Does the lead with the phrase "Waterboarding is a form of torture" follow Wikipedia's neutrality guidelines?
Isn't the current debate enough to call the status into question?
I still do not agree that this article's lead is neutral—how can I change it?
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MythBusters Waterboarding Demonstration
editI was surprised I didn't see a mention of the MythBusters Water Torture episode under demonstrations. For those who don't know which episode I'm talking about, here's a link to the section on youtube: <- Link redacted ->
While it doesn't involve a mask or face covering, it's still pretty similar. Would it make sense to add it to the article under that header? 2601:1C0:8500:1161:E802:4299:719A:734A (talk) 2601:1C0:8500:1161:E802:4299:719A:734A (talk) 06:06, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- I have had to redact the Youtube link you provided, as the video appears not to have been uploaded by the copyright owner. We do not permit links to copyright violations.
- As for anything Mythbusters did on the subject of waterboarding, it is unlikely to be seen as a reliable source for anything of significance. We have credible scholarly and media sources discussing the topic, and we don't need to resort to content made for entertainment. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:13, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
"Dry drowning" should be edited out
edit"Dry drowning" is a discredited term and should not be used in this page. Its wiki article says this when you click on it. I apologize if I'm writing this post incorrectly- I made this account recently. Thank you! Treepersonified (talk) 10:05, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- I was wondering the same. One of the articles is clearly wrong. 2800:300:6291:7F50:0:0:0:2 (talk) 07:18, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Edit needed
editIf you read the sources quoted in footnote 119 and 120 it states that the supervising soldier was courtmartialled. But the article describes 2 US soldiers involved as shown on the picture of the event as well. I found that confusing so I propose to add the word “supervising” to “soldier”, at the place where it reads that he was punished. 2A02:A467:9E7C:1:9DF5:A18C:C999:F444 (talk) 13:58, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
Citation needed
editThe section on Christopher Hitchens states:
Hitchens, who had previously expressed skepticism over waterboarding being considered a form of torture, changed his mind.
This statement, if true, merits a citation. I have read the Vanity Fair article of his personal experience with waterboarding, and at no point in the article does he express this skepticism. He does, however, accurately describe the beliefs of others that do not believe waterboarding to be torture. Trammell (talk) 14:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
US perspective
editI don't really think this article deserves the "US perspective" tag. Most current news and examples are American simply because they exist. If other countries currently engage in the practice they're clearly more secretive about it. Historically, in this article, there are plenty of non-US examples. --24.80.199.58 (talk) 00:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)