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Clearly you know nothing about football.

revision hide request

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hello, there was some pretty bad vandalism on Valley Rangers F.C. I think it might be worthy of a revdelete. Gaismagorm (talk) 18:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

heres a link since some new edits were made: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Valley_Rangers_F.C.&diff=prev&oldid=1233755683 Gaismagorm (talk) 18:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Got it. Thanks! Joyous! Noise! 19:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
no problem! Gaismagorm (talk) 19:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why are you modifying the page of Kimberly Cheatle and covering up gross negligence by the S.S? political bias?

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Why are you modifying the page of Kimberly Cheatle and covering up gross negligence by the S.S? political bias? Ashday0790 (talk) 02:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I haven't reverted anything that was neutral in wording or properly sourced. If you want to add information about the shooting, get a reliable source to cite, and use an encyclopedic tone. Joyous! Noise! 02:23, 14 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Revision deletion

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Hello Joyous!. I wish to delete two revisions. Can you please help? Jack Riding (talk) 13:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Which revisions are you referring to? Joyous! Noise! 13:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sorry for the late response. I’ve since been told that they don’t meet the criteria required to be deleted. Jack Riding (talk) 14:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 22 July 2024

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Deleted edit summaries

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Why'd you delete my edit summaries? Ogundareibrahim123 (talk) 00:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

We prefer not to have personal information such as phone numbers or email addresses in articles or edit summaries. Joyous! Noise! 00:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
This diff contains similar. CMD (talk) 01:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you!

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Dear Joyous,

Thank you so much for all of your contributions to Yanni’s Wikipedia page. Your work and the help of others has been invaluable in sharing his story and achievements with the world. You all have done such a great job ensuring everything is up to date and it’s helpful to see all of the albums listed out as well.

We are wondering if it would be possible to enhance his Wikipedia page by adding a note about me, his daughter, in a “children’s” section. Additionally, we are considering creating a separate page for my own work and contributions.

Could you please advise on the best approach for adding this information? We’d like to maintain the integrity of the page and fit within the rules and requirements so I wanted to connect with you first. We are more than happy to provide any details or references needed for both updates, or follow any preferred process you suggest.

Thank you for your time and guidance. We look forward to your response.

Warmly, Kindness12 (talk) 15:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why you deleted and blocked my addition? All i wrote is facts and no opinions at all. If you think different, please prove me wrong.

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What you do is taking an opinion.. 2A0D:6FC0:2848:C300:9DBC:56D6:D71E:24D (talk) 20:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

What I'm doing is following the guidelines at WP:NPOV and WP:OR, which are policies at Wikipedia. Your edits were pretty far outside those guidelines. Joyous! Noise! 21:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
But is not taking any side.. it is pure fact. There is no such country as palestine. 2A06:C701:729A:ED00:F522:424B:55DD:5C64 (talk) 21:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
This is a great discussion to have at the article's talk page. I'm not going to argue about it here. If you'd like me to open up a new section on that page, let me know. I'll be happy to help. Joyous! Noise! 23:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Question

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Is this revision satisfy the WP:RD2? Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:17, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Note: I request a speedy deletion of the photo. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I did a rev-del on the edit. Sorry for missing it the first time--I didn't recognize the slang. It looks like the photo is already gone. Joyous! Noise! 16:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

revdel request

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a pretty bad edit was made on Barbara Buffaloe, I think it may be worthy of a revision deletion. Thanks! Gaismagorm (talk) 14:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

new edits were made, so here's the edit that needs to be hidden: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barbara_Buffaloe&oldid=1237178431 Gaismagorm (talk) 14:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Got it. Thanks! Joyous! Noise! 16:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
no problem! Gaismagorm (talk) 16:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

revdel request

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hey there was a bad edit on Black pride, I think it should probably be revdeleted. Heres the link to the edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_pride&diff=prev&oldid=1237574174 Gaismagorm (talk) 13:09, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! I love zapping that kind of edit. Joyous! Noise! 16:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
no problem Gaismagorm (talk) 17:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

question about revdel

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does something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LaVyrle_Spencer&diff=prev&oldid=1238183874 meet the requirements for a revdel Gaismagorm (talk) 15:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I personally don't think it reaches rev/del levels. Joyous! Noise! 20:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ah okay thanks Gaismagorm (talk) 22:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

You've got mail

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Hello, Joyous!. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.-1ctinus📝🗨 02:49, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Re: Edit

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In short, it wasn't me, some user before me added it and I was calling the new edit into question since this was the first time I heard about her throwing the pot. I didn't see a source on it either and deleted it first, but since there was info further up apparently supporting the new content, which the new body cam footage seemingly showed as well, I reverted my changes again. My latest edit was just moving the source it was tacked on (which didn't mention anything about the pot being thrown, just holding it above her head). You seem to be under the impression I had added it unsourced, but since I didn't, your reversal didn't remove it. Just letting you know. Someone more well versed in the case than me or the other user should probably look into that.

62.216.215.184 (talk) 16:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for the error. So much has been added and deleted and re-added and re-deleted that I lost track. Joyous! Noise! 17:05, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – August 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).

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  • Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
  • Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.

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I found a lost wiki user

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I discovered that you reverted an edit on Chippy Simmons article by another user, however that user seems confused and left a Talk topic on User talk:Sohom Datta instead of replying to the topic you started on their talk page... They seem to have their birth certificate and were looking for a way to provide proof. What's even more confusing is that I was trying to cross verify this anywhere online, and I only find more conflicting dates. This article is just a few day's off from this user's contribution. Colinstu (talk) 07:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 14 August 2024

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User talk:Archeologyispseudoscience

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Blocked, some nasty stuff in the filter log. Doug Weller talk 07:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! Joyous! Noise! 11:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Evasion

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Hi, these IP address appears to be Xiaomichel evading the block, same style of changes: [1] and [2]. JacktheBrown (talk) 16:28, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

'Ello Joyous

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I'm a bit bored with reverting vandalism. Do you have any advice on where I could lend a hand? Or if any talk page stalkers can make any suggestions? Maybe need to keep in mind I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I get there in the end! Thank you. Knitsey (talk) 19:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Howdy, Knitsey! A couple of odds and ends I like dipping into:
  • Project Merge because some articles work better combined. The project pages looks intimidating, but it's not, especially if you have installed Twinkle.
  • De-orphaning articles means finding articles with no incoming links (there's a list, you don't actually have to FIND them), and add links to that orphan in at least one other article, when possible.

If either of those sound interesting, I'd be happy to help you get rolling on them. Joyous! Noise! 20:07, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

De-orphaning might be a good place to start. I did look at that some time ago but I wasn't sure about removing the tags side of it. I'm more confident about that now though. I could give that a go if you're willing to look at the first few I do just to make sure I'm doing it correctly? I will have another read through the process. Knitsey (talk) 20:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Happy to help. I remove the tag if I add even one incoming link. Joyous! Noise! 20:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
OK, I've read through the de-orphaning policy.
Look for a meaningful links, check categories, if I can add one or more links then use the de-orphan summary, remove the orphan tag using the de-orpaned summary.
Does the de-orphan summary/removing the orphan tag automatically remove it from the list or do I do that manually? Does removing the tag automatically generate a message to the page creator?
Thank you for helping me! Knitsey (talk) 20:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Removing the tag removes the article from the list. No message is generated to the page creator, and there's no need for you to message them: it's just a "regular" edit. Joyous! Noise! 21:03, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Lovely, thank you. If I do a few tomorrow, can I just message you here so you can check my work and that I've done it correctly? I don't envisage problems, so just the first three that I do? I don't want to add too much to your work. Knitsey (talk) 21:09, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Any time! Truly happy to help! Joyous! Noise! 21:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Well this isn't going great. I did 5 November 1946 Vnukovo aircraft crashes which wasn't a problem. The next one I tried was Bloomage. I didn't need to do anything as links were already added but the orphaned tag was added after someone else added links. I then looked at Chang Wen-chen and again, the orphan tag was added even though someone added links. What am I missing. Knitsey (talk) 16:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Bloomage has been changed now, it was an error. Knitsey (talk) 16:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't think you're "missing" anything. The ones that already have incoming links from other articles...you're tidying those up by removing the tag. Possibly someone added the link to Article A from Article B, but never actually noticed the orphan tag sitting on top of Article A, so it never got removed. Joyous! Noise! 17:03, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

OK, thanks for checking for me. I bet you regret me asking now lol. I feel confident about adding links and de-orphaning. If I run into any problems then I can always ask advice from the person adding the link. It's a nice break from anti-vandalism. You're a star, ty, Knitsey (talk) 17:51, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Not at all regretting. Enjoy! Joyous! Noise! 17:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – September 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).

  Administrator changes

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  Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past.
  • A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.

