Doc Strange

Thanks for your hard work on the 65th Grammy Awards page. I could see that you edited in real time, keeping the article up to date as it went along. My roommate and I watched from Alaska, and we enjoyed it. Your efforts prevented a lot of “heavy lifting” from being needed after the program. Well done! Juneau Mike (talk) 02:43, 7 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi there! You seemed to have rollbacked my edit on the article Hansie, where I removed a paragraph that was copied word-for-word from the film's plot summary page at IMDB by an IP user over 10 years ago. I also decided to remove the line after it, as it was unsourced and was not entirely related to the film. If I made a mistake, do let me know. Thanks! PritongKandule-✉️📝 15:58, 17 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

• Hi @PritongKandule, Yes, I was trying to revert this OR edit from a user who had also vandalised the Sting wiki (which you actually reverted, thank you!), and your edit must've gotten caught in the middle. I've already reverted the Hansie page to remove the IMDB copyvio. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 16:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi nice to meet you I was trying to expand that page and it is necessary to create a separate article for each song, mainly considering that they were also released as separate singles. Would you help me to change the name of the article? I would need it to be called just Keepin' the Faith Thank you in advance for your attention Nohayunolibre (talk) 17:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi, could I possibly ask you to take a look at my new article, Eddy Giles? I have made some clean-up and included some new facts. I have found two articles in the Shreveport Times (from 2015 and 2023); Giles has his own heading in Joel Whitburn's book (noted Billboard historian). Do you think, the article deserves keeping it or deletion? It has been tagged. Without doubt author Whitburn and the Shreveport Times are reliable sources (the article does not include content from blogs, forums, social media). I always fear of conflict of interests. I have written the article, so I'm not sure if it's fair for me to remove the tag. My goal is to write articles on obscure musicaians. Articles I have created are Jesse Anderson (musician), John Kilzer, Freddie Hughes, among others. Not every musician was lucky enough to be as famous as Olivia Newton-John or David Bowie, but had their impact though. Please find some time and take a closer look at it. GeorgeJack (talk) 13:02, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

In addition to blocking 2404:160:8165:7269:0:0:0:0/64 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)), I have also per the IPs you reported at AN/I two weeks ago rangeblocked 180.74.0.0/16 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) for three months (as with the above range). Daniel Case (talk) 02:58, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Daniel Case: Thanks! But based on my watchlist, it looks like they've immediately come back: 2404:160:8107:34E5:223C:4BDB:DE0:E21D (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 14:03, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Looks like this one's been taking care of too. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 14:19, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

You are recipient no. 2851 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Gerda Arendt, thank you! Doc Strange ^MailboxLogbook 02:40, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Doc Strange decided to delete my addition of Kate Bush's biggest achievement in the opening paragraph of her discography, the recharting of "Running Up That Hill" which hit #1 around the world. He restored the opening paragraph to just a simple recitation of how many records and albums she released. I'm not sure why.

Doc Strange is listed as a "Dead Head." A check of the Grateful Dead's discography has five fairly long opening paragraphs. Would we say Annie Lennox is Kate Bush's contemporary? Her discography has two opening paragraphs. How about Dusty Springfield? Six sentences long. Wouldn't re-charting with a #1 hit 37 years later be something you'd want to see in the opening paragraph, a significant discography achievement?

I'm also taken aback that my contribution was deleted within 13 minutes of posting it. That doesn't leave much time for deliberation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregg - nh153 (talk • contribs)

@Gregg - nh153:, Hi there! Firstly, You should sign your comments on other users' talk page. Secondly, I've left a note on your talk page to please assume good faith on other editor's edits. Wikipedia is live, and other editors can make edits or reversions at any time. I removed your passage from the discography page for a couple reasons. It wasn't really up to snuff with the Wikipedia Manual of Style, and it had a lot of overlinking of countries that isn't really necessary. The Dusty Springfield and Grateful Dead articles mention specific songs, just not albums, and some editors try to strive for a consistent style on those pages. If you'd like to add it back with some references, feel free, but some other editors may disagree that only one song should be mentioned in the intro of a discography page. I am pinging into this conversation Derek R Bullamore, whose revision I reverted to and who does a lot more work on discography pages than I do and if he's interested, he might be able to answer some of your questions about what goes on discography pages on his own talk page. Doc Strange ^MailboxLogbook 21:44, 31 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

What are the criteria for the info being sourced or not (It wasn't me who added that info back), but some other achievements aren't sourced either?

