User talk:Chicdat/Archive 6
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Your recent post
Just wanted to let you know that your recent post was removed, and I suspect you can figure out why. There are better ways of joining discussions like that. Primefac (talk) 13:04, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- As I said, I was fine with that. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 09:55, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
The Signpost: 25 April 2021
- From the editor: A change is gonna come
- Disinformation report: Paid editing by a former head of state's business enterprise
- In the media: Fernando, governance, and rugby
- Opinion: The (Universal) Code of Conduct
- Op-Ed: A Little Fun Goes A Long Way
- Changing the world: The reach of protest images on Wikipedia
- Recent research: Quality of aquatic and anatomical articles
- Traffic report: The verdict is guilty, guilty, guilty
- News from Wiki Education: Encouraging professional physicists to engage in outreach on Wikipedia
The Signpost: 25 April 2021
- From the editor: A change is gonna come
- Disinformation report: Paid editing by a former head of state's business enterprise
- In the media: Fernando, governance, and rugby
- Opinion: The (Universal) Code of Conduct
- Op-Ed: A Little Fun Goes A Long Way
- Changing the world: The reach of protest images on Wikipedia
- Recent research: Quality of aquatic and anatomical articles
- Traffic report: The verdict is guilty, guilty, guilty
- News from Wiki Education: Encouraging professional physicists to engage in outreach on Wikipedia
A barnstar for you!
The Editor's Barnstar | |
Congrats on finally getting Owen to a GA! ~~ πππ²π π²πΎππΎπ½π°π 13:20, 29 April 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you. It took me nearly a year, and I needed a lot of help, but at last it was done. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:05, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
GA Review
Hi Chicdat, I am happy to announce that your Article Cyclone Owen passed the Good Article Review. Keep up the good work! CommanderWaterford (talk) 09:00, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's just what I've been hoping for! π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:02, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Timelines
Per WP:Too Soon, if we really do need timelines for the Atlantic and Pacific hurricane seasons, (which I highly doubt) then we do not need to prepare them in advance before the first system develops as there is no meaningful content before then. The season articles get an exception to this as season forecasts are usually produced ahead of the season.Jason Rees (talk)
- I will keep that in mind in the future. Chicdat (talk) 10:03, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
47th issue of Hurricane Herald newsletter
The Hurricane Herald
The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the member list. New members will automatically receive this newsletter. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from March 1βApril 30, 2021. This edition's editors and authors are MarioJump83, Chicdat, Super Cyclonic Storm Corona, HurricaneEdgar, Dam222, AwesomeHurricaneBoss, LightandDark2000, LowercaseGuy (one of the editor's picks for Member of the Month), and our Members of the Month, CycloneFootball71, and CodingCyclone! Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions, including past MoTMs and SoTMs, can be viewed here. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments
New articles since the last newsletter include:
New GA's include:
New A-Class articles include Cyclone LeonβEline and Hurricane Olivia (2018). Member of the month (Editor's Pick) β Akbermamps and LowercaseGuy In this edition of Hurricane Herald, I (MarioJump83, one of the Hurricane Herald editors) am going to pick Akbermamps and LowercaseGuy. Both of them contributed to nearly all of the new articles since the publishing of the last issue (and also they contributed to the last issue itself). All of these articles primarily covered the Western Pacific basin, but also they worked on missing Tropical cyclones in xxxx articles and Southern Hemisphere articles. They both were driving factors in some of the greatest growth the WPTC has ever seen since Issues 42, 43, and 44. Both of them are hard workers, who remain civil, and treat others with kindness, despite hardships. Akbermamps also has reverted many nonconstructive edits from many different articles, plus they have made many great edits to tropical cyclone articles, as said above. LowercaseGuy also has made many great edits, per above, plus they have kept the newsletter up to date with all of the new article creations, new GA's, and A-class articles within the project. Because of this, I can only say that I am very proud of them!
None during this period.
Since the last issue of this newsletter, I have noticed that there is an uptick of activity involving 2018 Global FT topic recently. Hurricane Noah came back from almost-retirement, then afterwards improved Hurricane Olivia (2018) into A-class, 2018 Pacific hurricane season within striking distance of it and Timeline of the 2018 Pacific hurricane season potentially became the second featured list we are going to have this year. Meanwhile, I have been focusing all of my efforts in WPTC at improving Cyclone Owen, by Chicdat, into GA status and end all drama between him and all other WPTC editors. Two MoTMs that I have personally picked, Akbermamps and LowercaseGuy, joined the fray (not joining us officially) and improved some 2018 Pacific typhoon season articles that I have created, including the creation of both two articles listed above (and as of right now, Akbermamps is building up Timeline of the 2018 Pacific typhoon season article in his sandbox). I'm very glad to see this happening and I hope this newly found activity could be kept up in the next two months. During these months, I am hoping that Noah might make efforts at improving Hurricane Bud (2018) towards FA eventually. MarioJump83!
If you are interested in writing new articles, promoting articles to GA, or helping with the FAC review process for the Global 2018 FT project, please reach out to LightandDark2000 or any other member of the 2018 FT task force. WikiProject To-Do
Storms of the month and other tropical activity for March and April SoTM for March β Cyclone Niran Cyclone Niran originated from a developing tropical low off the coast of Queensland on February 27. Afterward, the system slowly began to strengthen, while making a slow clockwise loop, bringing heavy flooding to parts of Queensland. On March 1, the system strengthened into a Category 1 tropical cyclone on the Australian region basin scale, and was given the name Niran by the BoM. On March 3, Niran began to undergo rapid intensification as it began accelerating away from the Australian coast, towards the southeast. On March 5, Niran crossed over into the FMS's area of responsibility, in the South Pacific basin. Soon afterward, the cyclone reached its peak intensity as a Category 5 tropical cyclone on both the Australian region scale and the SaffirβSimpson scale (SSHWS), with maximum 10-minute sustained winds of 205 km/h (125 mph), maximum 1-minute sustained winds of 260 km/h (160 mph), and a central minimum pressure of 931 millibars (27.5 inHg). Several hours later, Niran underwent an eyewall replacement cycle and encountered wind shear, which caused the storm to begin weakening. The storm continued moving towards the southeast at a rapid pace, and on March 6, the storm struck the island of Grande Terre in New Caledonia, as a Category 3-equivalent tropical cyclone on the SSHWS, although the storm's eye stayed offshore. On March 6, Niran transitioned into an extratropical cyclone, and two days later, Niran was absorbed into another larger extratropical storm to the south. Niran caused at least $200 million (2021 USD) in damages, the vast majority of which came from banana crop damage in Queensland. No deaths were reported from the storm. SoTM for April β Cyclone Seroja On March 19, the BoM began monitoring a developing tropical low to the south of Timor, which they designated as 22U. On April 3, the system fully developed into a tropical low. For the next couple of days, the system made a slow counterclockwise loop over a part Indonesia and over Timor, gradually strengthening as it did so, causing torrential floods that killed at least 229 people. On April 4, the system strengthened into a Category 1 tropical cyclone on the Australian region scale and was named Seroja by TCWC Jakarta. On April 5, Seroja began moving southwestward, away from Indonesia. The storm encountered wind shear during this time, but the storm maintained tropical cyclone intensity. On April 7, Seroja began closely interacting with Tropical Low 23U to the northeast, which later became Cyclone Odette, as a result of the Fujiwhara effect. The two storms began closely interacting on April 8, as the two storms drew closer to each other. The interaction initially caused both storms to weaken, though Seroja eventually restrengthen and 23U strengthened into Tropical Cyclone Odette later that day. However, soon afterward, Seroja became the stronger storm and begen to absorb Odette into its circulation. On April 10, Seroja absorbed Odette, before turning to the southeast and strengthening again. The system continued stregthening up until landfall, and the system made landfall on April 12 near Gregory, Western Australia, at peak intensity, as a Category 3 severe tropical cyclone on the Australian region scale and a Category 1-equivalent tropical cyclone on the SaffirβSimpson scale. Afterward, Seroja weakened as it moved inland, and the system transitioned into an extratropical storm, before emerging into the Great Australian Bight. Later that day, Seroja was absorbed by a larger extratropical cyclone to the south. Seroja killed at least 229 people and left another 102 missing, making it the third-deadliest tropical cyclone recorded in the Australian region basin. The storm also caused over $490.7 million (2021 USD) in damages.
Member of the month (edition) β CycloneFootball71 and CodingCyclone In this edition of Hurricane Herald, we present CycloneFootball71 and CodingCyclone as the Members of the Month. Both users joined Wikipedia and WPTC in the year 2020, and they helped us navigate into a better place during the COVID-19 pandemic and during the WPTC conflicts in 2020 and 2021. Their participation lifted and maintained our spirits during the tense situations and what's happening in the world. CycloneFootball71 is the kindest WPTC member we have ever seen, actively giving out barnstars and writing out statements that can be considered as "motivational", never targeting anyone, while also making contributions to articles, and participating in talk-page discussions, and occasionally, reverting vandalism. CodingCyclone, meanwhile, gave Wiki-project Tropical Cyclones the first featured list in years, and she helps out with wording, current cyclones, and other neglected timelines, and all around is kind, and thoughtful to everyone within the Wikipedia community. She is someone who has matured to become a great, and experienced editor here. We thank her for all of her contributions, and hope she continues to keep up the great work, and kindness. Unfortunately, 2020 was not a kind year for the two of them, particularly for CycloneFootball71, as he suffered from numerous illnesses, a few injuries, the loss of a friend (offwiki) and he retired (though he came back, thankfully) numerous times; these troubles even continued into 2021. Meanwhile, CodingCyclone stayed, but she entered a semi-WikiBreak, due to real life matters she had to attend to. However, both of them are editing at full speed now, and helped us realize what 2021 should be, full of hope and a better year than 2020 was. New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically.