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The Signpost: 4 September 2024

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Question

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I do not understand what you are saying regarding blocks and vandalism? I just spent the better part of 4 hours trying to add citations and additional information to a page that had a flag on it requesting it be cited better. Every historical data point I cited per APA and Chicago and I sourced to direct sources. what is the issue?+

Hi! Are you asking about the block notice? Or the copyright messages? Joyous! Noise! 00:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Does this look notable to you?

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This article looks a bit sketchy to me.

Permanent link

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Awwww, it's right on the edge to me. I have raised an eyebrow, but I don't think I would AFD it if I ran across it on my own. Joyous! Noise! 21:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Cool, thanks!
Kingsmasher678 (talk) 23:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Appeal 2024

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Hi @Joyous!: I'm 2RDD. I've been editing Wikipedia for a year now and have made over a thousand edits. I'm passionate about maintaining article quality and combating vandalism. I believe Rollbacker rights would help me make a bigger impact. I'm eager to take on this responsibility and contribute to our community's mission. Thanks for considering my request! 2RDD (talk) 10:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, 2RDD. I don't feel comfortable assigning rollback rights for a couple of reasons. 1) I don't see any evidence from your contributions that you engage in much anti-vandal work, outside of a few specific articles that you've created or contributed heavily to. 2) I'm not convinced that you see a difference between "vandalism" and "edits that I don't much like on an article that I care about." Most of your edit reversions have no helpful explanation, and you rarely leave a comment on either the other editor's talk page, or on the talk page of the article itself. I'm sorry to have to decline. Joyous! Noise! 19:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Re: September 2024

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Hello @Joyous! Thank you for leaving me a welcome message. I would like to clarify that my edit was neither a test nor a misspelling. I changed "Argentinian" to "Argentine", because it's the most commonly employed demonym for people from Argentina and its usage is sometimes recommended over other alternatives (e.g., [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]). I would greatly appreciate it if you would reconsider leaving my edit in place. Once again, thank you. 186.152.162.193 (talk) 04:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

So sorry for the error! Thanks for teaching me something. Joyous! Noise! 05:02, 9 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
No problem at all! I will restore my edit. Thanks! 186.152.162.193 (talk) 05:44, 9 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Pending Changes Reviewer

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Hello,@Joyous!,

I was wondering if I could get access to the pending changes permission. I've been hanging around for a while, and think I could help keep the backlog down a bit.

Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 20:13, 9 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

2600:1700::/30

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Hi Joyous!! I'm messaging you to let you know that I just strengthened this range's block to a site-wide block and set it to expire one month for now due to this edit that I just caught. I'm letting you know about this because you had modified the block for this range that has still been ongoing. I'm not sure as to how extensive, related, or how frequent the past vandalism from this range has been, but the previous block logs made it clear that stronger blocks would be imposed if shenanigans continue. Please know that you're welcome to modify, reduce, remove, strengthen, turn upside-down, - whatever you want to the block modification that I imposed. Just let me know and why; It would be good information in case this range pops up on my radar again. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:46, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the heads-up. Pretty much never bothers me to have a block adjusted. I'll let you know if anything else goes on there that I notice. Joyous! Noise! 14:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

You beat me to the block, but question...

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"He1488il"? Username violation? If it's really bad, please redact that. I'm trying to jumble the letters and numbers together to formulate what the username is saying... yeah I got nothing. Help? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

1488 Joyous! Noise! 04:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

2604:3D08:7A8E:C00::/64

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2604:3D08:7A8E:C00::/64 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

Hi, thanks for the block here. Would you consider extending it? The previous block was for 1 year (see block log, which expired today at 16:12, and the vandalism started up again only a little more than an hour later at 17:33. I know some admins don't like to make longer blocks, but in this case, I don't think we'll ever see a constructive editor from the IP range (and /64 range blocks have pretty much no collateral damage). Would you consider extending the block to another year? Thanks. 73.67.145.30 (talk) 17:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done Joyous! Noise! 17:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Pending Changes Reviewer Backlog

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Hello,

Would you be able to respond to the (admittedly small, 3-person) backlog at Pending Changes Review? I don't mean to be impatient, but I would love to have this tool - it would allow me to further improve the encyclopedia. I saw you granted a request a few days ago.

Thanks so much!

199.111.212.29 (talk) 04:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Just an FYI, you arn't logged in for this comment.
Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 26 September 2024

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2024).

 

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Reason for deletion of edit?

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Jimmy Ferguson’s grand daughter - I’m his daughter. Please revert this edit. Lemonsalty (talk) 05:12, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply