Talk:China–United States trade war
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"Trade War with China" listed at Redirects for discussion
editThe redirect Trade War with China has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 7 § Trade War with China until a consensus is reached. Silcox (talk) 06:42, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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A further voice on infobox
edit@Remsense and @Mx. Granger are correct on this. Please do not re add the junk infobox. Referring to other articles which are doing things badly is not persuasive, it just suggests those pages should be fixed. JArthur1984 (talk) 12:14, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 5 February 2025
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China–United States trade war → United States trade war with China – I propose this move for two reasons. One because the new page name would be consistent with the way that America/Donald Trump's concurrent trade war with Canada and Mexico has been written (2025 United States trade war with Canada and Mexico). Two because it would reflect the historical record that it was the United States which started the trade war with China and not the other way around. The current page name not only doesn't make that clear, it gives the impression that the US and China shared responsibility for starting the war or that China was even responsible for starting it. Nghtcmdr (talk) 21:31, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest you close this, since the clear difference is that the other article is about a 1-on-2 relationship. It's also just not the case that the title "suggests blame". Remsense ‥ 论 21:33, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- But even if the other articles were dealing with a 1-on-1 relationship, why couldn't we name them "U.S. trade war with Canada" or "U.S. trade war with Mexico"? Maybe you think they would come off as too wordy but I'd argue the names would compensate for that with the clarity and accuracy they bring. My issue with the current page name is that it appears to distort the record, not because it incorrectly assign blame. It's a factual and not a moral point I'm making. You appear to be making the assumption that the country which started the trade war is bad since it's bad to start trade wars but that supports an argument which is different from the one I am making which hinges on deciding how the trade war began. Nghtcmdr (talk) 01:57, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. The current title refrains from assigning blame; instead, it lists the two relevant countries in alphabetical order. The title doesn't need to try to indicate which country's government started the trade war. The title should just identify the topic, and detailed information should go in the article itself. It's hard for me to see what would be gained from the proposed title. As Remsense points out above, there are other considerations at play in the Canada/Mexico/US article. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 04:03, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. Mellk (talk) 16:48, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Unnecessary change that would violate WP:NPOV. KyleSirTalksAlot (talk) 16:50, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose EarthDude (talk) 16:39, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose – per Mx. Granger’s reasoning. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 03:58, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Specifically because of how the new title would run afoul with NPOV. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 03:59, 9 February 2025 (UTC)