To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions! Thank you, JavaHurricane JavaHurricane, one of the prominent Wikipedia rollbackers since 2019, decided to quit WikiProject Tropical cyclones in April 7, 2021 after series of arguments regarding how the merger of Tropical storms Amanda and Cristobal was handled (though this was later resolved). This followed a series of events that included numerous edit wars, hostile interactions (involving both members and non-members of the Weather WikiProjects), incompetence issues, and trouble dealing with a number of serial vandals. These issues added on more and more stress to some of our members, with the botched handling of the Amanda/Cristobal merger being the last straw, which culminated in several WPTC members, especially the younger ones, to leave the project. Destroyeraa decided to fully retire from Wikipedia, but LightandDark2000 managed to get him consider rejoining WPTC after a lengthy series of off-wiki discussions, contingent upon the WikiProject improving its conduct. A MoTM of this edition, CycloneFootball71 also decided to retire, following the decision of Destroyeraa to quit WPTC, but quickly reconsidered and instead took an indefinite WikiBreak, which later became a Semi-WikiBreak. LightandDark2000 himself also considered quitting from WPTC and leaving Wikipedia entirely (since WPTC activities are his primary reason for being on Wikipedia in the first place), but he decided to stay for now (unless things continue to grow worse, in which case, a full retirement as a registered user is likely). Another MoTM, CodingCyclone, went on a semi-WikiBreak instead of quitting like some of others did. Although the worst of the turmoil seems to be over now, WPTC is still slowly recovering from the damage. However, it is clear, unfortunately, that JavaHurricane will not return to the project, due to the loss of faith and time. We hope that this will never happen again. To JavaHurricane himself: thank you. Thanks for all the edits you've made in 2020 and in 2021. You are one of the building blocks that led to the WPTC revival last year. Without you, we would have had more difficulty combating some of the LTAs we've recently dealt with. You've made plenty of quality improvements and also carried out a decent amount of anti-vandalism activities. If you ever wish to rejoin the project, you will always be welcome here. We wish you luck in your future endeavors.
From March 1 to April 30, one featured list was promoted. From the Main Page: Documents WikiProject-related materials that have appeared on the main page from March 1βApril 30, 2021 in chronological order. March 11 β Typhoon Maemi
There is an article currently nominated as featured list candidate: Article of the Month: Tropical Storm Rolf Tropical Storm Rolf, also known as Tropical Storm 01M, was an unusual Mediterranean tropical storm that brought flooding to Italy, France, Spain, and Switzerland in November 2011. Rolf originated from an extratropical system near western France on November 4. For the next few days, Rolf moved eastward into the Mediterranean Sea, before making a slow clockwise loop off the coast of France. Despite the generally unfavorable conditions in the Mediterranean Sea, Rolf transitioned into a subtropical depression on November 7, before becoming a tropical storm later that day and turning northeastward. On November 8, Rolf reached its peak intensity, with 1-minute sustained winds peaking at 85 km/h (50 mph, 45 kn) and a minimum central pressure of 991 mb (29.3 inHg). During the next day, the storm turned westward and made landfall on the island of Γle du Levant, in France, and soon afterward, near HyΓ¨res in southeastern France. Following its second landfall, Rolf quickly weakened, dissipating on November 10. Rolf was the first tropical cyclone ever to be officially monitored by the NOAA in the Mediterranean Sea. Rolf caused widespread flooding across southwestern Europe, especially in France and Italy, with the majority of the damage from the storm occurring in those two countries. Torrential rainfall from Rolf caused multiple rivers to overflow their banks in France and Italy, flooding multiple cities and resulting in extensive property damage. The storm forced numerous schools and businesses to close temporarily, and also caused significant damage to 300 farms in France. Floodwaters from Rolf's rainfall also cut the power to over 8,000 customers and necessitated thousands of rescues, in addition to forcing thousands of evacuations. The storm also caused the largest flood event seen in Gipuzkoa, in northern Spain since 1983. Rolf killed 12 people, and the storm was also the costliest Mediterranean tropical-like cyclone in the 2010s, with the storm causing at least $1.25 billion (2011 USD, β¬925 million) in damages. Current assessment table Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics.
Project Goals & Progress The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.
How to Cite Sources on Tropical Cyclone Articles, by LightandDark2000 In my years of experiences here on WPTC (and on Wikipedia, in general), I've noticed that citing sources properly is a skillset that many editors are lacking in. While a good number of the experienced editors are familiar with how to fill out citations on Wikipedia, this is something that the most of the newer editors struggle with, especially those who have never written a research paper before. Given the influx of new members in WPTC over the past year, I've decided to write a simple tutorial on how to properly complete citations in tropical cyclone articles. First of all, lets start with a standard citation template. This format will be used for the vast majority of citations on tropical cyclone articles: For our example, lets use this special "Tropical Cyclone Update" advisory for Hurricane Isaias, which was issued when the storm made landfall in North Carolina, early on August 4, 2020 (UTC time).
Once you have done all of this, your completed citation should have the following code: Which should appear as follows in the article:[1] With this tutorial, hopefully you now know how to properly cite sources within tropical cyclone articles. Properly citing sources is a crucial skill on Wikipedia. It allows you to make complete, professional references that can be accessed and reused by just about any other editor. Additionally, creating incomplete or improper citations forces other more experienced users to clean up after you, which not only wastes time, but also prevents an article from becoming a Good Article or Featured Article until these issues are completely resolved. Citing sources is an important skill and one that every experienced editor is expected to master. Citing sources takes time to learn, so don't be discouraged if you don't fully master the art at the beginning. As with everything else in life, new skills require "practice" to perfect, and as you cite more and more sources, you'll find that citing sources becomes easier and faster for you. I hope you find this guide useful in your journey on Wikipedia. May it help mold you into a superb writer, like many other experienced editors who have come before you. Best of luck, and happy editing! ~ LightandDark2000 π
Destroyeraa and the Project, by Chicdat, CodingCyclone, CycloneFootball71, MarioJump83, and LightandDark2000 Destroyeraa registered his account on Wikipedia in January 2020. He gained experience like all of us, and received several user rights in the process. He improved several articles to GA status, the first being Hurricane Dolores (2015). He made WikiProject Tropical cyclones a good place to be. He made some mistakes, of course, but learned from them quickly. But by 2021, real life seemed to be catching up to Destroyeraa. He went into periods of semi-wikibreaks. His editing became more sporadic. He has not edited since March 3, 2021. WikiProject Tropical cyclones has experienced plenty of turmoil since then, especially in late March and early April. Some users have been very hostile. There has been copyright problems. Drama is being created. With the exception of a few remarks by LightandDark2000 on-wiki, the project has not heard from him for a long time. I wish that he would come back, and I miss him. When Destroyeraa went, it seems that the short revival of WikiProject Tropical cyclones went with him as well. I came as the renewal of WPTC was beginning, so I knew no other state of the project. To Destroyeraa himself: Please come back. You made the WikiProject a good place to be. I miss you so much; you were like a real life friend. ~ π Chicdat Bawk to me! Destroyeraa was the person who invited me to the project. Like many others, his hard work and diligence made him a role model to me. Without him, I probably wouldn't be where I am today. He gave me advice when I was trying to improve Hurricane Fran (which I never completed, but would like to do as an honor to him) and helped me realize some of my earlier edits were a bit CIR-y and disruptive (albeit unintentionally). He was always unfailingly civil and helped other editors when they were down. He also created the Cyclone Cup which is actually really fun and something that I personally would never have thought of, and is helping to drive some people to create and improve more articles. To me, he was a symbol of the rebirth of WPTC. When he left, it seemed as though that age disappeared. I know that real life always takes precedence over Wikipedia, but hopefully he can figure out how to balance the two and come back soon. CodingCyclone! π π Destroyeraa has had a profound effect on the WPTC. He has been so helpful and kind throughout his time on Wikipedia, and I want to thank him for that. He has done so much for us throughout his time here, and Wikipedia has not been the same for the project since he left. He has helped me through lots, during some very difficult times, and he has been a great friend. He helped me create my first Opinion piece ever, which helped me get into editing these newsletters for the editors of this project. Despite some mistakes, he overcame these and became even better than before, and he really inspired me to improve myself in the realm of editing tropical cyclones. He did so much for this project, and me and the rest of this Wikiproject want to thank him for all that he has done. I am not sure what else to say, as Chicdat and CodingCyclone said everything that was in my mind. However, he was a great friend. Destroyeraa, you will be missed here on Wikipedia. I hope one day you may return and regain your faith in WPTC again, but for now, I only hope and wish for the absolute best for your life. Thank you again. πCycloneFootball71π |sandbox Destroyeraa brought me to speed during my initial WPTC tenure as SMB99thx, since I was not that active in my first years and also not aware of Wikipedia's changing guards, like newer users having advanced permissions so quickly, having many user scripts, very communicative on-and-off-wiki (i.e. using Discord), and so much more that I don't understand back when I first joined in WPTC. By learning from him, eventually, I did have the same advanced permissions like his up to last month, having many user-scripts, as well as using a custom theme for Wikipedia, which is not Vector, and its very cool! Without him, I may have been going into a path Chicdat is currently taking right now, as Chicdat wasn't able to stay as a page mover and a rollbacker early in his Wikipedia career, then got into several troubles which led me into adopting him. Now, I am going to give him lessons that I learned from Destroyeraa himself. Other than that, I don't have anything much to say about him, but I hope he's back again to help me once more, and bring me further growth as an editor going forward, which could potentially assist me at shepherding Chicdat into a better place. MarioJump83! The others above have pretty much captured what I would like to say, and since Destroyeraa and I have stayed in contact off-wiki, I'll make this brief. Destroyeraa was a one-of-a-kind. I've been here for 12 years now, and I have to say that I've rarely ever come across someone like him; even less so in real life. The work he has done in just one year on Wikipedia (as a registered user) is absolutely astounding; it took me 6 years for my editing to reach that level of professionalism. I have not seen anyone like him show up on WPTC since Hurricane Noah joined in 2017. He is really smart, and he is also one of the nicest people I've ever met. And he's a very good friend as well. Destroyeraa, I bet you were able to guess most of what I said here, but you should know that you're a real gem. Those of us here miss you, and there are others as well. And I did tell you that your absence would be felt, didn't I? Regardless of what you think, what you do here does and will affect us. I'm very happy that you've decided to come back this summer, once you get out of school. I hope to see you around the place then. Your friend, LightandDark2000 π |
A barnstar for you!
The Editor's Barnstar | |
Congratulations on getting Cyclone Owen to GA!!! That is a big feat, great job. πCycloneFootball71π |sandbox 23:01, 30 April 2021 (UTC) |
Thank you. It took me nearly a year, and I needed a lot of help, but at last it was done. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:04, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- I am glad it finally got done though, keep up the great work! πCycloneFootball71π |sandbox 13:55, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Why did you think I wouldn't? π Chicdat Bawk to me! 09:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree and ToBeFree (mobile): Why am I getting this? π Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- I sent a kitten when I saw Special:Diff/1021367276. No deeper meaning. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Well, thank you for the kitten. So fuzzy... π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- I sent a kitten when I saw Special:Diff/1021367276. No deeper meaning. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
in over your head
While I firmly believe anyone is welcome to give moral support and advice to blocked users, non-admins shouldn't make definitive statements as you did here especially considering you were recently banned from administrative areas, even acknowledging it moments ago and have chosen to take it upon yourself to take on a pseudo-administrative role in that discussion and subsequent AN thread. Might I suggest stepping back, because this seems unwise. Grogudicaeπ½ 12:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- I explicitly stated that I was not an administrator. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- That...was not the point. Grogudicaeπ½ 12:25, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae: The point, is that I was violating my ban. Well, if you read the first section here, you can see that my ban is over. Chicdat (talk) 12:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Chicdat - Wikipedia isn't a paint-by-numbers book, you can't just respond to a user suggesting your behaviour is inappropriate that you're colouring within the lines and that makes what you were doing okay. You were previously banned from admin areas for disruptive behaviour and due to CIR concerns - you should be seriously careful about any further action in admin areas, and you should definitely not be replicating very similar behaviour that caused the ban in the first place. There are areas on enwiki where you do good work - stick to them. -- a they/them | argue | contribs 12:35, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- I do good work in: content creation, RfDs, village pump, hurricane stuff. I'll stick to those. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:39, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I'm sorry but I didn't say that your administrative ban is over. What I meant is when you'll finish my second lesson, you may request the administrative ban repeal with my support. But even then, that is not guaranteed as you need to prove yourself that you're competent at making administrative decisions. I did some administrative decisions in the first quarter of this year and I'm backing away from it because of these stuff. But at least I have learned these lessons, and I'm planning to give these to you some time after I'm done with my job. As Alfie stated please stick what you did good in there (for me it would be content creation, fighting against some LTAs, and identifying cross-wiki abusers). MarioJump83! 05:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Fine. Once again I will treat my ban like a ban. I will continue to listen to Cabayi's advice back in August. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Chicdat - Wikipedia isn't a paint-by-numbers book, you can't just respond to a user suggesting your behaviour is inappropriate that you're colouring within the lines and that makes what you were doing okay. You were previously banned from admin areas for disruptive behaviour and due to CIR concerns - you should be seriously careful about any further action in admin areas, and you should definitely not be replicating very similar behaviour that caused the ban in the first place. There are areas on enwiki where you do good work - stick to them. -- a they/them | argue | contribs 12:35, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae: The point, is that I was violating my ban. Well, if you read the first section here, you can see that my ban is over. Chicdat (talk) 12:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- That...was not the point. Grogudicaeπ½ 12:25, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Poultry task force talk templates
Iβve been on a bit of a break, and it seems that Wikiproject Poultry has been brought under the wing of WP Birds as a task force. Thatβs all fine, but Iβm seeing some problems with how it was done. I see many articles talk pages with two {{WikiProject Birds}} templates, neither of which include the Poultry Task Force flag. Many also seem to have lost other parameters, such as image requests. Do you know what happened, and how we can fix this? --awkwafaba (π₯) 15:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Awkwafaba: I redirected Template:WikiProject Poultry to Template:WikiProject Birds. Someone with AWB access should fix this (not me). π Chicdat Bawk to me! 09:55, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Changed. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:07, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat: Thank you for updating your signature. However, I was careless. Your previous signature had two nonbreaking spaces, which I copied, but I did not escape them in the display markup of the signature itself, so they displayed as ordinary spaces. The first nonbreaking space was between the contributions link and the user link. The second nonbreaking space was after the user link, but followed by a space, so it had the effect of putting two spaces between the user link and the talk page link. With the nonbreaking space converted to an ordinary space, the two spaces display as one space, and you can see that the display space between the user link and the talk page link is less. You are welcome to keep your signature as it is, but if you want to restore the nonbreaking spaces, change it to:
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- βAnomalocaris (talk) 06:20, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. I've re-added the nbsp to my signature. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat: Thank you for updating your signature. However, I was careless. Your previous signature had two nonbreaking spaces, which I copied, but I did not escape them in the display markup of the signature itself, so they displayed as ordinary spaces. The first nonbreaking space was between the contributions link and the user link. The second nonbreaking space was after the user link, but followed by a space, so it had the effect of putting two spaces between the user link and the talk page link. With the nonbreaking space converted to an ordinary space, the two spaces display as one space, and you can see that the display space between the user link and the talk page link is less. You are welcome to keep your signature as it is, but if you want to restore the nonbreaking spaces, change it to:
Just so you know, I've reverted your retargeting of WP:OUT. This shortcut was used in Template:Uw-spamublock for 7 years and as such has over 31,000 backlinks. I would suggest taking it to WP:RFD if you want to see if the community would support retargeting. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 18:33, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- I understand. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
May 2021
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. NoahTalk 20:35, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Improper Move Request closures
Please do not perform another improper Move Closure, as you did at the article for Cyclone Friedhelm/Hurricane Bawbag. That was clearly against Wikipedia policy, and now, it will probably have to go through a move review and be re-opened. Please do not ever close a discussion that is currently in progress, unless it is a clear snow case or completely pointless. And no, moving to a third or a fourth unpopular option as a "compromise" is not acceptable. Consensus has yet to be fully determined (it was actually in favor of Cyclone Friedhelm, but it could have swung back to Hurricane Bawbag). Personally, I think that you should stay out of all administrative areas for the foreseeable future, outside of combatting obvious vandals/sockmasters and closing clear WP:SNOW discussions. You clearly aren't ready to get yourself involved in administrative activities right now. If you continue screwing up like this, you will probably end up in serious trouble. So for your own good, I think that you should avoid almost all administrative activities for the time being. LightandDark2000 π (talk)
- @MarioJump83: I think you should define the limits of Chicdat's informal adminspace ban more clearly, since we're still seeing issues here. LightandDark2000 π (talk) 20:25, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- I have brought this to a move review as I don't feel comfortable with your closing of this contentious move request.Jason Rees (talk) 02:19, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, Chic, you are free to make your own opinions and comments about i.e. AfDs and merger requests, but please don't do anything that involve administrative actions, i.e. closing a move/merger requests (including SNOW closes to prevent urges of more administrative involvement), closing an XfD discussion, making RfC/WikiProject decisions or CSD tagging. Note that AfC reviewing, AWB-like actions (adding short descriptions), and requesting changes/XfDs (i.e. retargeting redirects, as long as it is done correctly) aren't considered to be administrative actions. MarioJump83! 03:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- @MarioJump83: How can I not get blocked? Since you are my mentor, you should be able to answer this question. (To provide some context, I once asked Jason Rees a similar question. He replied, "It will come with experience." But I've been here for a year. Isn't that experience?) π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:49, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat - take a look back at the last year, have you learnt anything? Jason Rees (talk) 14:17, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- I have; I no longer relist or close XfDs; I no longer strike inappropriate !votes at RfA; I wish I could say I didn't involve myself with blocks; I will keep learning. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:54, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat - take a look back at the last year, have you learnt anything? Jason Rees (talk) 14:17, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- @MarioJump83: How can I not get blocked? Since you are my mentor, you should be able to answer this question. (To provide some context, I once asked Jason Rees a similar question. He replied, "It will come with experience." But I've been here for a year. Isn't that experience?) π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:49, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Chicdat, why did you close the move request at List of off-season Pacific hurricanes? Only 4 people voted, and there are many, many more people at WPTC, the consensus could have changed by a lot. Please do not do this again. ~~ πππ²π π²πΎππΎπ½π°π 13:57, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Super Cyclonic Storm Corona: I couldn't even if I wanted to; I'm banned from closing discussions. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:51, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Ana
Hi Chicdat, Just to let you know I have restored the redirect for Tropical Storm Ana (2021) to List of storms named Ana, as the name Ana has already been used for a tropical cyclone this year in the South Pacific, which are also referred to as tropical storms at various times. As a result, I feel that the redirect to List of storms named Ana is more accurate than pointing it towards the 2021 Atlantic hurricane season.Jason Rees (talk) 12:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Jason Rees: Thank you. I was not aware of that fact. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Pending changes reviewer granted
Hello. Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.
Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.
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- Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.
Mz7 (talk) 22:05, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Like +1! Nice, congrats on getting PCR! πCycloneFootball71π |sandbox 22:08, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! I've already started reviewing a few pages, and I hope to keep down that backlog. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Awesome, glad to hear that it is working well for you. keep up the great work! πCycloneFootball71π |sandbox 11:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Some editors have been putting together a Wikipedia:Tips for pending changes reviewers page. As you start reviewing pending changes, if you encounter situations where you feel it would be helpful to have tips from other reviewers, add to the page or bring it up on its Talk. Happy reviewing! Schazjmd (talk) 17:30, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Congrats! ~~ πππ²π π²πΎππΎπ½π°π 12:54, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Congratulations on being in the top 3 most active pending changes reviewers in the last 30 days. Great job. βNovem Linguae (talk) 07:50, 8 June 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you! That's my first barnstar in weeks. π³οΈβπ Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:02, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Please don't be embarrassed
I'm referring to your edit summary here. If you have changed your opinion as a result of the replies then it's fine to withdraw a statement for that reason, but there's nothing embarrassing about having a different opinion from others. Please engage in the discussion if you think that your initial opinion was valid. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:55, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, those replies were more valid than my !vote, so.... π³οΈβπ Chicdat Bawk to me! 09:52, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Your revert on My Hero Academia (season 5)
The information was not unsourced. There is a source at the top of the table with the information, which is a common citation method for shows that are currently airing weekly. Please remember this for future note. Link20XX (talk) 22:49, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- I understand. π³οΈβπ Chicdat Bawk to me! 09:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Some recent problematic edits
It has been brought to my attention that you've carried out some more problematic edits recently. First of all, your WPTC invitation to CycloneEditor was much too early. We usually don't invite accounts with that little editing history, especially accounts that are not even a day old! Please refrain from making further invitations until you're ready for more adminspace edits. We have another active editors who are capable of handing invitations. Also, you are violating your informal adminspace ban again. One recent example is your revert on My Hero Academia (season 5). That shouldn't have been done. You definitely shouldn't be reverting any edits outside of clear, obvious vandalism and obvious socking for the foreseeable future. I shouldn't have to remind you that continued violations of your informal ban can lead to more serious consequences, including a formalization of the ban at a minimum, as well as sanctions (as an example). Please stay out of adminspace and administrative edits in general. Thank you. LightandDark2000 π (talk) 14:54, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- @LightandDark2000: I apologi(z/s)e for the Cyclone Editor invitation, I wasn't considering the fact that he/she had one day of experience. As for the My Hero Academia (season 5) revert, I was using my pending changes reviewer rights. I've made an exception in my ban for that. I guess this is my
final/only warning
that I mentioned above. I'll brace myself for a block now.
- Once again, I am sorry for the welcoming and the bad revert. π³οΈβπ Chicdat Bawk to me! 09:58, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Look, this, which I just reverted, is clear, obvious vandalism. π³οΈβπ Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:48, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I think that @LightandDark2000: is over reacting to stuff here. The My Hero Season 5 stuff was resolved and isnt really any of his business to chase you up on while the invite thing is just nonsense since anyone can be invited to join WPTC. Jason Rees (talk) 16:40, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Jason Rees. π³οΈβπ Chicdat Bawk to me! 09:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | |
I want to thank you, foremost, for the kind messages on my talk page and for that op-ed of yours. Secondly, I want to congratulate you for getting the PCR right. Keep up the good work. Destroyer (Alternate account) 17:03, 24 June 2021 (UTC) |
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We had previously discussed the creation of an archive at WP:RFPP. While I see the ban above and don't expect you to reply, I wanted to notify you that, yes, finally an archive exists.
If I understand the situation correctly, the best response is to remove this message without an answer. I hope it made you happy anyway. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:24, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree: Oh, I can discuss the ban, of course. So, thank you. I never liked that rolling archive much anyway. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:00, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for participating in my RFA
Your trust and support are important to me. I very much hope you call if you see I'm out of line or if you need help. You are at least 222 times more important on Wikipedia than you think. BusterD (talk) 18:23, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Thank you. And yes, I will call. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 09:54, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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Fyi, I reverted your revert again, because you obviously didn't notice my sourced addition to the list of Marcel Meys! Extremely sexy (talk) 20:45, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm sorry! All I noticed was the addition of 112+, which is unencyclopedic. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:34, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Kane Tanaka
Hello, how are you, why you not like the colour picture?
- Consensus has been formed on Talk:Kane Tanaka to not use the color picture. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:44, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Valentine Ligny
I see that you have nominated Lucile Randon's article for deletion, of which I totally agree, but would it be possible that you do the same for Valentine Ligny? I tried a couple of weeks ago but was denied very quickly, even if she is less notable than Randon! I'm a little bit apprehensive to start the process with my cell phone and won't have computer access for a while. Regards, MattSucci (talk) 04:08, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- I can see the discussion, but the difference is that it isn't a real AfD, and plain discussions tend to fizzle out without action. I don't usually accept requests like this (my archives show people bugging me to create articles for them), but this is an exceptional case. Yes, I will nominate Ligny for deletion. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:21, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I am very grateful that you will take time out of your day to do this. Regards, MattSucci (talk) 10:45, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- You are very welcome. The discussion is currently at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valentine Ligny. Please do not participate, as doing so would be canvassing. --π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:53, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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48th issue of Hurricane Herald newsletter
The Hurricane Herald: 2020 Tokyo Summer Olympics Special Edition!
The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue your subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project-related events from May 1βSeptember 3, 2021. This edition's editors and authors are LightandDark2000, MarioJump83, HurricaneParrot, CodingCyclone, CycloneFootball71, HurricaneCovid, HurricaneEdgar, Jason Rees, and Destroyeraa (the MoTM for this issue). Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments
New articles since the last newsletter include:
New GA's include: Member of the month (Editor's Pick) β Nova Crystallis and Supportstorm In this edition of Hurricane Herald, I (MarioJump83, one of the Hurricane Herald editors) am going to award Nova Crystallis and Supportstorm with my pick. Both of them are second-generation of WPTC members who joined Wikipedia in 2011 and 2014, respectively. Their most notable work were off-wiki: Nova Crystallis created the WPTC Discord server in August 2018, an idea of Hurricane Noah's, and has since then administered the server to this day, including several server cleanups on the occasions of server disruptions. Supportstorm, meanwhile, is one of the most prolific track creator in all of WPTC, which led some WPTC members (Janm 7 in particular) to ask him for tracks, and as of now, he's actively converting track images from JPG into PNG versions, including the creation of tropical cyclones by year tracks. However, their on-wiki work deserve appreciation as well, since Nova Crystallis has created numerous GA-class WPAC pre-1980 typhoon articles pre-1980, in addition to actively creating GAs for WikiProject U.S. Roads, while Supportstorm takes their time to add their tracks into the articles once they're done and was once assisted in the creation of 1960s North Indian Ocean cyclone season articles back in 2013.
As we entered the summer and the start of the Northern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons, several users wrote new articles for the FT project and brought several to GA status.
If you are interested in writing new articles, promoting articles to GA, or helping with the FAC review process for the Global 2018 FT project, please reach out to Hurricane Noah, LightandDark2000, or any other member of the 2018 FT task force. WikiProject To-Do
Current assessment table As of this issue, there are 161 featured articles and 80 featured lists. There are 3 A-class articles, and 1129 good articles. There are only 169 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 654 C-class articles, 817 start-class articles, and 145 stub-class articles, with 1102 lists, and 0 current articles. These figures mean that slightly more than half of the project is rated a GA or better. Typhoon Warren was the 1000th GA in the project. Project Goals & Progress The following is the current progress on the four milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.
Storm of the month and other tropical activity for May, June, July, and August SoTM for May: Cyclone Tauktae Tauktae originated from a tropical disturbance, which was first monitored by the India Meteorological Department on May 13. The disturbance drifted eastward and organized into a deep depression by May 14. The storm soon took a northward turn, continuing to gradually intensify, and the system strengthened into a cyclonic storm and was named Tauktae later that same day. Tauktae continued intensifying into May 15, reaching severe cyclonic storm status later that day. Tauktae began to parallel the coast of the Indian states of Kerala, Karnataka, Goa and Maharashtra, before rapidly intensifying into a very severe cyclonic storm, early on May 16. Early on May 17, Tauktae intensified into an extremely severe cyclonic storm, reaching its peak intensity soon afterward. Later that same day, Tauktae underwent an eyewall replacement cycle and weakened, before restrengthening as it neared the coast of Gujarat, making landfall soon afterward. After making landfall, Tauktae gradually weakened as it turned northeastward, moving further inland. On May 19, Tauktae weakened into a well-marked low-pressure area. Tauktae brought heavy rainfall and flash floods to areas along the coast of Kerala and on Lakshadweep. There were reports of heavy rain in the states of Goa, Karnataka and Maharashtra as well. Tauktae resulted in at least 169 deaths in India, and left another 81 people missing. There were also 5 deaths reported in Pakistan. The storm displaced over 200,000 people in Gujarat. The cyclone also caused widespread infrastructure and agricultural damage to the western coast of India. SoTM for June: Tropical Storm Claudette (2021) Claudette originated from a broad trough of low pressure over the Bay of Campeche on June 12, which moved erratically over the region for the next several days. Moving northward with little development due to unfavorable upper-level winds and land interaction, the National Hurricane Center (NHC) initiated advisories on it as a Potential Tropical Cyclone late on June 17, due to its imminent threat to land. The disturbance finally organized into Tropical Storm Claudette at 09:00 UTC on June 19 as it was over southeast Louisiana. Claudette weakened to a depression as it turned east-northeastward before moving through Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina. Baroclinic forcing then caused Claudette to reintensify into a tropical storm over North Carolina early on June 21 before it accelerated into the Atlantic Ocean later that day. Soon afterward, it degenerated into a low-pressure trough on the same day, before being absorbed into another extratropical cyclone on the next day. Claudette produced gusty winds, flash flooding, and tornadoes across much of the Southeastern United States. Claudette overall caused minor impacts along the Gulf of Campecheβs coastline due to the system stalling in the region as an Invest and a Potential Tropical Cyclone. Impacts were most severe in Alabama and Mississippi, where heavy rains caused flash flooding. Several tornadoes in the states also caused severe damage, including an EF2 tornado that damaged a school and destroyed parts of a mobile home park in East Brewton, Alabama, injuring 20 people. At least 14 people died in Alabama due to the storm. Total economic losses across the United States exceeded $350 million. SoTM for July: Typhoon In-fa In-fa was first noted by the JTWC as an area of low pressure, located east of the Philippines on July 14. Favorable conditions helped the storm to intensify, becoming a tropical depression, two days later and a tropical storm on July 17, being assigned the name In-fa by the Japan Meteorological Agency. Located in a weak steering environment, the system struggled to organize under dry air and moderate wind shear before organizing further. It continued to move mostly westward, strengthening into a typhoon and deepening quickly. The storm struggled to organize itself significantly due to continuous dry air intrusions and its frequent motion changes. On July 21, it reached its peak intensity, with maximum 1-minute sustained winds of 175 km/h (110 mph), and 10-minute sustained winds of 150 km/h (90 mph) on the system. Nevertheless, the system reached its minimum barometric pressure of 950 hPa (28.05 inHg), three days later, after passing through the Ryukyu Islands. As it entered the East China Sea, marginal conditions started to take their toll on the system, with In-fa weakening steadily and slowly, until it made its consecutive landfalls over Putuo District of Zhoushan and Pinghu on July 25 and 26, respectively, as a tropical storm. For the next couple of days, the storm slowly moved inland while gradually weakening, before turning northward on July 29. Later that day, In-fa weakened into a remnant low over northern China. The remnants continued their northward trek for another couple of days, before dissipating near North Korea on July 31. Typhoon In-fa exacerbated and played a part in starting the 2021 Henan floods, a flooding event that killed at least 302 people and dealt upwards of 82 billion yuan (US$12.7 billion) in damage, while leaving at least 50 people missing. The typhoon itself killed 6 people and caused at least $2 billion in damages.
Member of the month (edition) β Destroyeraa Destroyeraa joined Wikipedia as an IP editor in 2018. His edits back then were sparse, mostly involving correcting typos and grammar articles in articles that he read. In 2019, he began editing more often, and he started editing articles on weather, especially those on storms in the 2019 Atlantic hurricane season. Although he contributed to those articles, his edits appeared to go unnoticed. On January 17, 2020 (January 18, UTC time), Destroyeraa created his user account on Wikipedia. In May of that year, he joined WPTC, though no one welcomed him for a month. Around this time, he co-created his first article, Tropical Storm Bertha (2020). He also began contributing larger amounts of contents to articles, in addition to creating new ones. In July 2020, Destroyeraa created an article for Hurricane Dolores (2015), which became his first GA later that month. By this time, he had become a regular WPTC editor and a key contributor, often updating the articles for various storms, such as Hurricane Isaias. As time went on, Destroyeraa contributed more content and built up his accomplishments. In October, he got Dolores's article posted to the Did You Know? section on the Main Page, and he got more articles promoted to GA status as well. He also started engaging in anti-vandalism activities, combatting multiple vandals and even some LTAs. However, he was blocked for a week for engaging in sockpuppetry. Nevertheless, after his block, Destroyeraa resumed contributing to various articles, and he also helped out with the workings of WPTC. In January 2021, Destroyeraa created the Cyclone Cup, a fun competition based on the WikiCup for WikiProject Weather users to participate in, in order to help encourage more article creation and the improvement of article quality. However, by March 2021, his school work caught up with him, and he was forced to take a WikiBreak for the next few months. In early April, Destroyeraa made the decision to retire from Wikipedia, due to a recent spate of drama and negative behavior on WPTC; however, after some off-wiki persuasion, he was persuaded to change his mind. In June 2021, Destroyeraa officially returned to WPTC. While he was a lot more inactive, largely due to summer assignments and real-life activities, he still contributed to Wikipedia from time to time. As of the publication of this newsletter, Destroyeraa has created 24 articles and brought five articles to GA status. He has become one of the most accomplished WPTC users who joined post-2020, and he plans on continuing his work in the future. We wish him the best of luck in his future on Wikipedia and in his studies at school, and we hope to continue seeing him around here. New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically.
To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions! Thank you, TropicalAnalystwx13, MarioJump83, DachshundLover82, and Cyclone Toby TropicalAnalystwx13 left Wikipedia in September 2020 without notice. He was one of the most prominent content contributors within the past decade, and he also welcomed some of the other users when they joined. Within the past few months, MarioJump83 went into semi-retirement, and both DachshundLover82 (previously known as Robloxsupersuperhappyface) and Cyclone Toby decided to fully retire from Wikipedia. These users made their decisions after suffering from a lack of interest in editing, a variety of real-life issues (including health issues for DachshundLover82), and also a lack of time. MarioJump83 was an invaluable editor who had made many edits and written multiple aritcles and GAs, and they also brought new users to WPTC, in addition to mentoring Chicdat. DachshundLover82 and Cyclone Toby were both seasoned article writers, having authored multiple articles and even promoting some articles to GA status. Each of these users were MoTM picks in recent issues of The Hurricane Herald. We wish them the best in life and hope to see them again someday.
From May 1 to September 3, a featured list, a featured article, and a featured topic were promoted: From the Main Page: Documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from May 1βSeptember 3, 2021 in chronological order.
There is an article currently nominated for featured article status: Article of the Month: 2018 Pacific hurricane season The 2018 Pacific hurricane season was one of the most active Pacific hurricane seasons on record, producing the highest accumulated cyclone energy value on record in the basin. The season saw 26 tropical cyclones, 23 named storms β the fourth-highest value recorded, tied with 1982, 13 hurricanes, and 10 major hurricanes, in addition to one unofficial subtropical storm. The season also featured eight landfalls, six of which occurred in Mexico. The season officially began on May 15 in the Eastern Pacific, and on June 1 in the Central Pacific; they both ended on November 30. These dates conventionally delimit the period of each year when most tropical cyclones form in the Pacific basin. However, tropical cyclone formation is possible at any time of the year, as illustrated when the first tropical depression formed on May 10, five days prior to the official start of the season. The accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) index for the 2018 Pacific hurricane season was around 316 units. Broadly speaking, ACE is a measure of the power of a tropical or subtropical storm multiplied by the length of time it existed. Therefore, a stronger storm with a longer duration contributes more to the seasonal total than several short-lived, weaker storms combined. 2018 had the highest total ACE of any Pacific hurricane season on record, having surpassed the 1992 Pacific hurricane season. Tropical Cyclone Anniversary: August 29, 2005 β Hurricane Katrina On Monday, August 29, 2005, at 6:10 a.m. CDT (11:10 UTC), Hurricane Katrina made landfall on Buras-Triumph, Louisiana, before making another landfall near the LouisianaβMississippi border, a few hours later. The storm made landfall as a powerful high-end Category 3 hurricane, with maximum 1-minute sustained winds of 125 miles per hour (201 km/h) and a central pressure of 920 millibars (27 inches of mercury). The storm had weakened from its peak as a Category 5 hurricane, due to an eyewall replacement cycle. Katrina caused the levee system in New Orleans to fail, flooding the city, and causing enormous amounts of destruction. The floods also ended up killing many residents of the city. In all, Katrina killed 1,836 people and caused an estimated $125 billion (2005 USD) in damages, making the storm the costliest hurricane on record in the United States and also worldwide (tied with Hurricane Harvey, without factoring in inflation), and also making the storm one of the deadliest hurricanes to strike the United States in the 21st century. My Experience on Wikipedia, by LightandDark2000 I joined Wikipedia as an IP editor on May 1, 2009 (May 2, if you go by UTC time). Although a couple of users encouraged me to make an account early on, I decided to continue editing articles from my IPs for the next few years. I just felt that I wasn't ready for a user account yet. In 2010β11, I experienced hounding from another user on some TV show articles, which made me withdraw from those articles for a while and briefly consider quitting Wikipedia. I registered my user account in May 2012, but I spent another year on Wikipedia as an IP editor, before fully transitioning over to my account in the summer of 2013. I also created my first articles in 2012. I pretty much grew used to using my account and decided to stick with it. :) In March 2014, I received an invitation to join WPTC, which I obviously accepted. I had considered myself a member of WPTC since 2012, but I didn't really know about WikiProjects, much less how to join them (otherwise, I would've joined much earlier). Since 2010, I had regularly contributed to articles. While I didn't have a solid grasp of how to cite sources at the time, I managed to contribute a good a mount of content, in addition to cleaning up spelling and grammar errors. As time went on, my article-writing skills improved, and so did my knowledge of Wikipedia policies. I will admit: I did have difficulty at times, and my temper got me into trouble from time to time. However, these mistakes made me more determined to better myself, and avoid the same missteps in the future. I also engaged in anti-vandalism activities quite often, which brought me into conflict with IPhonehurricane95 and his copycap, Lightning Sabre, whom can be considered the two most vicious LTAs that WPTC has had to deal with. In late 2014βearly 2017, I largely moved out of WPTC into MILHIST, due to my interest in the recent conflicts involving the terrorist organization ISIL in the Middle East. I contributed a lot to those articles, though I still contributed to tropical cyclone and other weather articles from time to time. I had made some friends on-wiki by this point, including Master of Time and EkoGraf. In early April 2016, a small number of users were fed up with some of my edits and decided to launch a witchhunt in order to get me topic banned (or even completely banned, for some). While the case was eventually dropped, it was very disturbing to me and made me consider permanently retiring from Wikipedia. In August 2016, the combination of college work and stress led me to take a 3-month WikiBreak. I pulled a full exit and considered never coming back. However, I enjoyed contributing to Wikipedia too much (hehe), and during my winter break, I returned and resumed editing. In 2017, my editing activity gradually ramped up, and in September 2017, I returned to WPTC, following the devastating landfall of Hurricane Harvey in Texas. During my time in MILHIST, my citation skills had greatly improved. Once again, I regularly contributed to tropical cyclone articles, as well as articles on other storms and natural disasters, which I greatly enjoyed. I also observed the peak of the hyperactive 2017 Atlantic hurricane season, including the devastating landfalls of Hurricanes Irma and Maria. However, as I had noted before in some previous Op-Eds and elsewhere, I noticed that WPTC had stagnated, and had serious manpower issues. As we remained a rather small WikiProject for a while, it grew a little depressing at times. In December 2017, a combination of poor habits and overworking myself took its toll on my health and I suffered a severe burnout, and I was forced to leave Wikipedia until late January 2018 (a mistake I intend never to repeat). In 2017 through 2019, WPTC's membership slowly grew in size, a few of whom became very accomplished article-writers over time, and I met Hurricane Noah and others. I eventually acquired a number of user rights in order to help with my work on Wikipedia, including Pending Changes Reviewer, Rollbacker, and Page Mover. I continued tracking tropical cyclones and regularly contributing to those articles through the summer of 2019. However, in September 2019, I took an extended series of WikiBreaks through mid-2020, due to college work and real-life activities. In 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic went global, and lockdowns ensued. During this time, WPTC began seeing an explosion of new editors, though I remained inactive on-wiki for another several months and missed out the first part of this growth (much to my regret). In July 2020, I finally returned to Wikipedia, during the appearance of Comet NEOWISE and the impending landfall of Hurricane Isaias. Through the remainder of the year, I gradually increased my contributions, though I had to cut back on my editing activity until December, due to college. During this period, I met some of our new WPTC members, including Destroyeraa, HurricaneCovid, CodingCyclone, CycloneFootball71, and AC5230, and I made new friends, growing extremely close to some of them. I became more involved in WPTC's work, and I also helped out some of my fellow users when they needed it. In January 2021, I joined Destroyeraa's Cyclone Cup, a competition he made based on Wikipedia's WikiCup. In the past several months, I've witnessed and experienced several tumultuous episodes on WPTC, but I toughed them out. I continued contributing to various articles during this time, and I also got my first GA, Tropical Storm Rolf, with assistance from Destroyeraa. (Yeah, I didn't have the confidence to attempt a GA before then, even though I probably had the skills to do so since 2017.) In the summer of 2021, my activities began to wane once again, as I turned my attention more towards real-life activities, taking a break, and preparing for the upcoming school year. As of this writing, I am currently in college classes once again. I probably won't remain a regular editor for more than a year (since I will be searching for employment by then) and I will likely be forced into permanent Semi-Retirement then, but truly I appreciate my time here. I've created at least 26 articles and I have 3 GAs, and I'm looking forward to more content creation in the near future. In closing, I'd like to thank my fellow editors for everything. When I first joined, I was unaware of the existence of this WikiProject (much less WikiProjects in general). I've had a rough start, but I've grown a lot during my time here, both as a writer and as a person. (I have to say, my time editing on Wikipedia really improved my writing and typing skills, which really helped me in school.) I've also made some good friends here. WPTC was also kind enough of a WikiProject for me to feel comfortable retreating to during times of trouble. I've experienced a lot here during my 12 years on Wikipedia, and looking back on it, it was worthwhile. Thank you all for everything, ~ LightandDark2000 π (talk) My experience on Wikipedia, by codingcyclone I first joined Wikipedia on May 15, 2020. It's been over a year since then, and I've definitely learned a lot and will continue to learn more about contributing here. When I first joined, I never thought that I would be where I am today. To those who have given me advice and support, and been all around lovely people throughout my journey here (you know who you are), to name a few, hehe, your generosity means a lot to me. You have seen me at my best and at my worst, and you've been there for me through it all. You're all very sweet. codingcyclone advisories/damages 05:59, 26 June 2021 (UTC) To start off, my wikistory isn't all that interesting, and I'm not as experienced or accomplished as the other members of WPTC, but I've been wanting to write an opinion piece, so here we go. I made my first edit the day I joined. I didn't understand the concept of WP:BOLD, so my first few edits were to talk pages to discuss what to do. I also did not know how to sign my posts. LOL. I was a bit naΓ―ve, and in retrospect, I did some stuff prematurely. Luckily, I never did anything that was too damaging to the encyclopedia at this stage. At this point, my 'better' edits were mainly typo correcting, and copyediting. My activity was sparse due to IRL stuff from May to September 2020, but by October 2020, I had found out about Twinkle, and was making more edits, mostly to revert vandalism. This led to a minor dispute with an IP after I reverted their edit, which, to me, looked like blanking. I was wrong in classifying it as vandalism, and I violated WP:DEADHORSE when replying a month later. I do think that both the IP and I were wrong in some respects, but they were certainly more experienced than me, and I was definitely mistaken in trying to continue the argument. I continued to fix typos and revert vandalism, until I saw all the neglected tropical cyclone season timelines on Wikipedia, and I started to fix them. I created Timeline of the 2013 North Indian Ocean cyclone season (very incomplete still, I'll get to it soonβ’) and brought Timeline of the 2019 Atlantic hurricane season to FLC (still needs a bit of work, though), leading to its promotion and my first little bronze star. I did my first GAR and helped out with the GANs of Tropical Storm Fay (2020) and Hurricane Paulette. I also helped start off 2021's Atlantic and Eastern Pacific timelines, and actually guided a new editor a bit. As of this edition's release, I'm helping the 2018 FT with timelines for the Southern Hemisphere. My activity is starting to lessen, since I'm going to be kind of busy IRL and I'm trying to manage my life more efficiently and other personal stuff, but I won't forget about Wikipedia. I'll always be here, fixing the timelines up. Semi-retirement, by MarioJump83 Hi! MarioJump83 here. You know by this point that I'm semi-retired, and you can see the farewell message above by fellow members. I won't give much clarification on why I have semi-retired in this newsletter, but I'm not fully gone just yet. As I am making this piece, I have removed the DachshundLover82 farewell message which I made by myself as they are strongly reconsidering retirement and became much more active recently, as well as changing some of my farewell message, but as you can tell from these, retirement isn't a sure thing. You can still edit anywhere at any time. I've got plans to work on Wikipedia in my semi-retirement like Cyclone Cup stuff and Spoken Wikipedia but here's a catch with a little bit of clarification (that's why I said "I won't give much" - that means I still give some clarification eventually): I feel much more restricted than I have ever was since I got my laptop on September 2020 (which led to the peak of my activity next month). I tried to sleep by day and night, but my sleep attempts keep getting disturbed thus leading to lack of sleep. And many more I won't tell for now - there's a lot more than this, but it is more private. I'll can give more about why I semi-retired, but only on WPTC IRC or contact me directly on Discord (you can search SMB99thx on WPTC Discord). By the way, this will be my final OP on Hurricane Herald, but probably not the final edit on Hurricane Herald yet. Thanks for giving me support, though, for helping me cope through mental stresses for all this time, which my family didn't give much thought about it, if not truly helping at all, since they are all about their business, AND as well as trying to get me regain interest on Wikipedia, but I don't feel like I'm going to come back on full speed this year. Not sure about next year, though. Tropical cyclone infobox images, by LightandDark2000 In 2016β2018, WPTC experienced a serious of vicious edit wars involving the main infobox image on numerous tropical cyclone articles, the most vicious of which was the Hurricane Ophelia (2017) image war. Most of them were visible satellite images Vs. Infrared satellite (IR) images that were slightly closer to the peak. This series of edit wars affected numerous articles, and they continued until the edit-warriors either stopped with their attempts at changing images or ended up getting blocked (most of those blocked were IPs who continued the edit wars). In August 2020βAugust 2021, a new series of edit-wars erupted over tropical cyclone infobox images once again. The largest of these newer wars was one that involved Hurricane Delta's infobox image. While many of those conflicts involved the same issue of visible satellite image Vs. IR images seen in the 2016β2018 edit wars, the newer wars also included competing visible satellite images that editors thought looked better than the original, for one reason or another. I have seen these edit wars affect multiple articles (though not as many as the older wars from a few years ago), but after all this warring, multiple WPTC users have grown fed up with it, including me. After various discussions on- and off-wiki, as a project, we have successfully moved more towards discussions first instead of edit-warring, though image-warring still crops up occasionally. First of all, I will say this to those who have participated in the image wars, and those who are inclined to do so in the future: knock it off. Consider this your only warning: If you have image-warred and you have been told to stop, if you do it again, there will be consequences. It does not matter who "started it" or who was "wrong". Edit-warring, especially image wars, are completely unacceptable. Not only are they unacceptable, but they are extremely stupid. WPTC has a set of image policies that dictate what kinds of images should be used in the infoboxes of tropical cyclone articles. While there is some wiggle room for interpretation, these guidelines should be followed regarding the infobox images. You can see the linked page for the image policies themselves, but I will list the most important points here:
Please consider these guidelines in the future regarding tropical cyclone images and any changes made to them. Editing on Wikipedia should not be stressful or filled with conflict. Instead, editing should be productive, and even enjoyable. We should all keep a level head and take a mature approach in all matters. Hopefully, together, we can make these image wars a thing of the past. ~ LightandDark2000 π (talk) |
Unnecessary edits.
That Bart's editing is becoming tiresome! MattSucci (talk) 13:39, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- The more recent comments there suggest he's stopped it. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:41, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
- So it would appear. Let's see if it stays that way. Regards, MattSucci (talk) 13:43, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks so much for participating in Phase 1 of the RfA 2021 review. 8 out of the 21 issues discussed were found to have consensus. Thanks to our closers of Phase 1, Primefac and Wugapodes.
The following had consensus support of participating editors:
- Corrosive RfA atmosphere
- The atmosphere at RfA is deeply unpleasant. This makes it so fewer candidates wish to run and also means that some members of our community don't comment/vote.
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- "No need for the tools" is a poor reason as we can find work for new admins
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- Lifetime tenure (high stakes atmosphere)
Because RfA carries with it lifetime tenure, granting any given editor sysop feels incredibly important. This creates a risk adverse and high stakes atmosphere. - Admin permissions and unbundling
There is a large gap between the permissions an editor can obtain and the admin toolset. This brings increased scrutiny for RFA candidates, as editors evaluate their feasibility in lots of areas. - RfA should not be the only road to adminship
Right now, RfA is the only way we can get new admins, but it doesn't have to be.
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Jules ThΓ©obald
Any chance of nominating him for AFD too? MattSucci (talk) 17:05, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
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AFD
DB is really getting on my nerves as well. Not only does he nominate everything under the sun for deletion, he'll badger anyone who votes against him. Drives me nuts. Bkatcher (talk) 12:35, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Bkatcher: Agreed. When I left DB a message on the 19th, he accused me of "bludgeoning the process." This was an utter lie, it being him doing so. What do you suppose we do? π Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:38, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- I've been talking to a lot of users about his attitude. He's also a tattler, so if you'd like to e-mail me at bjkatcher@hotmail.com I'd love to discuss this further. Bkatcher (talk) 13:01, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Bkatcher Or maybe you could resolve this on-wiki by taking it to admins noticeboard:incidents instead of complaining about me behind my back, which is uncivil and unproductive behavior that just makes it harder for me to interact with you in a neutral manner. Iβve tried to, as you put it, βvirtually bury the hatchetβ with you, but youβre not making it easy. Dronebogus (talk) 09:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Bkatcher: Yes, for once, I agree with Dronebogus. Please start a discussion on ANI. For your information, a) I don't use e-mail, for private reasons; b) Despite all my success at AfD, I am banned from ANI (#Voluntary restriction; also the discussions leading up to that; it's an interesting read). I expect a quick WP:BLUDGEON block on his part. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:30, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Chicdat @Bkatcher Iβll try to stop βbludgeoningβ if you two (particularly you, bkatcher) will try to stop complaining about me behind my back. Iβd rather not go to ANI and just repeat that Iβll stop bludgeoning again largely because you appear want to see me get me kicked out for getting on your nerves. Dronebogus (talk) 10:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- All right. If you stop, I will stop. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, chicdat. Bkatcher, I sincerely hope you will stop going around trying to βprivatelyβ tell other users how much I suck, itβs getting old. Dronebogus (talk) 10:46, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Who was talking about you, Dronebogus? I was referring to notorious 1970s Skyjacker D.B. Cooper. Paranoid much? I'm not the one lurking around other people's user pages to see if my initials happen to show up. Bkatcher (talk) 12:47, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Bkatcher Uh-huh, and Iβm actually D.B. Cooper. (Sarcasm) Dronebogus (talk) 12:52, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Pretty sure DB Cooper never edited Wikipedia, and certainly not in a completely coincidentally similar manner to me. Youβre certainly not doing much to look like youβre the one in the right here with your βcleverβ rebuttals. Dronebogus (talk) 12:55, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- But are you sure he never edited? No one knows who he really was. Maybe he's editing Wikipedia as we speak. Bkatcher (talk) 13:54, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Yes and why donβt we leave Mr. Cooper alone and continue speaking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#System-gaming_WP:HOUNDING_and_personal_attacks_from_user_who_claimed_he_was_stopping Dronebogus (talk) 14:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- But are you sure he never edited? No one knows who he really was. Maybe he's editing Wikipedia as we speak. Bkatcher (talk) 13:54, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Who was talking about you, Dronebogus? I was referring to notorious 1970s Skyjacker D.B. Cooper. Paranoid much? I'm not the one lurking around other people's user pages to see if my initials happen to show up. Bkatcher (talk) 12:47, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Chicdat @Bkatcher Iβll try to stop βbludgeoningβ if you two (particularly you, bkatcher) will try to stop complaining about me behind my back. Iβd rather not go to ANI and just repeat that Iβll stop bludgeoning again largely because you appear want to see me get me kicked out for getting on your nerves. Dronebogus (talk) 10:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Death of Gustav Gerneth
His actual date of death is 21 October. Please stop reverting my edits. There are some sources published immediately after his death that say 22 October (rather in the night of 22 October), but they are not as reliable as his official obituary. Thus, I withdraw and apologize for my assertion that you have made an unsourced assertion. His 115th birthday report after his death also states 21 October ["Wenige Tage nach seinem Geburtstag verstarb er am 21. Oktober" A few days after his birthday, he died on 21 October]. Volksstimme (Saxony-Anhalt) is considered a WP:RS, and on the German Wikipedia, there's a clear consensus that his date of death is 21 October [2]. If my arguments are still unpersuasive to you, please find me a reliable source published after his funeral that states 22 October. Renewal6 (talk) 13:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Renewal6: I apologize for just blindly reverting. But if you looked at the sources cited in the Gerneth entry at the List of the verified oldest people, you'll see that they do cite 22 October. Furthermore, your sources are also correct. Why? Because of the often-confusing time-zone policies. In Britain, where UTC time is located, it was 21 October. However, Germany has a different time zone, and there it was 22 October. (There was also confusion regarding the death-date of Jiroemon Kimura, with some sources reporting 11 June, others reporting 12 June.) Since Wikipedia uses homeland times for its longevity lists, Gustav Gerneth died on 22 October 2019. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:08, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- You're wrong. ["Gustav Gerneth died peacefully on Monday night" Monday = 21 October] ["ist in der Nacht zu Dienstag" i. e. the night before Tuesday(22 October)] The sources in the article don't state 22 October, that is why I did not change them. Your second argument is not convincing. Why should a German local newspaper and his own obituary refer to British UTC time? Renewal6 (talk) 10:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Renewal6:
You're wrong
. That's a personal attack. Besides, I stand by what I said before: If you want to challenge 2-year-old consensus, take it to the talk page. Start a discussion on WT:LONGEVITY. My talk page isn't a place to change things. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:43, 26 October 2021 (UTC)- Disagreeing is a personal attack? Obviously not. You were the one who repeatedly reverted my edits by assuming that his own official obituary is wrong. Thus, your talk page is the proper place to discuss this topic, and you can not simply ignore my two arguments.
