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Los Justicieros

  • Source: Paz, Abel (2006) [1996]. Durruti in the Spanish Revolution. Translated by Morse, Chuck. Edinburgh: AK Press. p. 22. ISBN 1-904859-50-X. LCCN 2006920974. OCLC 482919277.
Improved to Good Article status by Grnrchst (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 46 past nominations.

Grnrchst (talk) 16:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC).

  • Concern (not a full review): While referring to "Los Justicieros" as "The Avengers" (i.e., the comic book superheroes, The Avengers) is fun (and quite hooky) for April Fool's Day, it is misleading for any other day. Indeed, there are no sources referring to "The Justicieros" as "The Avengers", and Google translates "justicieros" as "vigilantes" and not "avengers". Further, "avengers" is translated as "vengadores", not "justicieros". Cbl62 (talk) 14:45, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Also, since Los Justicieros dissovled as a group in the early 1920s, the "alt 1" hook should refer to "former members". Cbl62 (talk) 14:58, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
  • @Cbl62: It is not true that no sources [refer] to "The Justicieros" as "The Avengers". Varela 2019 specifically translates it to "The Avengers"; Umoja 2015 translates it to "The Avenging Ones". I'm a Spanish speaker and can confirm (better than a bad machine translation anyway) that "Avengers" is an acceptable translation for "Justicieros"; the word "justiciero" is often used as an adjective to mean "avenging". "Justiceros" can indeed be translated as "vigilantes", although "vigilante" is already a word in Spanish, so the common translation for "vigilante" is just "vigilante". I don't think we should be ignoring how sources translate the name because a robot says something else. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:04, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: For the record, I'm not opposed to posting it at a different time using their original Spanish name. I just thought using the (yes, sourced) translation for a 1 April hook would be fun. I have also amended ALT1 per the suggestion. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:15, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
I have checked several dictionaries and while they generally translate "avengers" as "vengadores", I did find one (here) that translates "justiciero" as "avenger". Accordingly, I withdraw part of my comments above and believe this could be a very effective April Fool's Day hook. Cbl62 (talk) 12:12, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Hooks approved for April Fool's Day only. Newness requirement satisfied by recent GA promotion. Article is long enough and well written/sourced. Earwig detected no issues. Hooks are all very hooky and short enough but suitable only for April Fool's Day for reasons discussed above. Sourcing is largely offline so AGF toward an established editor. QPQ requirement is satisfied. Cbl62 (talk) 22:37, 2 December 2024 (UTC)