Like the "Artists with the most cumulative weeks at number one". One has to add them up in their heads... Billboard only lists the amount of weeks spent at #1 by a certain song, not the overall artist numbers.

In the same way, one has to add the weeks manually/in their heads to know the total weeks at #1 from "x" album. So, what's the difference? 2A01:11:320:1340:989D:410C:53CE:1EB8 (talk) 00:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

And then "Fifteen songs released on an independent record label have reached number one on the chart" doesn't have a single source...

@2A01:11:320:1340:989D:410C:53CE:1EB8: Without a source, that could be removed from the article as original research. That's why I assume that a fact about Korn that has been commented out in that section for lack of a reference. It's always best to provide a source. The independent section also might need to be altered, since it does not have a source. There is one for the first three - "Come Out and Play", "What It's Like", and "Panic Switch" here: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/chart-beat-lady-gaga-kenny-chesney-silversun-pickups-26835. But none of the rest of them. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 00:58, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Listing the Grammy Award "year ceremony airs" as the year of the award is wrong. I know you know this. If we don't feel like going thru all the trouble of correcting the page, then each listing should say "won Grammy for Album, single, whatever" of the year without mentioning the (wrong} year at all.Hotcop2 (talk) 02:14, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

There is an exploratory footnote at the top of each table in the article that reads "Each year is linked to the article about the Grammy Awards held that year." If you want to change the formatting of the whole List of Grammy Award categories, you're likely going to need community consensus for that, seeing as that would be a significant change to several pages. The year of the ceremony was likely selected because the Grammy eligibility period is not the Jan. 1 to Dec. 31 calendar year but one that spans two different years (i.e. late 1980 albums such as Double Fantasy are not eligible for the awards presented in 1981 but are for the awards for 1982). Changing just one year in one table so there's a duplicate 1981 and no 1982 doesn't work. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 02:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I took this to the talk page before but nobody "talked" back. I realize it's a BIG task, which I why I suggested a bunch editors get on board, pick a decade, and make the adjustments, to which nobody responded. It can stay wrong here, but I've changed it on Christopher Cross' and Lennon's page because it was incorrect.Hotcop2 (talk) 13:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi and thanks for adding some good material and references there. You left an error in the referencing though; I'm assuming that there was only one "Aswad" source? If so, I think I have fixed it. If not, could you take another look please? 84.66.42.64 (talk) 19:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yes, there was only one of those references. Thanks for fixing it! Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 20:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I speak from Old England rather than the newer version, which I assume is equally lovely. Having watched the 'Deaths' page for years now, I never fail to notice how often some 'dear departed Yank' was a member of (and there appears to be an infinite variety of them) one 'Hall of Fame' or another. Does everyone in the States have at least a mention in one of those 'Halls' ? Equally, and the more obscure the individual the more this occurs, but those closely, or even loosely, connected with the music industry are described in their own Wiki articles as 'Grammy nominees'. It seems as if not winning something is deemed perfectly acceptable/notable. I have lost track of how many things I have failed to win. Perhaps I could amass a heap of money placing all sorts of fools in the soon to be created 'Never Won Bugger All' Hall of Fame ! Best wishes. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

It is just something that has been noted in those pages for some time - mostly for sports, but music in this case - and I happen to regularly edit pages involving that particular Hall of Fame. Also I would like to note the last Rock Hall inductee to have died and be listed on that page was not American. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 22:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for that. I am no expert but the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame seems to have as many distractors as devotees. To be fair, the Wiki article does spend some time commenting on that very subject. Whilst Richard Tandy may well have been the most recent, I'll be surprised if most (if not all) of the next 20 reported deaths falling under that 'title' are Americans. As far as being Grammy nominees are concerned, I suppose I should edit in how many musos fail to win a Brit Award - like me. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:07, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello,

Is the following deceased person considered notable according to wikipedia guidelines? https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/29512682/lionel-elika-fatupaito-dead-olympic-village/amp/ FerasWebsite (talk) 17:06, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with the sports notability guidelines, I mostly work on music articles. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 17:22, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, thank you for your reply. 2A01:9700:12CB:9500:11ED:B84E:8935:20C (talk) 17:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply