? Beast from da East (talk) 08:26, 4 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

MT, I saw where you added a number of awards and honors to Charles Jenkins (basketball). It was the consensus of WP:NBA (with collaboration from WP:CBBALL) that only awards or honors which appear on Template:College Basketball Awards and which have their own articles are regarded as worthy enough to be included in an NBA player's infobox (see here for discussion). I've removed, for instance, Jenkins' three-time All-CAA First Team honors and his 2-time honorable mention AP All-America selections. Thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 17:22, 23 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I remember that the discussion, but I believe consensus can change. Ever since that discussion, I started to think that Bagumba has a point. We shouldn't ignore a player's accomplishments during college even though the player may not be successful in professional level. There has been a lot of inconsistencies in college awards in the infobox, for example, see Jimmer Fredette (all awards, honors and records in the infobox) and Tyler Hansbrough (no college awards at all). I started to cleanup some players' awards section and then I found out that an article about All-Pac-10 Conference Team exists. Since then, I started to keep and add All-Conference Teams and then I get carried on and adding a lot of stuffs in the infobox. I might've gone overboard with AP Honorable Mention and All-Tournament Teams, but I believe an All-Conference Team and All-American (non-consensus) are quite an accomplishment that could be kept in the infobox. Do you think these awards are worth keeping? If so, perhaps I should start a discussion for a new consensus, perhaps a more detailed one. — MT (talk) 17:41, 23 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

I know consensus can change, I just think it's a really slippery slope when one starts adding awards and honors that don't even have corresponding articles. I'm not even certain that the All-Pac 12 Conference Teams article should exist, but that's a different debate altogether. One of the guidelines of navboxes is that there should be a corresponding article to its existence, which I feel is a good prerequisite for the concept of infobox awards. If not, it too easily becomes a slippery slope of fanboys going in and editing their favorites players' articles to say that "John Smith was a 4th Team All-American by KenoshaTimes.com." When an editor adds a non-notable honor/award and it gets reverted, we can point to the consensus already in place to say 'that's why it got reverted.' Leaving it open-ended like this will bring more bad than good. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

I guess you're right, I'll stick to the consensus for now. — MT (talk) 01:44, 24 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

There was a later discussion at Template_talk:Infobox_basketball_biography#College.2FHS_awards, along with guidelines for highlights at {{Infobox basketball biography}}. Perhaps I'm biased about All-Pac-12 being the article creator, but there are enough sources that cover it year in and year out that I'd be surprised if did not meet WP:LISTN. I've reverted some of MT's edits that removed mention of All-Pac-12.—Bagumba (talk) 07:24, 24 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

I'm an editor that likes consistencies very much, therefore if All-Pac-12 as an All-Conference awards is listed in some players, I'd like to list every All-Conference Team because they are somewhat equal achievements. However, I don't have a strong opinion on All-Conference awards. If there is anything I would like to argue for inclusion are individual All-Americans Selections (non-consensus), such as the one in Charles Jenkins article. Sporting News All-Americans is one of the four teams used to select consensus teams and therefore I believe it is notable that they ranks Jenkins as one of the best 15 players nationally in 2011. I believe this supersedes Jenkins' conference player of the year award win as the award is only for the best in its conference. — MT (talk) 08:05, 24 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

I can agree with not listing awards that will never have standalone articles, but that must be distinguished from articles that don't currently exist but should be created. There should be enough sources to satisfy LISTN for each Div I All-Conference team. The prior consensus was that college awards be listed as long as it didn't overwhelm the infobox. A non-consensus All-American should be listed if a player has few accomplishments, which was previously agreed to be < 5 NBA highlights. IMO it is not helpful to the reader if run-of-the-mill pro players do not have their college awards highlighted. Those really are the highlights of most players' careers.—Bagumba (talk) 08:22, 24 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hey, we need to limit template use when updating. Thanks.—Chris!_c/t 02:16, 24 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

My bad, I didn't use show preview before applying the update. — MT (talk) 02:34, 24 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

—Bagumba (talk) 04:52, 27 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Martin, kudos on the creation of the new Gators in the NBA article. It is an excellent list article. The existence of the new article creates a problem, however. The older article, which includes both NBA and WNBA players, duplicates two-thirds of the content of the new article. This is contrary to Wikipedia policy, and also causes duplication/structural/relational problems within the larger family of Florida Gators sports articles, lists and navboxes. My initial thoughts are either (1) the two articles need to be merged to a single article and a common format, or (2) the older article needs to be retasked to "Florida Gators in the WNBA." I wanted to solicit your thoughts before I slapped a "merge" template on the two articles. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:50, 1 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! In my opinion, it's better to retask the old article to Gators in the WNBA. I could re-write the WNBA list to a similar format with NBA list. Gators men's and women's basketball team have separate articles and therefore I don't see a need to have both NBA and WNBA players in the same article. — MT (talk) 17:18, 1 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Martin, I think that's probably the best solution. If you have time to drop the WNBA Gators into the same format you used for the NBA Gators, and retask the old article as a WNBA-only list, I would be grateful. It might otherwise be a couple of weeks before I can focus on it. Obviously, the retasked article will need to be moved/renamed. Also, I hope you won't mind if I add "see also" sections and other formatting features that are common to all Florida Gators articles . . . . It's been a long process to upgrade this family of articles over time, and several of the articles are still works in progress. The men's and women's basketball articles are both due for major rewrites and upgrades, including comprehensive program histories and proper footnote sourcing per WP:V and WP:RS. I'm glad to see you're a footnote machine; you're a man after my own heart. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:42, 1 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

No worries, I'll work on the WNBA list soon. Women's basketball is kind of uncharted territory for me, but I think I wouldn't have any problem because they are very similar and the sources are widely availbale. Feel free to add and change anything you want. After all, I don't own the NBA Gators article, and you are the expert on Florida Gators topic. Anyway, if you ever need any help with NBA/basketball-related article, just let me know. — MT (talk) 04:16, 2 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hey, I get that it's explained in the notes section but to say Cleveland won the lottery is misleading. The L.A Clippers were the ones that technically won even though they had the 8th best chance at getting the pick. Putting Cleveland alone there makes it seem as if they won with the second best chance. It is the Clippers combination which won, which was then transferred to Cleveland. I thought I did a decent job displaying that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.191.56 (talk) 18:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

You are among the top 5% of most active Wikipedians this past month! 67.80.64.128 (talk) 22:53, 15 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Nominate it already. :) --K.Annoyomous (talk) 08:29, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Just wondering, are you still around? Zagalejo^^^ 23:13, 12 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hey, sorry for the late reply. I'm currently on a wikibreak because of work. I'm still around reading wikipedia and doing some minor edits as an anonymous IP. I'm trying to avoid logging in because I'm afraid that if I look at my abandoned watchlist, I'll start editing again. I'm not sure how long will this break last, but I really hope that I can return soon. Anyway, congratulations on your successful RFA. Cheers! — MT (talk) 13:48, 8 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Welcome back. Any amount of time you can squeeze here is definitely an asset.—Bagumba (talk) 02:39, 10 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Hello, Martin tamb. I saw your edit on NBA DPoY and was just curious, are you monitoring his career closely to readd him as active if he joins another team? Shouldn't we at least wait a while to see what happens?Hoops gza (talk) 01:42, 6 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

I'll highlight him and any other players as active if they sign another NBA contract. I just feel those NBA awards lists were poorly maintained with plenty of inactive players (some even have formally retired and became coaches i.e. Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace), but were still listed as "active players". I was just trying to make the list as up to date as possible. — MT (talk) 08:55, 6 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Good luck with solving the 77 links to disambiguation pages that you have introduced on San Antonio Spurs all-time roster with your two edits. The Banner talk 20:57, 14 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Martin, you as the creator of the redirect Charlotte Hornets (1988–2002) → Charlotte Hornets would probably find this highly contested CfD interesting and your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:01, 6 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Martin - if you feel strongly about "ungreying" names then do so. I guess I don't see it as CRYSTAL or OR if there is no chance they will be active on an NBA roster on opening night (ie - signed a contract for the upcoming season elsewhere or injured for months). These would be greyed during the first week of the season anyway and the shading removed once they appear in a game at some point in the future. But I'm not that hard over on it. Rikster2 (talk) 10:56, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hello Martin, I'm not sure if it counts as international representation, but Emmanuel Mudiay represented DR Congo at the Nike Hoops Summit. ElectricPelican (talk) 7:22, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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