- Where is the archived discussion on this topic? I wasn't able to find this consensus. Renewal6 (talk) 11:04, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Seek in the revision history of List of the verified oldest people. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:12, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- [One edit by one editor is neither a discussion nor a consensus] Renewal6 (talk) 11:27, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- The editor in question is the authority of longevity. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:29, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- [One edit by one editor is neither a discussion nor a consensus] Renewal6 (talk) 11:27, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Seek in the revision history of List of the verified oldest people. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:12, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- There is no such thing as an "authority on longevity" in Wikipedia, and even if there were it would not be TFBCT1. I'm not going to waste too much more time on this, but if the edit-warring continues I will have all the relevant articles fully protected until this dispute is properly resolved. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 04:25, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Renewal6:
@TFBCT1: There's a discussion that concerns you going on. Would you please share your opinion? Renewal6 (talk) 11:39, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Look at the hours of the user's editing. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:41, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Probably not the best place for this discussion. Based on other cases: Swedish Astrid Zachrison, and French Mathilde Lartigue who died on their respective 113th birthdays, the terminology βovernightβ was used and the following day represented date of death. So based on precedent my opinion falls on October 22 being Gustav Gernethβs date of deathTFBCT1 (talk) 13:59, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- @TFBCT1: But in which way does your opinion outweigh the evidence of his official obituary? I found another reliable source that states 21 October (his 115th birthday report, see above), and the sources included in the article do not state that his date of death is 22 October (I'm fluent in German, so I'm able to assess that). This is why I would like to restore my edits. Do you have any objections? Renewal6 (talk) 15:34, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- I never said my opinion outweighs anything. My opinion is based on consensus and precedent, if you want to challenge consensus take the issue to a longevity talk page as advised above. Further note, if your sources state Gerneth died at age 115, they would be unreliable. It is well established that he died at the age of 114 years, 1 week. Iβm done with this issue here.TFBCT1 (talk) 17:46, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- @TFBCT1: My source doesn't state that, it was published after his death as a commemoration. If you want to challenge the evidence of his official obituary, you are the one who is obliged to take it to a longevity talk page, not me. Thus, I will restore my edits and hopefully none of you will engage in a pointless edit war (I'm ready to discuss this further on another place, if necessary). Best wishes, Renewal6 (talk) 21:32, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- I never said my opinion outweighs anything. My opinion is based on consensus and precedent, if you want to challenge consensus take the issue to a longevity talk page as advised above. Further note, if your sources state Gerneth died at age 115, they would be unreliable. It is well established that he died at the age of 114 years, 1 week. Iβm done with this issue here.TFBCT1 (talk) 17:46, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- @TFBCT1: But in which way does your opinion outweigh the evidence of his official obituary? I found another reliable source that states 21 October (his 115th birthday report, see above), and the sources included in the article do not state that his date of death is 22 October (I'm fluent in German, so I'm able to assess that). This is why I would like to restore my edits. Do you have any objections? Renewal6 (talk) 15:34, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Probably not the best place for this discussion. Based on other cases: Swedish Astrid Zachrison, and French Mathilde Lartigue who died on their respective 113th birthdays, the terminology βovernightβ was used and the following day represented date of death. So based on precedent my opinion falls on October 22 being Gustav Gernethβs date of deathTFBCT1 (talk) 13:59, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
Disruptive editing
Stop your disruptive editing (in your own words "just blindly reverting"). If it happens again, I will take it to the admins noticeboard. Renewal6 (talk) 22:03, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- My editing is not disruptive in the slightest. I'm just following WP:BRD. If you want me to stop reverting, take it to a place where regular longevity editors will determine whether there is consensus for this change or not. In the meantime, I'll revert your edit at list of the oldest people by country. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:04, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher), Chicdat and Renewal6: You are both edit warring on multiple pages simultaneously: [1][2][3][4]. This is my only warning; please take this dispute to the relevant talk page(s) β if you continue reverting, you may be sanctioned. --Blablubbs (talk) 13:03, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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In my opinion, he needs to be nominated for AFD. If you get time and you agree, maybe you could work your usual magic! Regards, MattSucci (talk) 17:16, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, of course. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:01, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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I formally agree to a voluntary restriction. I will treat this like an involuntary editing restriction, and administrators may treat this the same way. The details are:
- I can edit freely in certain areas. They include
- Everything in mainspace and talkspace
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- Everything in XfD
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- Involve myself with blocks or unblocks, except my own
- Interact with Kashmorwiki until he/she is unblocked
- Edit in any way an admin noticeboard, except in discussions concerning me and to appeal this ban
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If I violate these conditions once, I will be given a final/only warning. Twice, and please block me. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:13, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Another thing
I take full responsibility of any article created by Kashmorwiki. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:16, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- ? ? ? ? CommanderWaterford (talk) 22:38, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat means that he doesn't want any of them to be speedy deleted under G5 I believe. Jackattack1597 (talk) 23:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- As your mentor I'll watch over you in regards to your restrictions. To admins: I don't think Chicdat should not be indefinitely blocked in all areas of Wikipedia when he's violating these conditions multiple times. I'll prefer a temporary partial block (on Wikipedia: space in particular), but if these things build up, eventual indefinite partial block. (Reason why I said this is because this is how topic bans normally work) BTW, here's your adopt page to continue your lessons, and please read policies and guidelines to help answering these questions. MarioJump83! 07:35, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Apparently what you are doing here is WP:HOUNDING which is a form of harassment against a user, by checking his contributions and spuriously taking responsibility of the articles that cannot be checked at least not under a minute the way you are doing.[5][6]
WP:PROXYING says: "Wikipedians in turn are not permitted to post or edit material at the direction of a banned or blocked editor (sometimes called proxy editing or proxying) unless they are able to show that the changes are either verifiable or productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits. "
Where are your independent reasons other than to "I want to preserve creations of Kashmorwiki"? That's not a valid reason but violation of WP:PROXYING.
Since a number of users have already raised concern over your spurious attempts to take responsibility, I am going to give you an opportunity to self-revert yourself on these all articles that weren't edited by you before they were tagged for deletion. Failing this, I will need to report you to WP:AN. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 08:25, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat, I understand that you don't want Kashmorwiki's articles to be deleted, but you are not in a position to be saving his articles right now due to the scrutiny of your actions to do with Kashmorwiki; and it would probably be a good idea for you to stop taking responsibility for his articles .Jackattack1597 (talk) 11:10, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- I may agree with Abhishek and Jackattack here. Given you are scrutinized over your actions with Kashmor you shouldn't take responsibility over these articles. I recommend that you have to self-revert these edits: Special:Diff/1021727837, Special:Diff/1021727467, Special:Diff/1021727330 and Special:Diff/1021727380. MarioJump83! 12:59, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Since you didn't get active during May 7 I have reverted your edits, please see Special:Diff/1021727380 and Special:Diff/1021727467 for the reason. MarioJump83! 03:54, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- I just realized this violates the "Kashmorwiki interaction" part of my ban. Thank you for realizing first, and sorry that I couldn't be active during May 7. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:13, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Since you didn't get active during May 7 I have reverted your edits, please see Special:Diff/1021727380 and Special:Diff/1021727467 for the reason. MarioJump83! 03:54, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Modification
I expand this ban to closing any discussion, except when withdrawing a discussion that I nominated, that had significant opposition. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 09:59, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- I have clarified that I can edit in any area relating to my pending changes reviewer rights. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Notice of Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Chicdat continues his disruptive editing. Thank you. Renewal6 (talk) 14:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
"Not a list"
I'm very confused as to your edits such as this. How is it not a list?
Also, not sure as to what the point is of having these separate from List of historical tropical cyclone names, which seems to cover the same topic in a much more convenient form (I don't see why grouping by the first letter of the storm name is going to be something that would interest our readers). Elli (talk | contribs) 01:11, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Elli: It is not a list, it is a set index article (see WP:SIA). π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:00, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Set index articles are list articles, though. Elli (talk | contribs) 12:44, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oh. You're welcome to re-add "list" to it. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:44, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Set index articles are list articles, though. Elli (talk | contribs) 12:44, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
December 2021
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. Thryduulf (talk) 13:21, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- I've just noticed you were not notified of the ANI discussion where the reverts you and DSMN-ISHAGT made, and adjacent items including your block, are being discussed. You can find the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#βDSMN-IHSAGT. Any relevant comments you make here will be copied there if you ask. Thryduulf (talk) 18:05, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
@Thryduulf: I do have a comment to make, even though the block has already expired. It is as follows: (I am using the TQ template for this, to emphasise what I am saying.) My approx. 40 reverts were certainly inappropriate, however I was making them for several reasons, which are; I believed that reverting clear and obvious ban evasion (which DSMN-ISHAGT was doing) was exempt from 3RR, I could not make a comment at the user's thread at ANI because of my ban and what I wanted to do did not fall under BANEX (for this reason I sent messages to some admins); also, by the time you made the block, I had already logged off, not that that would make the block unjustified. Lastly I would like to apologise for violating WP:EW fifteen times over, and I fully deserved that block.
π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:08, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: Also add: WP:NOT3RR says explicitly
3. Reverting actions performed by banned users in violation of a ban, and sockpuppets or meatpuppets of banned or blocked users.
Therefore the block was against policy. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:17, 9 December 2021 (UTC)- Reporting vandalism at WP:AIV would definitely have been allowable per WP:BANEX, and you should (as I think you realise above) have stopped reverting when it was clear it wasn't working (it takes two to tango after all). The block (of both of you) was made to prevent what looked like ongoing active edit warring before investigating (as I noted in the ANI thread I was not familiar with this LTA and so your message on my talkpage was somewhat cryptic) and so was within policy. Had you responded with a message like the one you just left before the block expired I would have unblocked you (and I noted at ANI I'd have been happy with someone else doing it if I wasn't around at the time). Thryduulf (talk) 11:39, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you - I understand. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:40, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- I had a quick look into the block the other day and felt that it was well deserved as you should have sought support from the appropriate noticeboards rather than reverting the person 40 odd times in less than an hour even if they were a sockpuppet, banned user etc. I would also love to know what evidence you had for your assertion that the user was a sockpuppet, banned user etc as I am getting fed up of users acting on their gut about these things. I would also suggest that if you want to remain on Wikipedia, Chicdat, that you find a decent project to work through rather than trying causing drama by reverting users edits.Jason Rees (talk) 11:47, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Jason Rees: My evidence for sockpuppetry? WP:LTA/BKFIP and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#DSMN-IHSAGT, a discussion that was open even before I began reverting. And the block's expired, so it's pretty much a closed matter. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:51, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Reporting vandalism at WP:AIV would definitely have been allowable per WP:BANEX, and you should (as I think you realise above) have stopped reverting when it was clear it wasn't working (it takes two to tango after all). The block (of both of you) was made to prevent what looked like ongoing active edit warring before investigating (as I noted in the ANI thread I was not familiar with this LTA and so your message on my talkpage was somewhat cryptic) and so was within policy. Had you responded with a message like the one you just left before the block expired I would have unblocked you (and I noted at ANI I'd have been happy with someone else doing it if I wasn't around at the time). Thryduulf (talk) 11:39, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Goni is now the most intense storm in 2020
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi! can you edit all the Pages or Articles where Cyclone Yasa is still leading in 2020 which is the strongest because Typhoon Goni is stronger and FMS has weakened Cyclone Yasa so Goni is the Strongest. Daniel boxs (talk) 00:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Daniel boxs, you told me which pages you wanted edited, I checked them out and told you no new edits needed to be done. Please stop posting the same message to other editors. Elijahandskip (talk) 01:05, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Three-revert rule
Template:Three-revert rule has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. β Jonesey95 (talk) 18:13, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: Sorry, I can't. I'm banned, as you can see above, from the Wikipedia: namespace. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting. Thanks for letting me know. If you have a substantive, policy- or guideline-based comment about this template, or if you wish to request its deletion before the TFD closes, please ping me from here. β Jonesey95 (talk) 14:22, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95:
or if you wish to request its deletion before the TFD closes
Yes, please. I'm not even sure why I created that template. π Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:56, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95:
- Interesting. Thanks for letting me know. If you have a substantive, policy- or guideline-based comment about this template, or if you wish to request its deletion before the TFD closes, please ping me from here. β Jonesey95 (talk) 14:22, 10 December 2021 (UTC)